Vintage and hall of fame patches

RStadlerASU22 · Apr 8, 2016

Just another day with you two

Ryan

George_Calfas · Apr 8, 2016

Gents, I am far from a Ribinson bat expert but I do know that R17 was the numbering for the stock and spline bats whereas C117 and R115 are the $70-$100K Robinson gamers. That is not to say R17 is not a gamer but I suggest some research. Also, I do know that the Dodgers often wrote the player number in blue ink in small writing on the edge of the knob. Robinson does have known bats with big bold marker but this is less of an indicator for him when compared to the blue ink.

Might ask [MENTION=2055]metallicalex777[/MENTION] to photo match since he has some good sources.

IndyManning18 · Apr 8, 2016

Here's an R17 Mears says is game used from 1953.
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.c...n_brooklyn_dodgers_h_b_louisvil-lot60878.aspx

IndyManning18 · Apr 8, 2016

I'm no expert either, but thought it was relevant.

16christensen16 · Apr 8, 2016

George is correct that the majority of the bats Robinson used were not R17. However through my own research, and I know mlballtimegreats did the same, jackie did use the R17 on a couple occasions. The auction that indymanning posted is legit. I did find that for almost the entire 53 season jackie used the R17 model. Then occasionally throughout the middle 50's he also used it.

I welcome anyone else's findings or opinions or thoughts or concerns. Thanks

mlbsalltimegreats · Apr 8, 2016

I need to do more research when I have time but my thing is when Jackie anything high end comes up and you are into Jackie grab it as you might not see it again. I know the knob on the five star looks used as heck so someone used the damn bat, lol. If I get a chance in the next week or so I'll do some good research.
With that said both of these pieces are incredible and I think Christensen and I are absolutely happy owning them. I mean when I first started to collecting I never thought I would own something of this magnitude!

George_Calfas · Apr 8, 2016

IndyManning18 said:
Here's an R17 Mears says is game used from 1953.
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.c...n_brooklyn_dodgers_h_b_louisvil-lot60878.aspx

A $30k auction from 2012 and a $140k auction from 2014. The vintage game used community seems to avoid R17.
https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/l...56_jackie_robinson_bat__psa_dna_gu_10___the_f

http://www.psacard.com/probatfacts/hall-of-fame-players/jackie-robinson/1571

Tony, I am glad that you are happy and not trying to poopoo the items.

16christensen16 · Apr 8, 2016

I'm going to agree with mlballtimegreats. I'm happy to own my version and plan on owning the card for a long time. I can live with the research that I did, and I'm also 100% aware that R17 bats were only used occasionally during jackies career. Like mlballtimegreats said...how many jackie knobs are out there? Not many and I'm glad to have my copy

George_Calfas · Apr 8, 2016

FWIW it is high time that we FOIA Topps and others

RStadlerASU22 · Apr 8, 2016

Why can't I think of what FOIA mean ? And yes if there was anything I could change would be legitimizing what's on a card. The picture, year, etc of what's on the GU item. I know it's all been said before, but sucks regardless they won't back up their end.

Ryan

mlbsalltimegreats · Apr 8, 2016

George_Calfas said:
A $30k auction from 2012 and a $140k auction from 2014. The vintage game used community seems to avoid R17.
https://goldinauctions.com/mobile/l...56_jackie_robinson_bat__psa_dna_gu_10___the_f

http://www.psacard.com/probatfacts/hall-of-fame-players/jackie-robinson/1571

Tony, I am glad that you are happy and not trying to poopoo the items.

Not at all, I encourage these type of topics and or discussions.

George_Calfas · Apr 8, 2016

I am trying to find the thread(s) but I know the topic of R17 has been a point of discussion on the vintage game used sites. One in particular explained why R17 sells for 1/3 the price of the three-digit labeled bats. I will keep digging.

IndyManning18 · Apr 8, 2016

RStadlerASU22 said:
Why can't I think of what FOIA mean ? And yes if there was anything I could change would be legitimizing what's on a card. The picture, year, etc of what's on the GU item. I know it's all been said before, but sucks regardless they won't back up their end.

Ryan

Freedom of Information Act.

16christensen16 · Apr 8, 2016

George_Calfas said:
I am trying to find the thread(s) but I know the topic of R17 has been a point of discussion on the vintage game used sites. One in particular explained why R17 sells for 1/3 the price of the three-digit labeled bats. I will keep digging.

Yes keep digging please! I like lots of information

and totally yes why can't we have pictures and actual explanations of what we buy on cardboard!

George_Calfas · Apr 8, 2016

RStadlerASU22 said:
Why can't I think of what FOIA mean ? And yes if there was anything I could change would be legitimizing what's on a card. The picture, year, etc of what's on the GU item. I know it's all been said before, but sucks regardless they won't back up their end.

Ryan

FOIA is not the correct term for publicly held companies but there is a way. I am researching.

mlbsalltimegreats · Apr 11, 2016

Here is a card I received from a private deal..

Pinbreaker · Apr 11, 2016

Another fantastic card!!

RStadlerASU22 · Apr 11, 2016

Nice patch Tony !

Ryan

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16christensen16 · Apr 11, 2016

Boooooooooooom

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