Official Error and Variation Discussion/Reference Thread

Be8el0ve · Aug 7, 2011

DeliciousBacon said:
Be8el0ve said:

Anyone know where the silver foil cards come from and how diffuicult are they to obtain?

1996 Fleer - Silver Foil, Gold Foil, Tiffany

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The Silver Foils are from the 1996 Fleer Team Sets, a similar concept to the Donruss and Score team sets of the same era. Each team had 20 cards, and I think most of the teams had them; they were issued in 10 cards packs in team-specific boxes. The numbering the giveaway; the Team Sets cards are numbered 'X of 20'.

Thanks for the quick reply. I was thinking this since I knew there was a team set in 1996. The problem is, all three cards are numbered 184.

jacksoncoupage · Aug 7, 2011

To further complicate matters, there is "silver foil" variation on the Tiffany parallel. NOT the team set cards, but pack-issued from 1996 Fleer. I once owned two copies of Mike Sweeney's RC like this.

DeliciousBacon · Aug 7, 2011

Be8el0ve said:
DeliciousBacon said:

Be8el0ve said:

Anyone know where the silver foil cards come from and how diffuicult are they to obtain?

1996 Fleer - Silver Foil, Gold Foil, Tiffany
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The Silver Foils are from the 1996 Fleer Team Sets, a similar concept to the Donruss and Score team sets of the same era. Each team had 20 cards, and I think most of the teams had them; they were issued in 10 cards packs in team-specific boxes. The numbering the giveaway; [b]the Team Sets cards are numbered 'X of 20'[/b].[/quote]

Thanks for the quick reply. I was thinking this since I knew there was a team set in 1996. The problem is, all three cards are numbered 184.[/quote]

Right after I responded, I noticed there is no 1996 Fleer Yankees team set. I don't recall hearing of or seeing these silver foils before, and I wish I hadn't because now I have lots of extra cards to look for!

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ASTROBURN · Aug 7, 2011

Wow. What an interesting thread. It made me grab my box of doubles and check the backs for all of these little differences. I havent found anything yet. Nuthin like the totally different back on my MVP Bagwell like Predators, and havent found different Pinnacle Brand logos on my Summits. Never paid that close attention to the backs. Now I have to go thru all the common boxes at my LCS just to double check. oh god, my OCD is kicking in!!!

But if there were anything different between a couple of cards I have wanted to know about, it is this:

Playoff%20Prestige%2083%20Light%20Blue.jpg

I have a decent number of extras of the darker, but only one with that lighter color. Has anyone else run across this?

And then theres this from 95 Stadium Club. I have quite a few extras where the color of the foil is a rainbow of colors, but i also have quite a few where the foil is all in red. Anyone else? (Sorry, the scans didnt quite pick up the color of the foil)

Stadium%20Club%20501%20Rainbow%20Foil.jpg

DeliciousBacon · Aug 7, 2011

ASTROBURN said:
, and havent found different Pinnacle Brand logos on my Summits.

Wait what? Are there logo variations on Summits? Both years? Oh god kill me now.

ASTROBURN · Aug 7, 2011

DeliciousBacon said:
ASTROBURN said:

, and havent found different Pinnacle Brand logos on my Summits.

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Wait what? Are there logo variations on Summits? Both years? Oh god kill me now.

Yeah, I was goin thru the first post of this thread and saw this:

I checked mine, and all are the same... Maybe the card companies decided to mess with McGwire only, seeing how all the samples are his cards :lol: j/k

Bornagaincollector · Aug 7, 2011

Is there a corrected version for this card?

ASTROBURN · Aug 7, 2011

Looks like he played much better for the Red Sox in 78 than the Orioles in 78. :lol:

Well, I started goin thru my doubles and found different 92 Donruss cards with the "INC" and the "INC." Do you guys consider the lack of a period a "different card"? Opinions?

