Probstein & bbcardsniper AKA Brad Ziegler EXPOSED

mudflap02 · Jan 18, 2016

I sold him the Musial barrel. Very professional and easy high end deal. Speaking from my experience, very positive overall.

predatorkj · Jan 18, 2016

16christensen16 said:
He has routinely been a butt and hard to deal with when he tries to buy a card from you personally. Insults and attacks are the norm

So he's like any other normal collector then?

cgilmo · Jan 19, 2016

mudflap02 said:
I sold him the Musial barrel. Very professional and easy high end deal. Speaking from my experience, very positive overall.

well, he pretty much got his way on that deal

mlbsalltimegreats · Jan 19, 2016

cgilmo said:
well, he pretty much got his way on that deal

This is true!

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predatorkj · Jan 19, 2016

Just finished reading the thread. Pretty sad...

Pastretta · Jan 19, 2016

Soooooo what should I do? He goes to the LCS one mile from my house. If I run into him there say, "Is this true?" or just mind my own business and let it play out on the interwebs?

On a side note I haven't been on here a long took the red pill and been on Blowout...Gilmore brought be back with his post about this whole thin on Facebook

-Chris

16christensen16 · Jan 19, 2016

predatorkj said:
So he's like any other normal collector then?

well not the people I deal with. I do not deal cards to people who are not friendly back to me. I always try and treat people with respect. The collectors closest to me are very nice to work with. I would not consider his behavior 'normal'

homerun28aa · Jan 19, 2016

Wow, thanks to the OP for sharing. That makes sense in hindsight but definitely wasn't expecting Ziegler to be behind any of those accounts.

homerun28aa · Jan 19, 2016

For what it's worth I did one deal with him and he pretty much gave me market price on a ~$500 patch card, didn't have any problems with him and hadn't really heard anything negative beforehand.

phillyfan0417 · Jan 19, 2016

homerun28aa said:
For what it's worth I did one deal with him and he pretty much gave me market price on a ~$500 patch card, didn't have any problems with him and hadn't really heard anything negative beforehand.

This is all very strange. It seems like this would be the last thing you'd expect from a dude in his position. Its really a shame...

IUjapander · Jan 19, 2016

For those wanting cliff notes from the other thread.

He set his feedback to private some time last night.

I would understand if he had done this from the git go due to the amount he spends. But him doing it at this juncture is like OJ in the Bronco. Pretty much admitting guilt.

The only two players who I will be actively rooting against for the rest of their careers.

1. Alex Rodriguez
2. Brad Ziegler

Nate Colbert 17 · Jan 19, 2016

So...does anyone else think Mouschi needs to do a "Supershiller" custom?

alexs64 · Jan 19, 2016

Nate Colbert 17 said:
So...does anyone else think Mouschi needs to do a "Supershiller" custom?

With a bat barrel that instead of his number shows "A++++++"

homerun28aa · Jan 19, 2016

phillyfan0417 said:
This is all very strange. It seems like this would be the last thing you'd expect from a dude in his position. Its really a shame...

I guess assuming all allegations are true it just comes down to pure greed. Being an MLB player made it really easy for him to make connections, also just because of the capital he was working with and the PC he had it was easy for him to be liked/trusted by fellow collectors. At some point he must have realized the opportunity he had and really took advantage of it. It sucks when the hobby is disgraced by an MLB player.

homerun28aa · Jan 19, 2016

phillyfan0417 said:
This is all very strange. It seems like this would be the last thing you'd expect from a dude in his position. Its really a shame...

For me patch fakers are still the worst, but shilling is really low in my opinion.

Pinbreaker · Jan 19, 2016

homerun28aa said:
For me patch fakers are still the worst, but shilling is really low in my opinion.

Patch Fakers, Pack Searchers, and then Shillers..

chris19978 · Jan 19, 2016

This is why I snipe as I have a set price on all cards I want if I have it I will do a max snipe. I have less than 500 cards I want left and I will never get them all so if I lose on my snipe bid than I lose. If I have a card I am not willing to let go but for a certain price it will never go on auction so if you want it the only way to get it is pay what I am asking or trade. Everything that goes on auction I don't care about so if I get $1.00 or $500.00 I am happy with it. I have sold some cards I felt were worth a lot more and sold others I didn't think were worth as much as they sold for so it evens out.

DiebytheCubs · Jan 19, 2016

Pastretta said:
Soooooo what should I do? He goes to the LCS one mile from my house. If I run into him there say, "Is this true?" or just mind my own business and let it play out on the interwebs?

On a side note I haven't been on here a long took the red pill and been on Blowout...Gilmore brought be back with his post about this whole thin on Facebook

-Chris

I would let this play out online. Probably best to totally avoid it if you run into him

Hand delivered via the Pony Express

predatorkj · Jan 19, 2016

16christensen16 said:
well not the people I deal with. I do not deal cards to people who are not friendly back to me. I always try and treat people with respect. The collectors closest to me are very nice to work with. I would not consider his behavior 'normal'

It was said in jest. Honestly, I run into some crazy sellers. Really, most of the collectors I meet are quiet about what they collect. I go to the LCS, spend 2 hours BS'ing with people, and then get back in my car to go home and realize we never even spoke about our collection or what we collect or anything. Kinda odd. Better than hanging around the bar I guess.

Therion · Jan 19, 2016

predatorkj said:
It was said in jest. Honestly, I run into some crazy sellers. Really, most of the collectors I meet are quiet about what they collect. I go to the LCS, spend 2 hours BS'ing with people, and then get back in my car to go home and realize we never even spoke about our collection or what we collect or anything. Kinda odd. Better than hanging around the bar I guess.

Which LCS do you use? I've found very few in Houston so far.

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