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Thread: Cardinals Acquire Paul Goldschmidt For Weaver/Kelly/Young+

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    Quote Originally Posted by death2redemptions View Post
    He simply looked me in the eyes and proceeded to say...."Worst. Deal. Ever."

    Then I woke up on the Titanic...which if interpreted by a dream specialist may symbolize both my love for DiCaprio and my thoughts of the D-Backs 2018/19 offseason (goodbye Corbin & Goldy you shall be missed)
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    This trade reminds me of Edward Norton getting raped in "American History X".
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    At least Topps now knows who Paul Goldschmidt is!

    That's about 8 less times seeing Goldy in the opposing batters box each season... or probably a hundred more times I have the chance to see Goldy play on TV each year.

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    Ugh, not only do I hate it when teams are basically forced to trade away their franchise player, especially one as beloved as Goldy, but what the Diamondbacks got back in return is an insult to everything he’s accomplished the past six seasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeliciousBacon View Post
    This trade reminds me of Edward Norton getting raped in "American History X".
    Super sexy?!





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    The Cardinals gave up virtually nothing. I really like this trade.





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    I feel like teams are viewing trades a little differently. Think of it this way... any team can just throw money at Machado or Harper and get a star who is still very young. For goldschmidt, you are going to have to pay him a ton after this year to retain him, and you also have to trade prospects for him.

    With prospects, if they are any good, you get basically 5 years before you really have to ante up, and so you can throw the money elsewhere.

    The way the salaries are setup in baseball now, young controllable players are way more valuable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    The Cardinals gave up virtually nothing. I really like this trade.
    Thanks a lot for throwing all your trash on our yard

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    P.S. So long Goldy and thanks for all the home runs
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosterbor View Post
    Maybe you will wake up tomorrow and read that it was just fake news. NA.
    Welp, woke up and our sh!tty GM just confirmed it....everything still sucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    Super sexy?!
    That's hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by death2redemptions View Post
    Thanks a lot for throwing all your trash on our yard

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    P.S. So long Goldy and thanks for all the home runs
    Weaver isnít bad, but seems to fold under pressure. Heís a solid 4 or 5 starter for many years to come. Has the potential to develop into something more, but not a 1 or 2 in my opinion.

    Carson will be a fine major leaguer. Heís a good player, but he should have been traded the minute Molin signed his extension. There was no reason to keep him with Andrew Knizner coming up through the ranks quickly.

    Never heard of the prospect, and Iím not worried about the draft pick.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Mario View Post
    Weaver isn’t bad, but seems to fold under pressure. He’s a solid 4 or 5 starter for many years to come. Has the potential to develop into something more, but not a 1 or 2 in my opinion.

    Carson will be a fine major leaguer. He’s a good player, but he should have been traded the minute Molin signed his extension. There was no reason to keep him with Andrew Knizner coming up through the ranks quickly.

    Never heard of the prospect, and I’m not worried about the draft pick.
    For this deal to be meaningful at all (for the D-Backs), Luke Weaver needs to live up to the potential he was said to have once as a top prospect...which was basically that of a mid-rotation pitcher. Getting 5-6 years of that production from him would most certainly be of equal value (or more) to what Goldy will do in a year.

    I've never watched him pitch before so really have no idea what to expect. All I can go by are his stats, which are not good, but I'm aware that some pitchers take longer to develop so those stats too are rather meaningless at this point.

    I'm mostly pissed because you guys have a plethora of young talented mlb ready pitchers to choose from but we ended up with the one at the bottom of the barrel. I would have loved so much to see Jack Flaherty wearing a D-Backs jersey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topnotchsy View Post
    I feel like teams are viewing trades a little differently. Think of it this way... any team can just throw money at Machado or Harper and get a star who is still very young. For goldschmidt, you are going to have to pay him a ton after this year to retain him, and you also have to trade prospects for him.

    With prospects, if they are any good, you get basically 5 years before you really have to ante up, and so you can throw the money elsewhere.

    The way the salaries are setup in baseball now, young controllable players are way more valuable.


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    Hit the nail on the head! it's all about young controllable players.
    if it would have been 2 years ago and you had Goldy for minimum 3 seasons
    the cost would have been thru the roof.

    I am a life long Cardinal fan, Goldy fits STL. If Goldy comes in and plays well.
    the fans will love him and he will resign with STL, if not they part ways.
    I myself love Kelly and thought STL would tried to work Kelly into the line-up
    but this trade will go down as a win for STL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by death2redemptions View Post
    I would have loved so much to see Jack Flaherty wearing a D-Backs jersey
    I'm sure you would. Do the Diamondbacks have someone with 3-4 years of control who is as good as Goldy?
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    Well really with Ozuna not putting up expected numbers, the Cards need a HR (or any sign of power)threat...Goldy has legit 40 homer potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteD View Post
    Well really with Ozuna not putting up expected numbers, the Cards need a HR (or any sign of power)threat...Goldy has legit 40 homer potential.
    As a Cards fan I love the Goldy trade, but power wasn't an issue with the Cardinals last year. They were 4th in the NL in home runs and 7th in slugging. Adding Goldy and with Ozuna healthy plus Tyler O'Neill getting more run and they could be 1 or 2 this year.
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