DeliciousBacon · Aug 7, 2011

ASTROBURN said:
Looks like he played much better for the Red Sox in 78 than the Orioles in 78. :lol:

Well, I started goin thru my doubles and found different 92 Donruss cards with the "INC" and the "INC." Do you guys consider the lack of a period a "different card"? Opinions?

I do, but I have been unable to get any variations from 1992 Donruss. I collect all the Donruss INC variations from 1989 through 1991, it's an easy way to bring extra value to junk wax like this. For example, unless I'm missing something, there are at least 8 different varities of the 1990 Donruss Harold Baines All Star, involving the INC/INC., Recent Major League Performance/All Star Game Performance, and the Line through the star on front/No Line. Will Clark has a whole bunch, too. And I'll get 'em all if I can!

ASTROBURN · Aug 7, 2011

Well, this just swung me over to the "Different Card" side. The 92 Stadium Club CLEARLY has E or F, and A or B. So now I am comparing my doubles box with my PC. I'm gonna have to add a "Variations" section to my PC Website, noting the differences. I have already added 3 cards to my 91's and 6 to my 92's. Most were the INC/INC. and the Stad Club letters, but then I also noticed a definite difference in the shade of blue used on the back of one of my 92 Diamond Kings. Out of 5 cards, one was totally lighter in the shade of blue. Is that a variation? Oh well, on to 93!

dietdew · Aug 25, 2011

sschauer said:
And even more

1978 Sportcaster trademark line 3 variation not sure if whole set or just for Rose

back copyright Editionsa Rencontre, S.A., Lausanne
back copyright Editionsa Rencontre, S.A., Lausanne A
back copyright Editio-Services S.A., Geneva B

I just found this one with a "C" in the trademark line. Date says 1979.

Same card. No letter, but seems to have 1978 as the date.

tpeichel · Aug 25, 2011

dietdew said:
sschauer said:

And even more

1978 Sportcaster trademark line 3 variation not sure if whole set or just for Rose

back copyright Editionsa Rencontre, S.A., Lausanne
back copyright Editionsa Rencontre, S.A., Lausanne A
back copyright Editio-Services S.A., Geneva B

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I just found this one with a "C" in the trademark line. Date says 1979.

Same card. No letter, but seems to have 1978 as the date.

They were printed over three different years so you'll see some date 1977, others 1978, and the really tough ones, 1979. I'd only count the variation if it was different within the same year.

dietdew · Aug 26, 2011

tpeichel said:
dietdew said:

sschauer said:

And even more

1978 Sportcaster trademark line 3 variation not sure if whole set or just for Rose

back copyright Editionsa Rencontre, S.A., Lausanne
back copyright Editionsa Rencontre, S.A., Lausanne A
back copyright Editio-Services S.A., Geneva B

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I just found this one with a "C" in the trademark line. Date says 1979.

Same card. No letter, but seems to have 1978 as the date.

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They were printed over three different years so you'll see some date 1977, others 1978, and the really tough ones, 1979. I'd only count the variation if it was different within the same year.

I'll have to group these by year then figure out the trademark lines. I was so excited when I first saw the "C" that I didn't notice the other differences until I took a good look. I wish more sellers would display front and back when they list these because I feel like such a dink asking a bunch of people to look up the trademark line on a $2 card.

For what it's worth, the three cards initially brought up as variations by the Rose collector are 1977 copyrights if you check his site.

011873 · Aug 27, 2011

I had the itch and bought 14 sealed 1986 Donruss Highlights sets over the weekend for $10 hoping to land a white letter error.

So, speaking of it, does anyone know EXACTLY how the WL errors were distributed? Meaning if one card was a WL, was the entire set filled with them too? Or was it just a random WL error or two in a set?

As a side note, for anyone with sealed 1990 Topps Rak packs (and perhaps Cellos), if you see a Jeff Juden card on top, more than likely a Frank Thomas is in that pack as well. Thats the pattern.

