Uh-Oh....Are These Real???

Guest · Apr 5, 2009

both auctions have a Flacco SP Authentic patch autos....the patches are pieces of the logo....both auctions have identical cards pictured....different serials....the logos are almost exactly the same:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0386630348

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0334841971

vaughn · Apr 5, 2009

there is absolutely no reason for a seller to EVER make his auction a "private listing" on a sports card. period.

The first one is definately fake, the second one is iffy but has way more of a chance to be real IMO.

Guest · Apr 5, 2009

vaughn said:
there is absolutely no reason for a seller to EVER make his auction a "private listing" on a sports card. period.

The first one is definately fake, the second one is iffy but has way more of a chance to be real IMO.

not unless he want to hide a shill bidding account :evil: I really hate patch fakers and shill bidders.....don't know why people have to ruin the hobby!

G $MONEY$ · Apr 5, 2009

vaughn said:
there is absolutely no reason for a seller to EVER make his auction a "private listing" on a sports card. period.

The first one is definately fake, the second one is iffy but has way more of a chance to be real IMO.

Hi Vaughn

This is exactly what i thought when i looked at the two auctions. Guess what? Even if the card in auction #1 is real, im not buying and im gonna think its fake, just for having the private bidder/buyer BS. The second one might be real, as might the first, but who knows? Only the person who got the redem back from UD knows for sure.

Guest · Apr 5, 2009

G $MONEY$ said:
vaughn said:

there is absolutely no reason for a seller to EVER make his auction a "private listing" on a sports card. period.

The first one is definately fake, the second one is iffy but has way more of a chance to be real IMO.

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Hi Vaughn This is exactly what i thought when i looked at the two auctions. Guess what? Even if the card in auction #1 is real, im not buying and im gonna think its fake, just for having the private bidder/buyer BS. The second one might be real, as might the first, but who knows? Only the person who got the redem back from UD knows for sure.

I was bored and searched 14 pages of results from my "(08,2008) SP Authentic (auto, autograph)" search.....put one on my watch list just to see what one as nice as that would end like.....and then a couple of pages later I see the other one......first I thought it was just a "borrowed" scan....then I looked at the serials and saw that they were different....so thats when I started to take a closer look at the patches.....I do realize that they probably use 2 or 3 different jerseys for a card #ed that high......but the patches are clearly different.......I clicked "larger image" or whatever, in two different tabs and went back and fourth several times and it's like watching a picture change shape.

G $MONEY$ · Apr 5, 2009

trojanfan43 said:
G $MONEY$ said:

vaughn said:

there is absolutely no reason for a seller to EVER make his auction a "private listing" on a sports card. period.

The first one is definately fake, the second one is iffy but has way more of a chance to be real IMO.

Click to expand...

Hi Vaughn This is exactly what i thought when i looked at the two auctions. Guess what? Even if the card in auction #1 is real, im not buying and im gonna think its fake, just for having the private bidder/buyer BS. The second one might be real, as might the first, but who knows? Only the person who got the redem back from UD knows for sure.

Click to expand...

I was bored and searched 14 pages of results from my "(08,2008) SP Authentic (auto, autograph)" search.....put one on my watch list just to see what one as nice as that would end like.....and then a couple of pages later I see the other one......first I thought it was just a "borrowed" scan....then I looked at the serials and saw that they were different....so thats when I started to take a closer look at the patches.....I do realize that they probably use 2 or 3 different jerseys for a card #ed that high......but the patches are clearly different.......I clicked "larger image" or whatever, in two different tabs and went back and fourth several times and it's like watching a picture change shape.

What do u mean by the patches are clearly different? Just so u know UD gets these jerseys at the Rookie Premier in May and each card compnay walks out of there with 20-30 event worn jerseys of each player and even more of the higher 1st rounders or players that are supposed to be hot for the year.

Guest · Apr 5, 2009

G $MONEY$ said:
trojanfan43 said:

[quote="G $MONEY$":ln4zcs3d]

vaughn said:

there is absolutely no reason for a seller to EVER make his auction a "private listing" on a sports card. period.

The first one is definately fake, the second one is iffy but has way more of a chance to be real IMO.

Click to expand...

Hi Vaughn This is exactly what i thought when i looked at the two auctions. Guess what? Even if the card in auction #1 is real, im not buying and im gonna think its fake, just for having the private bidder/buyer BS. The second one might be real, as might the first, but who knows? Only the person who got the redem back from UD knows for sure.

Click to expand...

I was bored and searched 14 pages of results from my "(08,2008) SP Authentic (auto, autograph)" search.....put one on my watch list just to see what one as nice as that would end like.....and then a couple of pages later I see the other one......first I thought it was just a "borrowed" scan....then I looked at the serials and saw that they were different....so thats when I started to take a closer look at the patches.....I do realize that they probably use 2 or 3 different jerseys for a card #ed that high......but the patches are clearly different.......I clicked "larger image" or whatever, in two different tabs and went back and fourth several times and it's like watching a picture change shape.

What do u mean by the patches are clearly different? Just so u know UD gets these jerseys at the Rookie Premier in May and each card compnay walks out of there with 20-30 event worn jerseys of each player and even more of the higher 1st rounders or players that are supposed to be hot for the year.[/quote:ln4zcs3d]

first I noticed that one had yellow and the other had gold stitching....thought it was just the lighting in the picture.....so I kept flipping back and forth and noticed that the letters are bigger (bolder) in one then the other.

madman1978 · Apr 6, 2009

vaughn said:
there is absolutely no reason for a seller to EVER make his auction a "private listing" on a sports card. period.

The first one is definitely fake, the second one is iffy but has way more of a chance to be real IMO.

This is done so other sellers cannot hi-jack buyers
a number of times while bidding on cards i have received offers to buy cards that i was bidding on and on a high profile card i believe it is a good idea expect ebay no hides the user IDs so there may not be an issues

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