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If you have a Henderson base silver, I would be interested.
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1994 Upper Deck Electric Diamond
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mchenrycards
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I have been gathering the electric diamond parallels for awhile now and is it just me or does it appear that the ED parallels are all rougher in condition (edges, corners) than the regular cards? It seems that each time I find one the edges are rough and its rare that I find one that is decent in condition. Maybe its just me.
nosterbor
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NAAAAAA those are not rare! i have 61 Juan bronze back's and
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Silvers!
anyone?
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Silvers!
anyone?
thelesquad
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I made a small trade for a Sandberg lot that included the Electric Diamond early on when I returned to collecting in 2008. I saw this variation listed in the Official Error and Variation Discussion/Reference Thread a few months ago and decided to check mine. Lo and behold, I actually had the silver version. I went to COMC and picked up the bronze version for under a buck shortly after that.
The only one I ever pulled from packs was Ryne Sandberg, didn't even realize that there were variations for the other players. I had 4 of the silver Sandbergs at one point (and 3 regular backs). I got anywhere from $3-15 for each of the silvers on ebay from 1997-99.
jacksoncoupage
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henderson939 said:
It's up on ebay. I think you asked me about it through ebay previously.
First pass I only checked the Electric Diamond parallels. Based on the new information in this thread I went ahead and checked the base cards as well. Found three base cards with silver backs. No one special though.
174 - Mike Bordick
184 - Milt Thompson
246 - Dave Fleming
Tom
174 - Mike Bordick
184 - Milt Thompson
246 - Dave Fleming
Tom
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jacksoncoupage said:olerud363 said:This listing has been on eBay for a long time: http://cgi.ebay.com/John-Olerud-1994-UD ... 5ad46a7a70 and the seller tries to impress "elite player collectors" that the silver backs are pretty rare. I recently checked my collection and my Electric Diamond is a silver back, so I just bought a card with a recent Beckett Marketplace order that was listed as just "Electric Diamond" for a quarter thinking it must be the "regular" bronze back. It turned out to also be a silver. A bronze back is on COMC also for a quarter.
I was hoping someone here knows which version of '94 UD Electric Diamond is the more "rare" version: silver or bronze back? Or are they equally available? Surely the eBay seller isn't over-hyping a card he's trying to sell... they never do that!
Thanks!
- Rod
As mentioned previously, the silver version of the Electric Diamond parallel is the scarcer variety, and yes, you basically "lucked out." That said, $12 (BO) isn't a stretch for the card. If a Robin Ventura (who I collect) ever showed up, I'd happily plunk down that amount. Some players tend to show up more frequently, such as Kevin Stocker, Raul Mondesi, Kevin Gross etc...I have no idea why, but Sandberg, Bernie, Olerud and Griffey have only shown up a handful of times in my experience (there's a Sandberg on COMC right now).
The rumor is that Upper Deck was using their back design from the previously released minor league set, which featured silver stat headings, and didn't do the switch-over from silver headings right away. I can't say if this is true for sure, but it seems plausible.
Lastly, this same variety also affects the base cards (bronze foil fronts). Most of the players I have found in this variety parallel those found with the silver headings in the Electric Diamond set, however, one error & variation collector has told me that he has a "complete set" of series 1 like this. Who knows? But the base cards with silver headings are in noticeably shorter supply than the Electric Diamond ones. A small batch I own is the only grouping of them that I have found in the 17 years that I have been aware of them. It's possible that many more are out there, tucked in boxes, sets and personal collections (or even wax), but as of today, they remain the scarcest parallel (partial parallel?) in the 1994 UD set.
Haven't talked to you in forever. Hope all is well!
Do you remember who that was? I'd love to try and obtain a scan for the mcgwire site!
predatorkj
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Interesting. I'll be on the lookout for a Bags and others for some of you PC guys.
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olerud363
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jacksoncoupage said:
Thanks for the information. Looks like I need to search out a silver back base version of the Olerud for my PC.
- Rod
jacksoncoupage
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onionring9 said:jacksoncoupage said:olerud363 said:This listing has been on eBay for a long time: http://cgi.ebay.com/John-Olerud-1994-UD ... 5ad46a7a70 and the seller tries to impress "elite player collectors" that the silver backs are pretty rare. I recently checked my collection and my Electric Diamond is a silver back, so I just bought a card with a recent Beckett Marketplace order that was listed as just "Electric Diamond" for a quarter thinking it must be the "regular" bronze back. It turned out to also be a silver. A bronze back is on COMC also for a quarter.
I was hoping someone here knows which version of '94 UD Electric Diamond is the more "rare" version: silver or bronze back? Or are they equally available? Surely the eBay seller isn't over-hyping a card he's trying to sell... they never do that!
Thanks!
- Rod
As mentioned previously, the silver version of the Electric Diamond parallel is the scarcer variety, and yes, you basically "lucked out." That said, $12 (BO) isn't a stretch for the card. If a Robin Ventura (who I collect) ever showed up, I'd happily plunk down that amount. Some players tend to show up more frequently, such as Kevin Stocker, Raul Mondesi, Kevin Gross etc...I have no idea why, but Sandberg, Bernie, Olerud and Griffey have only shown up a handful of times in my experience (there's a Sandberg on COMC right now).
