I wouldn't call this a steal but something to think hard about because the overlap of Griffey collectors and only 10 exist. I want to say I got mine for 550.
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I wouldn't call this a steal but something to think hard about because the overlap of Griffey collectors and only 10 exist. I want to say I got mine for 550.
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Might just be me, but I had a heck of a time finding the big bang bucks card in this auction. 192958522676
Mark McGwire Collector
Current mini set chases:
1998 Tek Diffractors (need 41 patterns)
1998 Tek Pre-Production Blue (86)
1998 Tek Pre-Production Gold (5,8,23,50,59,62,65,77)
1999 Tek Gold /10 (7A pattern: 24), (7B patterns: 4, 28)
2014 Tek (Black/White Auto Proof /1) and (any remaining unique buybacks)
1999 Ultimate Victory Parallels (151, 152)
1998 Donruss Crusade Purple Samples/Prototypes (two different, See examples here)
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Always chipping away at the seemingly never ending collection...Didn’t get to hit up the National this year. Pretty bummed about that. Oh well, there’s always next year.
Finally got the blue ink auto!
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MARK MCGWIRE COLLECTOR
PSA 10 ALL-TIME FINEST #5
Hello! My name is Eric. This isn't exactly the way I wanted to introduce myself, but I thought I'd let you know to stay away from the 1998 Bowman Golden Anniversary Refractor that's currently on eBay. It's a back doored replacement card that had a fake serial number applied within the past few years. Anyhow, hopefully we can get this thread going again. I'd love to talk about Big Mac cards with all of you
Are you talking about the BGS 9? And how would you know unless you did the deed yourself.
No not at all. I was interested in buying it, but I asked the guy who did a write up about the fake serial numbers on these. He's going to post on here later about why the number is wrong. I was just trying to help...Originally Posted by nosterbor
Here’s a summarized version of a write-up I did on these - only focused on the serial numbering to help with distinguishing between real and counterfeit stamps:
nosterbor - There are counterfeit versions of the 1998 Bowman Chrome Golden Anniversary Refractors in baseball
These cards were originally unnumbered proofs which were obtained by unscrupulous owners, counterfeit stamped, and sold on the secondary market. Unnumbered proofs are common for ‘98 and ‘99 Topps/Bowman baseball products (Paper, Chrome, Finest) due to former Topps employees selling off uncut sheets/proofs from the Topps Vault in the late-2000s.
Picture 1: ”A” (Aaron Boone) is the archetype and has the same stamping font as the archetype I referenced in my ‘98 Centurion Refractors post. “B” (Tatis, Sr.) and “C” (Cruz Jr.) feature stamping fonts that are visibly different from font used by Topps. Authentic stamps feature a slightly thicker font (see the "/" and the "5"). Further, the "5" is narrow in authentic stamps - the loop is condensed almost like a straight-edge is compressing it inwards; the counterfeit stamp has a rounder loop. Lastly, the downward vertical line at the top of the "5" on authentic versions are close to 90 degrees; counterfeit stamps feature this line an angle closer to 80 degrees.
Picture 2: See the side-by-side of a counterfeit-stamped Griffey with an archetype stamp for each number, 1-5 . Notice also that the stamping font on the Griffey is almost identical to the Cruz Jr. and Tatis. Back in August 2017, there was a Griffey that was called out as counterfeit by myself and some other collectors for the same reasons as the Cruz, Jr. and Tatis, Sr. It was also stamped 5/5 and listed by same consignor as the Cruz Jr. and Tatis, Sr. (taken down).
I was able to establish direct contact with the owner of the Griffey and he claimed he didn't know, apologized for listing a counterfeit, and took the eBay listing down. However, the same Griffey 5/5 surfaced at the National last year and it seems as though the seller found a sucker to pay $7,500 for it (more details you can read in the actual listing, posted below). Essentially the owner who dropped $7,500 on a counterfeit tried to recoup his losses and thankfully was upfront about everything in the description. He only made $900 back:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/35257284905...app-cvip-panel
Further, the Cruz Jr. and Tatis, Sr. with the same 5/5 counterfeit font resurfaced after disappearing from eBay unsold a year later and sold to unsuspecting buyers.
I don't think it is coincidence that these 3 counterfeits are all stamped 5/5 - maybe the original counterfeiter realized that the number "5" would be easiest to fake.
Share this accordingly!
Last edited by tidel144; 08-06-2019 at 12:52 PM.
Welcome Eric! Nice to see a fellow Mcgwire collector. Though I’d never be able to afford it I appreciate the heads up.
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Hey I really appreciate it! Wish I had discovered this forum a long time ago! It would be nice to talk with fellow Mac collectors
Gold chirography - was a tough auto to find
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Got this the other day on ebay input on if it is the reprint or not would be appreciated.
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Last edited by 7guns; 10-23-2019 at 09:31 PM.
3k for the whole set of these is a steal
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Mark McGwire Collector
Current mini set chases:
1998 Tek Diffractors (need 41 patterns)
1998 Tek Pre-Production Blue (86)
1998 Tek Pre-Production Gold (5,8,23,50,59,62,65,77)
1999 Tek Gold /10 (7A pattern: 24), (7B patterns: 4, 28)
2014 Tek (Black/White Auto Proof /1) and (any remaining unique buybacks)
1999 Ultimate Victory Parallels (151, 152)
1998 Donruss Crusade Purple Samples/Prototypes (two different, See examples here)
» View Collection: 5600+ unique cards
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» Need List
Wish I had the cash for that Joe
Wow you aren’t kidding that is awesome
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Got it cheap just got to figure our which version it is. Been working on my registry tired of being #2.
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