MONSTER - Josh Johnson/Buehrle/Reyes to TOR For Alvarez/Escobar/Hechavarria/Nicolino/Marisnick

James52411 · Nov 13, 2012

The Jays probably did this deal because they have a tough time attracting premium free agents like Reyes or even guys like Bueherle. They probably are getting these guys on terms superior to what they'd have to pay to sign them in Toronto. As a baseball fan, I could care less about financial commitments unless they cause ownership to be unwilling to add salary. The Jays obviously decided to make a financial commitment to win (Rogers is probably looking to juice viewership). Getting two solid middle of the rotation guys (JJ could be more in the 2nd year after an injury) and a premium shortstop is a better use of money than overpaying in a weak free agent class.

Right now, the Red Sox are a pretty clear pick for last place in the AL East.

Hallsgator · Nov 13, 2012

HPC said:
I think the reason they did this was because they didnt sign Albert.

He was their main goal and the reason they acquired guys like Reyes and Buehrle: to show Pujols they were serious about winning.

Then, they didnt and have now fire-traded the team off.

Again, all 700 Marlins fans should be pissed off beyond belief at a lying team who only wanted a new stadium and the benefits of that.

Except is wasn't only 700 fans that paid for it, it was every tax payer in Miami. Loria is a XXXXing joke for lying to the city and doing crap like this. Public funding for stadiums is bad enough, but when the owner pulls something like this, it's criminal.

James52411 · Nov 13, 2012

The local officials in Miami Dade were morons to sign that deal, and doing so relying on the word of Marlins ownership without verifying their finances was essentially fiscal malpractice.

BBCgalaxee · Nov 13, 2012

Re: MONSTER - Josh Johnson, Buehrle, Reyes to Toronto For Alvarez/Escobar/Hechavarria/Nicolino

Wait hold on there.

The marlins spent $239,365,421,563.53 last year on free agents yet was one of the absolute worst teams.

They gotta sue mlb because we all know money buys championships

James52411 · Nov 13, 2012

The one bright spot for Marlins fans is their favorite team will no longer give at bats to Emilio Bonifacio.

elemin8 · Nov 13, 2012

James52411 said:
The Jays probably did this deal because they have a tough time attracting premium free agents like Reyes or even guys like Bueherle. They probably are getting these guys on terms superior to what they'd have to pay to sign them in Toronto. As a baseball fan, I could care less about financial commitments unless they cause ownership to be unwilling to add salary. The Jays obviously decided to make a financial commitment to win (Rogers is probably looking to juice viewership). Getting two solid middle of the rotation guys (JJ could be more in the 2nd year after an injury) and a premium shortstop is a better use of money than overpaying in a weak free agent class.

This is exactly why the Jays did it. People do not understand how much money Rogers Communications has unless you are from Canada. It's not like the Jays can't afford these players its attracting these guys. I read recently that Upton put Toronto on his no-trade list so this is a great way to get the stars we need as well as attract others. As a Jays fan I am pumped for next year and just bought season tickets cause of it. First time I have felt good about this team since early 90's.

aarne13 · Nov 13, 2012

Anthony DeSclafani is also going to Miami.

hive17 · Nov 13, 2012

I mean this only in half-jest, but if I were the people of Miami, I would sue that ownership for the cost of the stadium. The deal was to spend billions on an MLB team; what they have now is a AAA team at best...

uniquebaseballcards · Nov 13, 2012

MLB should contract two teams, maybe the Marlins are a good candidate for that.

Jaypers · Nov 13, 2012

aarne13 said:
Anthony DeSclafani is also going to Miami.

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nofrills · Nov 13, 2012

I gotta say, I'm sad Alvarez is going to Miami. I loved watching him develop with the Jays, never missed a home start.
Hopefully this will really get him moving.
The Marlins gained at least one "fan" with this trade, but I'll be a Jay's fan forever.

vwnut13 · Nov 13, 2012

Bold prediction: Both Buehlre and Johnson will have blown out their elbow or wrecked their shoulder by July.

Isnt that how it works in Toronto?

AmishDave · Nov 13, 2012

vwnut13 said:
Bold prediction: Both Buehlre and Johnson will have blown out their elbow or wrecked their shoulder by July.

Isnt that how it works in Toronto?

With how much I have into the JJ collection, it wouldn't shock me in the least.

aarne13 · Nov 13, 2012

Sad to see Hech & Nicolino go. Hech should be fun to watch. Just give him the gold glove now. I'm not sold on Marisnick. He is at least a year or two away from the bigs. Alvarez is solid, he just needs a strikeout pitch.

fengzhang · Nov 13, 2012

BBCgalaxee said:
Wait hold on there.

The marlins spent $239,365,421,563.53 last year on free agents yet was one of the absolute worst teams.

They gotta sue mlb because we all know money buys championships

Marlins payroll last season was still just a little over 1/2 the Yankees'.

PeteD · Nov 13, 2012

ronfromfresno said:
Great deal for the Jays but they sure are pinning their hopes on this trade. They're going to be taking on a huge chunk of salary for players who didn't exactly excel in Florida.

Jays are owned by a company the size (and worth) of AT&T, Verizon, Time Warner rolled into one. Mere drop in the bucket.

PeteD · Nov 13, 2012

Jaypers said:
Morosi is reporting Mathis headed to Miami.

What is this love affair with Arencibia, anyway?

Very popular player up here.

MrMet · Nov 13, 2012

Plus the joke of a marlins team already unloaded Heath Bell earlier this off season... Who's left on the team?

AmishDave · Nov 13, 2012

MrMet said:
Plus the joke of a marlins team already unloaded Heath Bell earlier this off season... Who's left on the team?

Stanton, LoMo and then some Cuban's who's ship just came onto shore ...

D-Lite · Nov 13, 2012

How Loria was able to f-up the Expos, unload them on the MLB, and then buy the Marlins is perplexing enough for me. Now they pull this crap and jam the taxpayers too? Selig should neg this trade when it comes to the office for approval. Isn't that what the process is for?

And I agree, this team should be contracted out of baseball. I'll even settle for a 29 team league with the screwed up schedule just to see this team go away. I feel really bad for Marlins fans.

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