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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasHawk View Post
    Part of your diatribe above is the precise reason why I never NEED to buy cards right when a product comes out.
    You risk losing out on all the 1/1's if you follow that though. Which is really all I can go after. Tired of paying $80 for a card that will be going for $30-$40 later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by predatorkj View Post
    You risk losing out on all the 1/1's if you follow that though. Which is really all I can go after. Tired of paying $80 for a card that will be going for $30-$40 later.
    That's why I bite the bullet sometimes. U might over pay for something but if you never see it again you'll be kicking yourself later

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnthonyCorona View Post
    That's why I bite the bullet sometimes. U might over pay for something but if you never see it again you'll be kicking yourself later

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    I started collecting Alex Gordon this year and can't believe how overproduced his auto was his rookie year. I've collected Jermaine Dye for years and he only has 212 total autographed card variations across his whole career. Alex Gordon had 250+ autographs variations in his rookie year of 2007 ALONE! It's hard to quantify if Alex's autograph would've held more than a $10-20 value over his career if not for the overproduction of it his first year on the card market.

    Not to mention how Panini has single-handedly ruined football jersey cards for me. Alex Gordon has 459 jersey cards over his career and most of them are actual game-used authentic pieces. Ameer Abdullah has had 1000+ jersey cards made of him in two years and not a single one is from an actual NFL game. Every single stupid piece is from a player/event/"worn" size 60+ oversized jersey that someone had him touch in an office one time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DyeHardFan View Post
    I started collecting Alex Gordon this year and can't believe how overproduced his auto was his rookie year. I've collected Jermaine Dye for years and he only has 212 total autographed card variations across his whole career. Alex Gordon had 250+ autographs variations in his rookie year of 2007 ALONE! It's hard to quantify if Alex's autograph would've held more than a $10-20 value over his career if not for the overproduction of it his first year on the card market.

    Not to mention how Panini has single-handedly ruined football jersey cards for me. Alex Gordon has 459 jersey cards over his career and most of them are actual game-used authentic pieces. Ameer Abdullah has had 1000+ jersey cards made of him in two years and not a single one is from an actual NFL game. Every single stupid piece is from a player/event/"worn" size 60+ oversized jersey that someone had him touch in an office one time.
    Ok, one thing you need to double check is the "game used" aspect of cards these days. Panini really is a good company in my opinion because they are at least letting you know things are event worn verses game used. Plus their football patch/jersey cards are showing some actual use. Don't recall very many if any older topps/upper deck/donruss gu cards showing much use. Prime Patches had some nice cards showing actual use(hat bands especially). But for the most part, you get plain(or in some cases really sick looking) jersey/patch pieces that are nice and clean. Which to me is odd. Take Craig Biggio for example. Has there ever been a game where he wasn't dirty after the 1st inning? Same thing can be said of Jose Altuve or Dustin Pedroia. Yet we have a whole slew of clean "GU" cards. Weird.

    So I feel a lot of the baseball jersey/patch cards are either player issued or event worn. The good thing? Panini will mention this on the back so even though it's not game used, you'll know it going in. Which is why when I'm buying a card with a jersey piece or patch on it, if the seller won't scan the back, I just skip to the next one because I want to know what I'm buying. With topps though, they got really vague for a while and have now only even started trying to mimic Panini in this regard. And then they(topps) got sneakier with the generic "the enclosed relic piece in this card is not from any specific game, event, or season.". Which tells me nothing but leads me to believe the card is just event worn. Maybe it's not but when you have some cards that specify a card is game used, some that say it's event worn, and then the generic line above, what am I supposed to think? So I give kudos to Panini and will continue to buy their product in both wax form and on the secondary market.

    The reason you're bummed out about Abdullah, I understand. But it is not a new fad. SP RPA(rookie pacth autos) were the biggest cards around for a while and none of them were gu but went for a small fortune depending on the players. Eye appeal and the auto were the selling points. Now it's Immaculate RPA's. Pretty much any new rookie in the NFL will not have any actual game used material to be used for the first two to three years of their career. I think Panini gets them but does not use them until they start to dwindle the supply of the rookie premier stuff. That's why what I spend on rookie cards with patch pieces is minimal. I want the rookie auto but the material is worthless to me.

    As for Gordon having a ton of rookie autos, this has been going on for quite a while. Rookies are cheap in comparison to a vet, autograph wise, so they probably get a slew of stuff signed for cheap and just use the heck out of it. And they figure if somebody takes off and is having a good rookie season or is highly touted during/post draft day(Strasburg/Harper/Bryant), it'll help wax sell. Some of these sets have gotten better about including vet autos but you have to research the product and know what leans more heavily towards rookie autos and what has more vet stuff in it if that's what you're after. But what you describe with the overload of rookie autos will probably not change. Cheap way to fill up product.
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    The "not from any specific game/event" verbiage on Topps cards is simply to prevent any confusion that the relic is intended to be the one shown in the picture on the card, or any event mentioned on the card. That is, if it's, say, a "500 Home Run Club" set and there's a piece of bat on it, they're not intending anyone to infer that it's the bat used to hit the 500th homer. And people make those sorts of inferences all the time.

    I'd have to quibble and say Panini didn't ruin the GU market. It was ruined years ago by all makers. The definition of an "official major league game" is also fairly elastic, apparently including spring training and other exhibitions, old-timers games, and ceremonial events. They shouldn't make cards like this without clearly stating exactly what they are, but it's also a bit of caveat emptor. If someone is selling "game-worn" rookie cards and the season hasn't started yet, they couldn't really be game-worn, could they?
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