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    Quote Originally Posted by forgerelli View Post
    The mouth breathers are coming out of the woodwork today. More FAKE from seller angelalu88. Looks like the same signer as speedaudio.

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    This seller has more fake stuff than real.

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/angelalu88/..._sop=12&_rdc=1
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    Someone should tell this dipsh!t that putting a fake auto with "real" dirt doesn't make the auto real. Sold by stubssports

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    Can you walk us through the hallmarks of a real Rivera autograph?


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    I have no idea if it was the same seller, but a while back I ended up buying some Pacific plates from the early 90s. After I got a few, they just looked off. I didn't have a lot into them and stayed away from future offerings just to be safe.

    On a couple, the entire card image was not on the plate, like it was misaligned slightly. It is possible they could have been real though. They could have been something Pacific sold off at some point (I remember them having a pretty big retail store closing sale in the late 90s/early 00s that I discovered at the very end) or maybe after they were acquired, maybe some of the assets were sold. I am pretty certain that prior to the first pack issued plates by Pinnacle in the late 90s, no card plates were circulating. It really makes you wonder.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeliciousBacon View Post
    Every single card cardmax1 sells:

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/cardmax1/m....p2047675.l2562

    All fake plates. The giveaway on many of them is how many of his "plates" have parts that were only done as foil stamping. Plus, plates from the 80's? No, not so much.

    Also, I couldn't find it, but there was a blatant fake patch on COMC for quite a while. I thought it was a Rolen/Pujols, but I don't remember enough details to find it anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
    Can you walk us through the hallmarks of a real Rivera autograph?


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    The first thing I'd point out is that the modern Mariano auto is usually meticulous, and REALLY nice looking. It's usually rated as one of, if not the best modern signature out there. Here's one of my favorites, mostly because I got it for $25. He did these at some trade show.

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    I'll see some here and there that look rushed, probably from people hounding him at dinner or maybe a TTM, but the "M" & "R" are always spot on.

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    When you look at the fakes the "M" & "R" are always off. If they're close you will see starts and stops in the ink and/or shakiness from someone trying to copy or trace his signature. Look through the fakes I posted at the "M" & "R", none of them are even close.

    Once in a while one of these losers will try to get cute and try to fake an earlier signature, but those are more rare so I'll do that another time.

    If anyone is ever looking to buy a Mo auto, please ask me first, I'll gladly give an opinion for free.

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    Another crap Mo auto from crap human being pingplayer1

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    2 more to add today. Both are from speedaudio. He sold all 3 of his other fakes, so why not make more?

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    If anyone reads this stuff please report this trash. Here are the links:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/MARIANO-RIV...EAAOSwIJlaIWcM

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/MARIANO-RIVERA-YANKEES-SIGNED-OFFICIAL-MAJOR-LEAGUE-BASEBALL/122838533068?hash=item1c99bf43cc:gkwAAOSwnCFaIW-~

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    This guy's not even trying. Has 10K autos listed, I'm guessing they're all fakes. P.O.S. legendsandmoreinc2

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    Some more fake garbage from "winners at life"...

    Seller jskaner9 gives us this piece of garbage:

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    And seller walmartsucks2 shows how smart he is by selling this crap with an ACE cert:

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    I hope they both catch herpes. On their faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forgerelli View Post
    The first thing I'd point out is that the modern Mariano auto is usually meticulous, and REALLY nice looking. It's usually rated as one of, if not the best modern signature out there. Here's one of my favorites, mostly because I got it for $25. He did these at some trade show.

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    I'll see some here and there that look rushed, probably from people hounding him at dinner or maybe a TTM, but the "M" & "R" are always spot on.

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    When you look at the fakes the "M" & "R" are always off. If they're close you will see starts and stops in the ink and/or shakiness from someone trying to copy or trace his signature. Look through the fakes I posted at the "M" & "R", none of them are even close.

    Once in a while one of these losers will try to get cute and try to fake an earlier signature, but those are more rare so I'll do that another time.

    If anyone is ever looking to buy a Mo auto, please ask me first, I'll gladly give an opinion for free.

    Scott F
    your so right, i watched him sign this, took his time and it shows.


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    I don't get a good feeling from these:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-WILL-CLAR...MAAOSw7ZlZmM2Z

    Or this:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/WILL-CLARK-....c100005.m1851

    They may be actual Fleer bankruptcy plates but the fact that foil-stamped design elements are visible on these plates gives me grave doubts.
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    Some more to add:

    Someone should tell moron seller treasurehunter2005 to at least change up the pen when signing 16 fake autographs:

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    Seller mtmjgm1193 sold this one, so he's committed fraud/theft.

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    I sent a message to this scumbag, for some reason they didn't reply: shipdiner3 has got multiple fakes listed.

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    Another coward/scumbag: pmeyer171123

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    This low end of the bell curve example said they "didn't appreciate" my "Fake." message because they got it from a "prominent dealer" that they wouldn't name, and it came with a "letter of authenticity" that they didn't show. So it has to be real. Right? Right!

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    To any of the sellers I've mentioned: you've been told you're selling fakes, if you haven't removed the listing you're a scumbag/criminal that steals from children, because let's be honest, only the stupid or uneducated children would buy your garbage. Please punch yourself in the face. Repeatedly.

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    Another person the world would be better off without:

    Seller: bouds106, their fake garbage:

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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-FLEER-...MAAOSwls5Y6rsw

    I'm sure the Rolen patch is real, maybe the Renteria, but I'm calling BS on the Pujols.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliciousBacon View Post
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-FLEER-...MAAOSwls5Y6rsw

    I'm sure the Rolen patch is real, maybe the Renteria, but I'm calling BS on the Pujols.
    Anytime I see the word sick in a title, Im out.

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