I bought a HUGE lot of stuff and in it were 3-4 Raks with Juden on top and each one had a Thomas inside....corrected.

tpeichel · Sep 1, 2011

1984 O'Connell & Sons Ink First Series Variations. I'm making a best guess here, but what I think may have happened is that he printed the first series and then went back and started doing additional series. When he had finished, people started asking for complete sets, so he needed to go back and reprint the first series because they were all gone. At that point he decided to make some improvements. Almost all of the cards with a red background had the standard black print replaced with black print surrounded by a white highlight, a technique he used throughout subsequent series.

For the Rose he even moved the name from the top to the bottom of the card and on the Minoso he removed the neck, moved the number and removed the copyright.

Another variation was the background color. The Henderson and Boggs cards were changed from green to red.

The final variation is from a color to no color at all. Maybe he ran out of ink? Not sure. I've verified this variation on the Strawberry and Murphy but there may be others.

tpeichel · Sep 1, 2011

So this would be the 1984 O'Connell 1st Series Checklist with variations:

PLAYER YEAR DESCRIPTION
WILLIAMS,TED 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #01
MINOSO,MINNIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #02 (black letter variation)
MINOSO,MINNIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #02 (black letter with white highlight variation)
KOUFAX,SANDY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #03
KALINE,AL 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #04
FORD,WHITEY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #05
BOGGS,WADE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #06 (green background variation)
BOGGS,WADE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #06 (red background variation)
RYAN,NOLAN 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #07
LUZINSKI,GREG 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #08 (black letter variation)
LUZINSKI,GREG 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #08 (black letter with white highlight variation)
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #09
YASTRZEMSKI,CARL 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #10
MURPHY,DALE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #11 (black & white background variation)
MURPHY,DALE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #11 (blue background variation)
COLAVITO,ROCKY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #12 (black letter variation)
COLAVITO,ROCKY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #12 (black letter with white highlight variation)
BRETT,GEORGE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #13
MCCOVEY,WILLIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #14
CAREW,ROD 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #15
GIBSON,BOB 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #16 (black letter variation)
GIBSON,BOB 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #16 (black letter with white highlight variation)
YOUNT,ROBIN 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #17
CARLTON,STEVE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #18 (black letter variation)
CARLTON,STEVE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #18 (black letter with white highlight variation)
KILLIBREW,HARMON 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #19
MAYS,WILLIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #20
JACKSON,REGGIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #21
MATTHEWS,EDDIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #22
MURRAY,EDDIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #23
BENCH,JOHNNY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #24 (black letter variation)
BENCH,JOHNNY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #24 (black letter with white highlight variation)
MANTLE,MICKEY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #25
STARGELL,WILLIE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #26
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #27 (green background variation)
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #27 (red background variation)
MARIS,ROGER 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #28
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #29 (black & white background variation)
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #29 (orange background variation)
ROSE,PETE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #30 (name on bottom/black letter variation)
ROSE,PETE 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #30 (name on top/black letter with white highlight variation)
RICE,JIM 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #31
MUNSON,THURMAN 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #32
ROBINSON,BROOKS 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #33
VALENZUELA,FERNANDO 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #34
OLIVA,TONY 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #35
AARON,HANK 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #36 (black letter variation)
AARON,HANK 1984 O'Connell & Son Ink Series 1 #36 (black letter with white highlight variation)

tpeichel · Sep 12, 2011

This variation is the 1987 Topps Sticker blue ink/black ink variation. I never paid much attention to ti because the Foil stickers always had black ink and the regular stickers always used blue ink on the back so I didn't think it was a true variation.

However, what they meant was that the Foil stickers had a variation where most of the time they used black ink for the printing and other times they used blue ink. I'm seeing about a 10 to 1 ratio on stickers that I have.

