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    This is really going to bother me until next year

    In 2004, Topps introduced black refractors to Heritage, numbered the the last 2 digits of the year they were reproducing, and they've been a mainstay in the set ever since. Except for 2017 when they switched to blue for some reason, you could rely on black bordered refractors being a good source of value as they are tough enough to be challenging but not so rare that people don't actively chase sets or their particular players or teams. It's been 16 years so far, and it's a consistently popular parallel. That brings us to 2020, reprinting the black-bordered 1971 set. Obviously, having black border refractors in a black bordered set is going to present a unique challenge in making them stand out. As I see it, they could do 4 things with the chrome cards:

    1) Make the base chrome and refractor cards with white and silver (or other) borders, and keep the #/71 cards black
    2) Make the #/71 cards a different color, or even a pattern
    3) Keep the #/999, #/571, and #/71 tiers all black but differentiate in the picture area or lettering somehow
    4) Not make a #/71 parallel

    I'd suppose #4 is not really an option. I am guessing #1 is what will happen. This is kind of lame, because I would want the purity of the base chromes being essentially as close to the base set as possible, but I'm not sure what else they'd do with borders. Black or not-black seem to be the options. Based on recent history, #2 could be the way they go. However, the black in the borders of these refractors doesn't really refract, so it would be hard to differentiate between flat black chome and a rainbow finish black chrome, so the #/999 and #/571 tiers won't really look too different if they keep with black on all tiers. So that's where #3 could come in. They've colorized the picture boxes of various other sets like Topps Chrome or Bowman Chrome, while keeping the standard borders, but they have never done that with Heritage.

    I'm putting way too much thought into this. I've been worried about this since 2004, and now it's almost upon us.
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    The white or silver background seems the most likely to me as well...
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    Quote Originally Posted by smapdi View Post
    I'm putting way too much thought into this. I've been worried about this since 2004, and now it's almost upon us.


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    I'd hate to see #1 because those sexy black borders are what make '71 '71. I think a black refractor is still going to look awesome so I'd just leave it alone. Black base and chrome base and black refractors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982 View Post
    I'd hate to see #1 because those sexy black borders are what make '71 '71. I think a black refractor is still going to look awesome so I'd just leave it alone. Black base and chrome base and black refractors.
    So are you just going to skip the refractor parallel that's going to be /571? You have to be able to distinguish between the regular refractor and black refractor, which you can't if they are both black borders.
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    Make base chrome just black but regular refractors silver, black refs stay black I say


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    Base chrome -Black
    Refractor- silver border
    Black refractor- black

    Done


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    Make them have the shimmer look


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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkzac View Post
    So are you just going to skip the refractor parallel that's going to be /571? You have to be able to distinguish between the regular refractor and black refractor, which you can't if they are both black borders.
    Skip it or make it silver/white/something else. Making the whole base set have white borders would ruin the whole idea.
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    With the 2007 flagship product, the "Black" parallels were Copper. I like uniformity, so I hope Topps leaves the borders black for 2020 Heritage. The refractor should be enough of a distinguishing factor for the Chrome parallels.


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