What letter of the alphabet can boast the best team?

scotty216brs · Mar 21, 2014

I'll try a C team, reserves in parenthesis:

C: Roy Campanella (Mickey Cochrane)
1B: Rod Carew (Orlando Cepeda/Will Clark...mix and match any of these 3)
2B: Eddie Collins (Robinson Cano)
SS: Joe Cronin (Dave Conception)
3B: Miguel Cabrera (Jimmy Collins)
LF: Joe Carter (Carl Crawford)
CF: Ty Cobb (Ben Chapman)
RF: Sam Crawford (Roberto Clemente)
SP: Roger Clemens (Steve Carlton)
RP: Francisco Cordero (Aroldis Chapman...Cordero has the longer track record)

Manager: Bobby Cox

Did I miss anyone?

EDIT: I only put players at the position they played the majority of their games at.

Anthony K. · Mar 21, 2014

I'll use the same letter of my last name, K:

C- King Kelley
1B- Harmon Killebrew
2B- Jeff Kent
3B- George Kell
SS- Don Kessinger (SS was pretty light in the K's)
OF- Ralph Kiner
OF- Al Kaline
OF- Willie Keeler
SP- Sandy Koufax
SP- Jim Kaat
SP- Clayton Kershaw (Had to get him on the list)
RP- Craig Kimbrel

Lot's of power, lot's of speed. Don't know about the defense, but my top 3 SP is solid as hell and I have a dominant closer.

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 21, 2014

SP Bert "Be Home" Blyleven
C Bench with Yogi Berra getting some games
1B Bagwell
2B Biggio
3B Boggs Brett
SS Banks
LF Bonds
CF Lou Brock or Cool Papa Bell
RF Braun
RP Mordecai Brown

Mangaer and occasional SS Lou Boudreau

cjedmonton · Mar 21, 2014

Great thread!

J

MGR: Davey Johnson
RHP: Walter Johnson
LHP: Randy Johnson
CL: Todd Jones
C: Charles Johnson
1B: Wally Joyner
2B: Kelly Johnson
3B: Chipper Jones
SS: Hugh Jennings
LF: Geoff Jenkins
CF: Andruw Jones
RF: Reggie Jackson

My starting pitching is as dominant as it gets, and while my lineup has some pop (Jones, Jackson), the rest seem to to define the "R" in "WAR".

cjedmonton · Mar 21, 2014

Here's an idea for a fun project to find out for sure which letter would field the most dominant team/manager.

Go through each position and rank them according to hits, wins, home runs, saves, whatever.

Find the highest ranking player for each letter and assign them a score based on their rank.

For example, here's how the top 1,000 saves leaders would stack up:

R 1
H 2
S 3
F 4
W 5
E 6
P 8
M 9
N 11
C 13
J 16
A 17
G 20
I 24
B 26
V 29
Q 33
L 34
U 35
O 40
T 44
K 68
D 95
Y 306
Z 363
X -

jay1065 · Mar 21, 2014

scotty216brs said:
What, no Paul Waner in RF??? Terrible omission, Jay! Final grade: D-

EDIT: I'd also put Billy Wagner in at RP, too.

Haha, I know. That was a tough choice. I went with the "he was one of my favorites growing up" choice....and some more power. Williams and Winfield back-to-back would be pretty intimidating.

But Cabrera over Collins? Please relinquish any and all Red Sox items now.

Hendersonfan · Mar 21, 2014

O. Jose Oquendo can play every position.

MrMet · Mar 21, 2014

Hendersonfan said:
O. Jose Oquendo can play every position.

Mel Ott, Tony Olivo, John Olerud, Bobby Ojeda, Roy Oswalt...

Nate Colbert 17 · Mar 21, 2014

My C team...with obvious biases...

C Roy Campanella
C Mickey Cochrane
1B Nate Colbert (obviously)
1B Fank Chance
2B Rod Carew
2B Eddie Collins
SS Jamey Carroll (Evansville grad)
SS Joe Cronin
3B Jimmy Collins
OF Ty Cobb
OF Oscar Charleston (***** Leagues)
OF Roberto Clemente
OF Sam Crawford
SP Steve Carlton
SP Jack Chesbro
SP Stan Covaleski
SP Andy Cooper (***** Leagues)
RP Clay Carroll

aarne13 · Mar 21, 2014

RF. Aaron, Hank
CF. Ashburn, Richie
LF. Alou, Moises
3B. Alfonzo, edgardo
SS. Appling, Luke
2B. Alomar, Roberto
1B. Anson, Cap
C. Ausmus, Brad.
P. Alexander, Grover

Manager: Sparky Anderson

scotty216brs · Mar 22, 2014

jay1065 said:
Haha, I know. That was a tough choice. I went with the "he was one of my favorites growing up" choice....and some more power. Williams and Winfield back-to-back would be pretty intimidating.

