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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    You brought it up as a topic, that is why it is being discussed and like you said, NY decided to go with prioritization instead of purchasing the ventilators. Why attack the President for a decision the state made?
    But, as usual, you fail to address the LIE that both Trump and your favorite Pundit site just said. On air.

    That’s why I brought it up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gt2590 View Post
    But, as usual, you fail to address the LIE that both Trump and your favorite Pundit site just said. On air.

    That’s why I brought it up...
    That they didn’t buy ventilators to prepare for a pandemic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    That they didn’t buy ventilators to prepare for a pandemic?
    He called it a hoax...the president didn't prepare for a pandemic.

    History will show you how badly he did...and he continues to be a delicate little flower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    That they didn’t buy ventilators to prepare for a pandemic?
    No, he and The Gateway Pundit both LIED about the circumstances of it and the fact that his own health board recommended against it.

    That’s why I brought it up but yet you fail to acknowledge their lies. Again.

    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    That they didn’t buy ventilators to prepare for a pandemic?
    So I’ll ask again:

    On a scale of 1-10, how would you grade the Trump Admin’s handling of this? From prep for pandemic in 2017 to first case on 1/28 until now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gt2590 View Post
    No, he and The Gateway Pundit both LIED about the circumstances of it and the fact that his own health board recommended against it.

    That’s why I brought it up but yet you fail to acknowledge their lies. Again.

    Why?
    Didn't President Trump say that NY chose not to buy ventilators? And didn't the study say that they would be short of ventilators in a pandemic? Did the Governor agree with the report and determine that instead of buying ventilators they would ration them? Why are they blaming President Trump for the ventilator shortage? Rationing was the strategy they chose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    Didn't President Trump say that NY chose not to buy ventilators? And didn't the study say that they would be short of ventilators in a pandemic? Did the Governor agree with the report and determine that instead of buying ventilators they would ration them? Why are they blaming President Trump for the ventilator shortage? Rationing was the strategy they chose.
    So essentially you'd like to pass the blame to the states?

    The president of the United States is ultimately responsible for the preparedness and safety of the country.

    Trump is responsible for the outcome of the Trump Flu.

    He has tweets that prove he understood that prior to becoming president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyfan0417 View Post
    So essentially you'd like to pass the blame to the states?

    The president of the United States is ultimately responsible for the preparedness and safety of the country.

    Trump is responsible for the outcome of the Trump Flu.

    He has tweets that prove he understood that prior to becoming president.
    Of course all the states should have their own plans in place on how to deal with disasters and emergencies. The Federal Government supports the states, they don't run them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    Of course all the states should have their own plans in place on how to deal with disasters and emergencies. The Federal Government supports the states, they don't run them.
    Sorry...that's not how being the President works. The federal government was not prepared for this pandemic with the president spending weeks saying this wasn't a big deal. We are now hours away from having the largest amount of people who have tested positive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyfan0417 View Post
    Sorry...that's not how being the President works. The federal government was not prepared for this pandemic with the president spending weeks saying this wasn't a big deal. We are now hours away from having the largest amount of people who have tested positive.
    Serious question. How exactly would President Trump make NY buy more ventilators to prepare for a pandemic? And if it is the President's job to make sure NY has enough ventilators for a pandemic, shouldn't President Obama have forced them to do it when the study identified a shortage in 2015?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    Serious question. How exactly would President Trump make NY buy more ventilators to prepare for a pandemic? And if it is the President's job to make sure NY has enough ventilators for a pandemic, shouldn't President Obama have forced them to do it when the study identified a shortage in 2015?
    Stop being obtuse and avoiding the main point. The federal government and the president were not prepared and have handled this poorly. You can try to deflect to something else but it doesn't change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phillyfan0417 View Post
    Stop being obtuse and avoiding the main point. The federal government and the president were not prepared and have handled this poorly. You can try to deflect to something else but it doesn't change anything.
    The ventilators were what we were discussing until you interjected, so the question still stands.

    How exactly would President Trump make NY buy more ventilators to prepare for a pandemic? And if it is the President's job to make sure NY has enough ventilators for a pandemic, shouldn't President Obama have forced them to do it when the study identified a shortage in 2015?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tpeichel View Post
    The ventilators were what we were discussing until you interjected, so the question still stands.

    How exactly would President Trump make NY buy more ventilators to prepare for a pandemic? And if it is the President's job to make sure NY has enough ventilators for a pandemic, shouldn't President Obama have forced them to do it when the study identified a shortage in 2015?
    You are out of the depth!

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cuom...ry?id=69790191

    Trump appeared to be dramatizing a report from a New York Department of Health task force in 2015 which predicted that, if faced with a pandemic like the 1918 Spanish flu, New York would run into a ventilator shortage to the tune of 15,000. The report was recently resurfaced by Betsy McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York and supporter of Trump since 2016, who wrote an op-ed about it in the New York Post. Her op-ed was later picked up by the far-right blog Gateway Pundit.

    The report, however, did not recommend that New York Health Department should have stocked up on ventilators, nor did it find a low-cost option to do so, as Trump indicated Tuesday. Instead, the 2015 report acknowledged that New York should instead prepare for a moderate scenario and rely on federal resources if faced with a severe scenario.
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    tp still won’t address the lies of Trump and his favorite “news” site cited about the “death panels and lotteries” Trump said Cuomo initiated”...
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