Who will have better career numbers: Pujols or Cabrera?

Austin · May 2, 2013

Who do you think will retire with better career stats?
I'm talking the gaudy glamor stats, not the sabermetric stuff.

Pujols and Cabrera both started very young and have Triple Crown type numbers nearly every season.
Pujols always plays through nagging injuries, so that could impact his longevity.
Cabrera is a little chunky, and that may or may not impact the length of his career.

So if you had to choose, who will finish with more mind-blowing stats?

Albert Pujols, age 33

13 seasons

.323 avg.
2,272 hits
479 home runs
1,452 rbi
1,388 runs
1.018 OPS

Miguel Cabrera, age 30

11 seasons

.319 avg.
1,841 hits
325 home runs
1,152 rbi
982 runs
.957 OPS

Vagrant · May 2, 2013

Miggy... because if Pujols is 33 then I am 11.

nappyd · May 2, 2013

Pujols because of playing in better weather

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elmalo · May 3, 2013

Miguel Cabrera is not chunky. Miguel Cabrera is thick. There is a big difference.

cards01fan · May 3, 2013

Pujols more hrs. Cabrera better everything else

kemputer · May 3, 2013

I think it's certainly plausible that Miggy might end up with better numbers. If that does happen, does Miggy outshine Pujols from a hobby perspective though?

Interesting subject.

mmier118 · May 3, 2013

I find this subject interesting too. I really think that in the long run Miggy has a shot at having better stats then Pujols and that in the future it's quite possible that neither will really shine in the hobby, they will still be collected but more in a Mike Schmidt type of way. People will be interested in the new players and Pujols blew his shot at being collected like Griffey or Rickey Henderson when he left St. Louis. I just don't see St. Louis fans collecting Pujols heavily in the future also with Miggy, Detroit just isn't new york and while he'll put up great numbers unless he has some Jeter like longevity he probably won't break any records and will still float along in a similar hobby situation that he is in now.

mwashuc06 · May 4, 2013

Cabrera is this generations Frank Robinson. A lot of people fail to realize how awesome Frank Robinson was.

Austin · May 4, 2013

mwashuc06 said:
Cabrera is this generations Frank Robinson. A lot of people fail to realize how awesome Frank Robinson was.

That's actually a great comparison.

kerryfan5 · May 4, 2013

mwashuc06 said:
Cabrera is this generations Frank Robinson. A lot of people fail to realize how awesome Frank Robinson was.

Yes people know who he is. It's he is Detroit Not New York Boston St. Louis that is why his hobby love lacks. Pujols had this being in St. Louis but left. He is slowing becoming frank Robinson as well.

ThoseBackPages · May 4, 2013

Miggy's main hobby issue is that he is not Caucasian

markakis8 · May 4, 2013

ThoseBackPages said:
Miggy's main hobby issue is that he is not Caucasian

Yeah, Jeter, Griffey, Rickey Henderson, and Pujols got the same raw deal to name a few.

How about going with something like his checkered past?

Bornagaincollector · May 4, 2013

I believe Pujols will hit 600+ hrs and have 2000+ rbis and .320 + ba and go down as 1 of the top 2 rh hitters ever!

kerryfan5 · May 4, 2013

Bornagaincollector said:
I believe Pujols will hit 600+ hrs and have 2000+ rbis and .320 + ba and go down as 1 of the top 2 rh hitters ever!

If I believed that I would have to stock up on Rcs of Pujols. Those are numbers few will ever reach again.

Austin · May 5, 2013

Cabrera is now leading the AL in 2 of the 3 Triple Crown categories after today's monster game.
He's leading in batting average by 21 points and rbi by 5.

nborton · May 5, 2013

markakis8 said:
Yeah, Jeter, Griffey, Rickey Henderson, and Pujols got the same raw deal to name a few.

How about going with something like his checkered past?

I would kinda agree, but in the sense that's he's not American. I don't think people care about race, but its difficult to connect when a guy doesn't speak English as his first language.

I watch all the games and tons of coverage of the Tigers, and Miggy doesn't get interviewed nearly as much as Verlander or other guys on the team.

Basically it comes down to, he's not as marketable as other guys on the Tigers. Which matters a ton. That's like 50% of Jeter's popularity.

kerryfan5 · May 5, 2013

nborton said:
I would kinda agree, but in the sense that's he's not American. I don't think people care about race, but its difficult to connect when a guy doesn't speak English as his first language.

I watch all the games and tons of coverage of the Tigers, and Miggy doesn't get interviewed nearly as much as Verlander or other guys on the team.

Basically it comes down to, he's not as marketable as other guys on the Tigers. Which matters a ton. That's like 50% of Jeter's popularity.

And jeter has multiple World Series wins. And plays in big games that make him an icon.

WJCIII · May 5, 2013

ThoseBackPages said:
Miggy's main hobby issue is that he is not Caucasian

Correct, he's not caucasian like the player whose autos are consistently the highest on the market for active players, Ichiro, the hottest prospect of the offseason, Taveras, or the hottest card to begin this season, Justin Upton. I hate to tell people but race isn't a factor when it comes to collecting anymore. People care about the town they play in, the stats they put up, whether their team wins, and how the player treats people. Cabrera's problem is he plays in Detroit.

To get back on topic, Cabrera will pass Pujols.

ThoseBackPages · May 5, 2013

PSA 5 Mantle RC ~$3500
PSA 5 Mays RC ~$700

Someone please convince me that Mantle was FIVE times better then Willie Mays.

Race most certainly IS a factor in the hobby

WJCIII · May 5, 2013

ThoseBackPages said:
PSA 5 Mantle RC ~$3500
PSA 5 Mays RC ~$700

Someone please convince me that Mantle was FIVE times better then Willie Mays.

Race most certainly IS a factor in the hobby

Mantle played in New York for the most popular sports team in U.S. history and his 1952 Topps is arguably the most recognizable card in the history of sports cards. If you're going to be fair then please also point out that Mantle far outsells, often times by more than 5 times, Ted Williams, Ed Mathews, Stan Musial, Hank Aaron, Ernie Banks, and every other player from his era.

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