But Cabrera over Collins? Please relinquish any and all Red Sox items now.

Haha! I had Collins as my starter but I figured I would take a lot of flak for not having Cabrera there instead. I shouldn't have tried to please the masses. =P

jbhofmann · Mar 22, 2014

C- Todd Hundley
1B- Ryan Howard
2B-

H's blow...

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 22, 2014

jbhofmann said:
C- Todd Hundley
1B- Ryan Howard
2B-

H's blow...

LSP Carl Hubbell
RSP Catfish Hunter
C Gabby Hartnett
1B Todd Helton
2B Rogers Hornsby
3B Toby Harrah?
SS J.J. Hardy (I don't even mind this, he has a way better glove than he credits for because he's not flashy)
LF Rickey Henderson
CF Billy Hamilton The Original.
RF Harry Heilmann
RP Trevor Hoffman

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 22, 2014

cjedmonton said:
Here's an idea for a fun project to find out for sure which letter would field the most dominant team/manager.

Go through each position and rank them according to hits, wins, home runs, saves, whatever.

Find the highest ranking player for each letter and assign them a score based on their rank.

For example, here's how the top 1,000 saves leaders would stack up:

R 1
H 2
S 3
F 4
W 5
E 6
P 8
M 9
N 11
C 13
J 16
A 17
G 20
I 24
B 26
V 29
Q 33
L 34
U 35
O 40
T 44
K 68
D 95
Y 306
Z 363
X -

This is one of the best arguments I have seen in favor of WAR or JAWS. In no way will this determine anything. Is Billy Koch more dominant than Craig Kimbrel because he has more career saves? Does their standing on the all times saves list make Roberto Hernandez, Todd Jones and Jose Mesa three of the most dominant closers ever? Ugueth Urbina might be the best closer with a U not named Koji Uehara, and Valverde the best with a V, but your system has those letters assigned a 29 and 35 because of them, so they're twice as dominant as K at 68 with Billy Koch, and that's only because Billy Koch has more saves than Kimbrel that we use Koch? Was Trevor Hoffman more dominant than Mo up until the day that Mo passed him on the saves list? One stat category does not determine a better player.

jay1065 · Mar 22, 2014

jbhofmann said:
C- Todd Hundley
1B- Ryan Howard
2B-

H's blow...

Orel Hershiser
Trevor Hoffman
Harry Hooper
Torii Hunter
Miller Huggins
Dick Hoblitzell

cjedmonton · Mar 22, 2014

[MENTION=11328]RedSoxNationMT[/MENTION]

I couldn't agree with you more.

Keep in mind that this is purely a fantasy lineup, and has absolutely nothing to do with advanced metrics, head-to-head comparisons, etc.... It's not even a debate of who the best players are at each position!

I could run a separate list using WAR,JAWS,PECOTA,ZIPS,K/9IP,Blown Saves, etc..., and it would still be nothing more than a fun exercise in determining the general "strength" of a surname's prefix.

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 22, 2014

LSP Andy Pettitte
RSP Jim Palmer over Gaylord Perry
C Mike Piazza
1B Albert Pujols
2B Dustin Pedroia
3B Terry Pendleton? Pujols does have over 100 games played here. Palmeiro at 1B?
SS Rico Petrocelli and Dustin Pedroia as a Double Play combo. Can't beat that.
LF Lou Pinella as our player/manager? Vada Pinson played CF but could handle the job.
CF Kirby Puckett
RF Dave Parker
RP Jonathan Papelbon

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 22, 2014

UMich92 said:
I think the letter R could be very good. Though it seems to be lacking at 1B.

OF - Ruth, Frank Robinson, Jim Rice
1B - Bob Robertson (?!?), There's got to be somebody better than that. Heck, how about Anthony Rizzo)
2B - Jackie Robinson
3B - Brooks Robinson
SS - Ripken
C - Ivan Rodriguez
P - Ryan

Pete Rose?

UMich92 · Mar 29, 2014

Can't believe I overlooked Rose. Either at OF or 1B with Frank Robinson at the other.

olerudfan · Apr 16, 2014

MrMet said:
Mel Ott, Tony Olivo, John Olerud, Bobby Ojeda, Roy Oswalt...

Plus David Ortiz, Rey Ordonez, Magglio Ordonez, Paul O'Neil, Darren Oliver, Blue Moon Odom, Lyle Overbay,

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