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cowboysrule48 said:
And any team in the league would LOVE to have Tim Wakefield on their staff. He's one of the few pitchers that has more value than ERA, K's and W's.
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And any team in the league would LOVE to have Tim Wakefield on their staff. He's one of the few pitchers that has more value than ERA, K's and W's.
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You cannot compare Cal Ripken Jr. to Wakefield. Ripken is one of the best SS of all time. Is Wakefield even a top 50 pitcher of all time? I can understand what you are saying if a guy like Sandy Koufax was pitching in his final season, and the starting pitcher let Koufax start over him. But, for Tim Wakefield, really?bradical said:
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Yay.
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Just throwing this out there...
4 active pitchers have more wins than Wake. To say Wake is a compiler is an understatement, but look at what the guys in front of him are doing this season.
Randy Johnson (8-6, 4.81 ERA)
Jamie Moyer (8-6, 5.99 ERA)
Andy Pettitte (8-5, 4.85 ERA)
John Smoltz (injured, 5.4 ERA)
Tim Wakefield (11-3, 4.31 ERA)
Not saying he's a HOF player or an all time great, but the body of work he's put out and the consistency he's offered has been impressive. I don't think he should be starting the ASG either (while it would have been a nice thing for him), but I hate to hear people talking down on Wake.
4 active pitchers have more wins than Wake. To say Wake is a compiler is an understatement, but look at what the guys in front of him are doing this season.
Randy Johnson (8-6, 4.81 ERA)
Jamie Moyer (8-6, 5.99 ERA)
Andy Pettitte (8-5, 4.85 ERA)
John Smoltz (injured, 5.4 ERA)
Tim Wakefield (11-3, 4.31 ERA)
Not saying he's a HOF player or an all time great, but the body of work he's put out and the consistency he's offered has been impressive. I don't think he should be starting the ASG either (while it would have been a nice thing for him), but I hate to hear people talking down on Wake.
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Tomlinson21RB said:
I'm not talking down on Wake. I'm just saying he doesn't deserve to be in the game this year. It was classy of Joe Maddon to take him and let him experience it once in his career though.
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Agreed. Like I said, he's a good pitcher not a great one.cowboysrule48 said:
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hofautos said:
haha maybe in boston, but anywere else knows hes not that great
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hofautos said:
Zack has always been projected to be an outstanding pitcher. The only thing that has stood in his way is himself.
Makes sense to me. The ASG falls on what would have been Lincecum's next start, and after his CG, I wouldn't really wanna see Haren out there for more than an inning on shorter rest than normal. Hopefully I can finally see the NL win an ASG for the first time.
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KOBEARODLT said:
Well, Boston is the center of the sports world... :lol:
If he's a legend it's because of what he brings to a team beyond stats. There aren't many pitchers that have had the type of career he's had. He's never been dominant, but he's been consistently good and brings a reliable arm to the team that can pitch deep into the game when needed, pitch on short rest when needed, and pitch long relief if needed.
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AL has to face some nasty pitchers. Its finally NLs time to shine.nkdbacks said:
cowboysrule48 said:
Its a "gift" to put a guy who leads the league in wins in an All-Star game? Yet you have Ben Zobrist winning the MVP? Since your obviously a Rays fan, why was Carlos Pena picked? Because he LEADS THE LEAGUE in homeruns. So agree that his BA sucks, his K's are laughable then tell me he leads the league in homeruns so he should be there. Then argue that Wakefield shouldnt be there with 11 wins :? .
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MallCopKJ said:
Though I'm not a big Pena guy (wait what?) I can see Pena more as a homerun is based upon his skills and ability to hit the ball. Wakefield's accomplishments are based upon the skills and ability of his front office to put together a team that outshines his short comings. (aka putting out enough runs that it's impossible for him to screw it up)
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him or broxton. or street?hofautos said:
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