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    Quote Originally Posted by BBCgalaxee View Post
    It has to be a promo I'd say because I can't recall a single corrected error from any boxed traded set by any company.
    I was thinking promo too. Someone would have caught spelling errors on a Griffey rookie decades ago.

    Jacksoncoupage, is the card missing the copyright line like the regular '89 Score promos?

    And the only boxed set (not traded/update) error that was corrected that I can think of was the 1987 Donruss Opening Day Barry Bonds with Johnny Ray's picture on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    I was thinking promo too. Someone would have caught spelling errors on a Griffey rookie decades ago.

    Jacksoncoupage, is the card missing the copyright line like the regular '89 Score promos?
    The name on back has slight difference in letter size/shape, his position and uniform number are aligned unlike the askew regular issue, the bio data says "Bat" instead of Bats, the quotation marks are different in the text. Other telltale promo signs are normal: no photo cropping variances, stock felt the same, copyright is present.

    I will scan and post the two when I'm home this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBCgalaxee View Post
    It has to be a promo I'd say because I can't recall a single corrected error from any boxed traded set by any company.

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    They typically weren't fixed in box sets but there are a few examples: 1989 Fleer Update has variations, 1982 Topps Traded (but also issued in packs?), 86 Fleer Minis.

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    Being there are 4+ variants(even if hard to tell) on the card, it's hard to think 27 years later on a KG it wouldn't be known. However even if they were counterfiet, I wouldn't think they were just created recently. So regardless if legit or fake, the fact no info exists is odd. With the amount graded I would think it would have been caught by now regardless if it was legit or not.

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    There is a copy on COMC (four total now). Off cut but you can see the card in question there (last listed copy for $6.64)

    https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/1..._Jr/1948939,p3

    EDIT: I mistakenly described the common version as having his position and uniform number misaligned, it is the "mystery" version that shows the two askew.

    EDIT 2: Looking at the example on COMC, some other differences pop out: there is very fine text above and below the MLBPA logo on this variant version and worth noting that this additional text appears around the MLBPA logos on the backs of 1990 Score cards; stats are misaligned (see SB for example); card background color is completely different type of green; the MLB and MLBPA logos have white in them instead of being the background bluish-green color like the regular version is.
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    Here are the 2 backs
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    Quote Originally Posted by goobmcnasty View Post
    Here are the 2 backs
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    Awesome, thank you!
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    Someone drank the kool-aid... the "error/promo" is no longer available on comc LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by goobmcnasty View Post
    Someone drank the kool-aid... the "error/promo" is no longer available on comc LOL
    You mean "error/promo/counterfeit." There's no question that the card is a variation/error simply by the "Bat/Bats" thing, the question is whether it was produced by Score or another person/company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage View Post
    You mean "error/promo/counterfeit." There's no question that the card is a variation/error simply by the "Bat/Bats" thing, the question is whether it was produced by Score or another person/company.
    Have you held both versions in person.? On normal fakes, the logos or trademark isn't as clear to the naked eye. First thing that comes to mind is the fake Fleer Jordan rookies from 1986-1987. Have you looked to see if the MLB Logo or Score logo is crystal clear compared to the non variation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage View Post
    I'm looking for information regarding a significant variation on Griffey's 1989 Score R/T card.

    Any Griffey collectors aware of this?

    Any promo collectors or longtime dealer/hobbyists recall or have info on a preview/promo for the 1989 Rookie & Traded set? Are there other players in the set?

    Thanks in advance for any info/comments.
    I have been collecting promos for awhile and did not know about the 1989 Score R/T promos.
    My main collecting interest is MLB and MLBPA approved Frank Thomas promos, previews, samples, prototypes etc ... raw and PSA. Check out my web site at www.FrankThomasPromos.com. I am also an avid collector of baseball promo sets. I have many different player promo cards for trade. If interested message or email me at gitalian1997@bellsouth.net. And the hunt continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkfan View Post
    Have you held both versions in person.? On normal fakes, the logos or trademark isn't as clear to the naked eye. First thing that comes to mind is the fake Fleer Jordan rookies from 1986-1987. Have you looked to see if the MLB Logo or Score logo is crystal clear compared to the non variation?
    I did but they are at my apt (not there until saturday) and I didn't catch the logo issues until today. I remember the stock and gloss feeling the same. I think it is very odd for a reprint to add fine print/text to those logos however, the 1990 Score cards all have the fine print on them so who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gofrankgo View Post
    I have been collecting promos for awhile and did not know about the 1989 Score R/T promos.
    Well the jury is still out, this could very well be a fake/reprint. As odd as it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksoncoupage View Post
    Well the jury is still out, this could very well be a fake/reprint. As odd as it seems.
    Thank you for the update. Will be on the lookout for any. Was Griffey the only player in "the set"?
    My main collecting interest is MLB and MLBPA approved Frank Thomas promos, previews, samples, prototypes etc ... raw and PSA. Check out my web site at www.FrankThomasPromos.com. I am also an avid collector of baseball promo sets. I have many different player promo cards for trade. If interested message or email me at gitalian1997@bellsouth.net. And the hunt continues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gofrankgo View Post
    Thank you for the update. Will be on the lookout for any. Was Griffey the only player in "the set"?
    I have no idea. So far, only player I have seen but I only own Griffey, Vizquel, Ryan and Belle copies from this set. I did a brief look through several stars on COMC and did not anything like this.

    The Griffey came to my attention as I was gathering color variations of those guys (common has purplish-blue print, less-common has stark blue print) and noticed the differences.
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