The rumor is that Upper Deck was using their back design from the previously released minor league set, which featured silver stat headings, and didn't do the switch-over from silver headings right away. I can't say if this is true for sure, but it seems plausible.
Lastly, this same variety also affects the base cards (bronze foil fronts). Most of the players I have found in this variety parallel those found with the silver headings in the Electric Diamond set, however, one error & variation collector has told me that he has a "complete set" of series 1 like this. Who knows? But the base cards with silver headings are in noticeably shorter supply than the Electric Diamond ones. A small batch I own is the only grouping of them that I have found in the 17 years that I have been aware of them. It's possible that many more are out there, tucked in boxes, sets and personal collections (or even wax), but as of today, they remain the scarcest parallel (partial parallel?) in the 1994 UD set.
Haven't talked to you in forever. Hope all is well!
Do you remember who that was? I'd love to try and obtain a scan for the mcgwire site!
Hey,
I've been very busy with school for the last 2 years now. I try to get stuff up on the blog and ebay as I can.
The guy who I think gave me that info originally, told me this is the complete checklist (45 cards):
"The cards are both in the base set and the electric diamond version. The following is a list of the numbers: 58,59,60,68,71,73,75,81,83,84,86,89,92,93,97,99,100,102,103,105,113,120,123,124,137,141,151,157,160,166,171,174, 184,187,195,224,225,237,238,239,246,250,259,261 & 266."
So, there may not be a McGwire after all.
DaClyde
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jacksoncoupage said:
So far, what has turned up is consistent with that list.
nosterbor
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then there is no Juan? thank you thank you thank you!DaClyde said:
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jacksoncoupage said:onionring9 said:jacksoncoupage said:olerud363 said:This listing has been on eBay for a long time: http://cgi.ebay.com/John-Olerud-1994-UD ... 5ad46a7a70 and the seller tries to impress "elite player collectors" that the silver backs are pretty rare. I recently checked my collection and my Electric Diamond is a silver back, so I just bought a card with a recent Beckett Marketplace order that was listed as just "Electric Diamond" for a quarter thinking it must be the "regular" bronze back. It turned out to also be a silver. A bronze back is on COMC also for a quarter.
I was hoping someone here knows which version of '94 UD Electric Diamond is the more "rare" version: silver or bronze back? Or are they equally available? Surely the eBay seller isn't over-hyping a card he's trying to sell... they never do that!
Thanks!
- Rod
As mentioned previously, the silver version of the Electric Diamond parallel is the scarcer variety, and yes, you basically "lucked out." That said, $12 (BO) isn't a stretch for the card. If a Robin Ventura (who I collect) ever showed up, I'd happily plunk down that amount. Some players tend to show up more frequently, such as Kevin Stocker, Raul Mondesi, Kevin Gross etc...I have no idea why, but Sandberg, Bernie, Olerud and Griffey have only shown up a handful of times in my experience (there's a Sandberg on COMC right now).
The rumor is that Upper Deck was using their back design from the previously released minor league set, which featured silver stat headings, and didn't do the switch-over from silver headings right away. I can't say if this is true for sure, but it seems plausible.
Lastly, this same variety also affects the base cards (bronze foil fronts). Most of the players I have found in this variety parallel those found with the silver headings in the Electric Diamond set, however, one error & variation collector has told me that he has a "complete set" of series 1 like this. Who knows? But the base cards with silver headings are in noticeably shorter supply than the Electric Diamond ones. A small batch I own is the only grouping of them that I have found in the 17 years that I have been aware of them. It's possible that many more are out there, tucked in boxes, sets and personal collections (or even wax), but as of today, they remain the scarcest parallel (partial parallel?) in the 1994 UD set.
Haven't talked to you in forever. Hope all is well!
Do you remember who that was? I'd love to try and obtain a scan for the mcgwire site!
Hey,
I've been very busy with school for the last 2 years now. I try to get stuff up on the blog and ebay as I can.
The guy who I think gave me that info originally, told me this is the complete checklist (45 cards):
"The cards are both in the base set and the electric diamond version. The following is a list of the numbers: 58,59,60,68,71,73,75,81,83,84,86,89,92,93,97,99,100,102,103,105,113,120,123,124,137,141,151,157,160,166,171,174, 184,187,195,224,225,237,238,239,246,250,259,261 & 266."
So, there may not be a McGwire after all.
The man has spoken!
For anyone that doesn't know jacksoncoupage, he's one of the biggest experts on errors/variations. He's responsible getting me going crazy on these for my mcgwire collection. He's a great guy and a huge fountain of knowledge on the topic.
predatorkj
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Good. No Bagwell to hunt down. I wish I would have hopped on here and looked at this list before I went searching tonight though. Knowing me though...I'd have searched anyways just to sleep better at night.
AUTaxMan
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I probably have 15 silver back base cards. Will check to see who I have.
alexs64
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DaClyde said:
Danny Darwin #126 needs to be added to this list please. Thanks!
ronfromfresno
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Good no Robby Thompson's #193 to track down.
DaClyde
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I updated the listing of cards on page to with the names for the complete 45 card checklist. Was there every any determination as to the origin of these cards? Does anyone know of any uncut sheets for this set?