1) Regular Issue - with black ink
2) OPC
3) Hard Back Test Issue
4) Regular Issue - blue ink variation

Here is the checklist for the affected cards:
PLAYER Year DESCRIPTION
BOGGS,WADE 1987 OPC Sticker #148 Foil
BOGGS,WADE 1987 Topps Sticker #148 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
BOGGS,WADE 1987 Topps Sticker #148 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
BOGGS,WADE 1987 "Topps Sticker #148 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
CARTER,GARY 1987 OPC Sticker #158 Foil
CARTER,GARY 1987 Topps Sticker #158 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
CARTER,GARY 1987 Topps Sticker #158 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
CARTER,GARY 1987 "Topps Sticker #158 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 OPC Sticker #154 Foil
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 Topps Sticker #154 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 Topps Sticker #154 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 "Topps Sticker #154 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 OPC Sticker #163 Foil
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 Topps Sticker #163 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 Topps Sticker #163 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 "Topps Sticker #163 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
GWYNN,TONY 1987 OPC Sticker #155 Foil
GWYNN,TONY 1987 Topps Sticker #155 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
GWYNN,TONY 1987 Topps Sticker #155 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
GWYNN,TONY 1987 "Topps Sticker #155 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 OPC Sticker #147 Foil
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 Topps Sticker #147 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 Topps Sticker #147 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 "Topps Sticker #147 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 OPC Sticker #157 Foil
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 Topps Sticker #157 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 Topps Sticker #157 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 "Topps Sticker #157 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 OPC Sticker #150 Foil
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 Topps Sticker #150 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 Topps Sticker #150 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 "Topps Sticker #150 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
MURPHY,DALE 1987 OPC Sticker #161 Foil
MURPHY,DALE 1987 Topps Sticker #161 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
MURPHY,DALE 1987 Topps Sticker #161 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
MURPHY,DALE 1987 "Topps Sticker #161 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 OPC Sticker #149 Foil
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 Topps Sticker #149 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 Topps Sticker #149 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 "Topps Sticker #149 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 OPC Sticker #146 Foil
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 Topps Sticker #146 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 Topps Sticker #146 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 "Topps Sticker #146 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 OPC Sticker #151 Foil
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 Topps Sticker #151 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 Topps Sticker #151 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 "Topps Sticker #151 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 OPC Sticker #156 Foil
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 Topps Sticker #156 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 Topps Sticker #156 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 "Topps Sticker #156 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 OPC Sticker #160 Foil
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 Topps Sticker #160 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 Topps Sticker #160 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 "Topps Sticker #160 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 OPC Sticker #162 Foil
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 Topps Sticker #162 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 Topps Sticker #162 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 "Topps Sticker #162 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 OPC Sticker #159 Foil
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 Topps Sticker #159 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 Topps Sticker #159 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 "Topps Sticker #159 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 OPC Sticker #153 Foil
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 Topps Sticker #153 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 Topps Sticker #153 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 "Topps Sticker #153 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 OPC Sticker #152 Foil
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 Topps Sticker #152 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 Topps Sticker #152 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 "Topps Sticker #152 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"

TNP777 · Sep 13, 2011

do the Donruss INC/INC. variations follow through to Diamond Kings? If so, I need to look at some '92s.

Mozzie22 · Sep 13, 2011

tpeichel said:
This variation is the 1987 Topps Sticker blue ink/black ink variation. I never paid much attention to ti because the Foil stickers always had black ink and the regular stickers always used blue ink on the back so I didn't think it was a true variation.

However, what they meant was that the Foil stickers had a variation where most of the time they used black ink for the printing and other times they used blue ink. I'm seeing about a 10 to 1 ratio on stickers that I have.

1) Regular Issue - with black ink
2) OPC
3) Hard Back Test Issue
4) Regular Issue - blue ink variation

Here is the checklist for the affected cards:
PLAYER Year DESCRIPTION
BOGGS,WADE 1987 OPC Sticker #148 Foil
BOGGS,WADE 1987 Topps Sticker #148 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
BOGGS,WADE 1987 Topps Sticker #148 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
BOGGS,WADE 1987 "Topps Sticker #148 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
CARTER,GARY 1987 OPC Sticker #158 Foil
CARTER,GARY 1987 Topps Sticker #158 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
CARTER,GARY 1987 Topps Sticker #158 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
CARTER,GARY 1987 "Topps Sticker #158 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 OPC Sticker #154 Foil
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 Topps Sticker #154 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 Topps Sticker #154 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 "Topps Sticker #154 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 OPC Sticker #163 Foil
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 Topps Sticker #163 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 Topps Sticker #163 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 "Topps Sticker #163 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
GWYNN,TONY 1987 OPC Sticker #155 Foil
GWYNN,TONY 1987 Topps Sticker #155 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
GWYNN,TONY 1987 Topps Sticker #155 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
GWYNN,TONY 1987 "Topps Sticker #155 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 OPC Sticker #147 Foil
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 Topps Sticker #147 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 Topps Sticker #147 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 "Topps Sticker #147 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 OPC Sticker #157 Foil
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 Topps Sticker #157 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 Topps Sticker #157 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 "Topps Sticker #157 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 OPC Sticker #150 Foil
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 Topps Sticker #150 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 Topps Sticker #150 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 "Topps Sticker #150 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
MURPHY,DALE 1987 OPC Sticker #161 Foil
MURPHY,DALE 1987 Topps Sticker #161 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
MURPHY,DALE 1987 Topps Sticker #161 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
MURPHY,DALE 1987 "Topps Sticker #161 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 OPC Sticker #149 Foil
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 Topps Sticker #149 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 Topps Sticker #149 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 "Topps Sticker #149 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 OPC Sticker #146 Foil
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 Topps Sticker #146 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 Topps Sticker #146 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 "Topps Sticker #146 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 OPC Sticker #151 Foil
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 Topps Sticker #151 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 Topps Sticker #151 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 "Topps Sticker #151 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 OPC Sticker #156 Foil
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 Topps Sticker #156 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 Topps Sticker #156 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 "Topps Sticker #156 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 OPC Sticker #160 Foil
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 Topps Sticker #160 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 Topps Sticker #160 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 "Topps Sticker #160 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 OPC Sticker #162 Foil
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 Topps Sticker #162 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 Topps Sticker #162 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 "Topps Sticker #162 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 OPC Sticker #159 Foil
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 Topps Sticker #159 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 Topps Sticker #159 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 "Topps Sticker #159 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 OPC Sticker #153 Foil
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 Topps Sticker #153 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 Topps Sticker #153 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 "Topps Sticker #153 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 OPC Sticker #152 Foil
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 Topps Sticker #152 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 Topps Sticker #152 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 "Topps Sticker #152 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"

It is funny you posted this because I was about to start a thread about this. I have all of the Ozzie variations listed above but I was wondering this. Shouldn't there be an Ozzie Smith #46 with a black back? I don't have one and have never seen one. Wasn't the blue back the regular issue and the black is the rarity? Do you have one or does this combo just not exist? I need help!!

thanks

tpeichel · Sep 13, 2011

Mozzie22 said:
tpeichel said:

This variation is the 1987 Topps Sticker blue ink/black ink variation. I never paid much attention to ti because the Foil stickers always had black ink and the regular stickers always used blue ink on the back so I didn't think it was a true variation.

However, what they meant was that the Foil stickers had a variation where most of the time they used black ink for the printing and other times they used blue ink. I'm seeing about a 10 to 1 ratio on stickers that I have.

1) Regular Issue - with black ink
2) OPC
3) Hard Back Test Issue
4) Regular Issue - blue ink variation

Here is the checklist for the affected cards:
PLAYER Year DESCRIPTION
BOGGS,WADE 1987 OPC Sticker #148 Foil
BOGGS,WADE 1987 Topps Sticker #148 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
BOGGS,WADE 1987 Topps Sticker #148 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
BOGGS,WADE 1987 "Topps Sticker #148 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
CARTER,GARY 1987 OPC Sticker #158 Foil
CARTER,GARY 1987 Topps Sticker #158 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
CARTER,GARY 1987 Topps Sticker #158 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
CARTER,GARY 1987 "Topps Sticker #158 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 OPC Sticker #154 Foil
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 Topps Sticker #154 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 Topps Sticker #154 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
CLEMENS,ROGER 1987 "Topps Sticker #154 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 OPC Sticker #163 Foil
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 Topps Sticker #163 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 Topps Sticker #163 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
GOODEN,DWIGHT 1987 "Topps Sticker #163 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
GWYNN,TONY 1987 OPC Sticker #155 Foil
GWYNN,TONY 1987 Topps Sticker #155 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
GWYNN,TONY 1987 Topps Sticker #155 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
GWYNN,TONY 1987 "Topps Sticker #155 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 OPC Sticker #147 Foil
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 Topps Sticker #147 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 Topps Sticker #147 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
HENDERSON,RICKEY 1987 "Topps Sticker #147 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 OPC Sticker #157 Foil
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 Topps Sticker #157 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 Topps Sticker #157 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
HERNANDEZ,KEITH 1987 "Topps Sticker #157 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 OPC Sticker #150 Foil
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 Topps Sticker #150 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 Topps Sticker #150 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
JOYNER,WALLY 1987 "Topps Sticker #150 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
MURPHY,DALE 1987 OPC Sticker #161 Foil
MURPHY,DALE 1987 Topps Sticker #161 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
MURPHY,DALE 1987 Topps Sticker #161 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
MURPHY,DALE 1987 "Topps Sticker #161 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 OPC Sticker #149 Foil
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 Topps Sticker #149 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 Topps Sticker #149 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
PARRISH,LANCE 1987 "Topps Sticker #149 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 OPC Sticker #146 Foil
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 Topps Sticker #146 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 Topps Sticker #146 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
PUCKETT,KIRBY 1987 "Topps Sticker #146 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 OPC Sticker #151 Foil
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 Topps Sticker #151 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 Topps Sticker #151 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
RIPKEN JR,CAL 1987 "Topps Sticker #151 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 OPC Sticker #156 Foil
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 Topps Sticker #156 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 Topps Sticker #156 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SANDBERG,RYNE 1987 "Topps Sticker #156 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 OPC Sticker #160 Foil
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 Topps Sticker #160 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 Topps Sticker #160 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SCHMIDT,MIKE 1987 "Topps Sticker #160 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 OPC Sticker #162 Foil
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 Topps Sticker #162 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 Topps Sticker #162 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
SMITH,OZZIE 1987 "Topps Sticker #162 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 OPC Sticker #159 Foil
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 Topps Sticker #159 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 Topps Sticker #159 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
STRAWBERRY,DARRYL 1987 "Topps Sticker #159 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 OPC Sticker #153 Foil
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 Topps Sticker #153 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 Topps Sticker #153 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
WHITAKER,LOU 1987 "Topps Sticker #153 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 OPC Sticker #152 Foil
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 Topps Sticker #152 Foil (black print on back/Made in Italy)
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 Topps Sticker #152 Foil (blue print on back/Made in Italy)
WINFIELD,DAVE 1987 "Topps Sticker #152 Foil Hard Back/Test Issue (blue print on back/ No ""Made in Italy"")"

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It is funny you posted this because I was about to start a thread about this. I have all of the Ozzie variations listed above but I was wondering this. Shouldn't there be an Ozzie Smith #46 with a black back? I don't have one and have never seen one. Wasn't the blue back the regular issue and the black is the rarity? Do you have one or does this combo just not exist? I need help!!

thanks

Every one of the non-foil 1987 Topps Stickers that I have has blue print on the back. I don't think the black print variation on the non-foil stickers exists.

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