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Bill Menard

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I am definitely NOT cool with this. There is no way anyone should be able to just walk away from the thread after taking something. Everyone knew the deal on how this worked before they claimed something. I fully expect every participant to pay it back if they took something and owe.
Fine by me and IMO I don't even care if everyone is square at an even number. But there is a huge lack of intent with some people in the thread. That's what might be holding it back
 

SydBarrett

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I'm not sure if these are considered "upper echelon", if they are not feel free to tell me and I will remove them. Honestly, they are just sitting on my desk and have no place in my collection, so I really am not asking for anything in return. Snider is /100.


I don't want to seem like I'm trying to avoid giving something back of equal value for what I took (Miller Bowman's Best Xref DC 20/25), I just don't have much stuff that isn't PC lying around. If you guys want, I will just throw up a $20 gift certificate to eBay, tell me what you want and I will get it shipped to you.
 

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Bill Menard

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I thought about this when I made the thread and wanted to avoid this because I wanted people to be able to take an item they like when it surfaced even if they didn't have something to put up at the time. I still like the idea of keeping it this way, but I'm open to discussion.
Would it be possible to make it a rule that you can't claim something unless you've already offered something up? That might get a few more people on board.
 

Bill Menard

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I don't know value on either of those cards, but I'd have to believe the McCovey falls short and the Snider is more than enough.
I'm not sure if these are considered "upper echelon", if they are not feel free to tell me and I will remove them. Honestly, they are just sitting on my desk and have no place in my collection, so I really am not asking for anything in return. Snider is /100.


I don't want to seem like I'm trying to avoid giving something back of equal value for what I took (Miller Bowman's Best Xref DC 20/25), I just don't have much stuff that isn't PC lying around. If you guys want, I will just throw up a $20 gift certificate to eBay, tell me what you want and I will get it shipped to you.
 

rum151man

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Fine by me and IMO I don't even care if everyone is square at an even number. But there is a huge lack of intent with some people in the thread. That's what might be holding it back

this wouldn't really be fair to people that have put up a lot of items that have been claimed, and have only claimed a few themselves to start back at 0-0. I think im at 12 of my items have been claimed to 7 I claimed, and I know some people have more than that.
 

cubfanbudman

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Upper Echelon --- Free To A Good Home --- Read Post 1 Before You Participate

I believe I'm at 3:3 right now.

Claimed a Sosa jersey from Rum
Santo auto from all the hype
Dawson 4x6 auto from Devin

Items claimed

Hank Aaron TOTT
Ed Mathews SCG
Albert Almora Chrome draft auto

Couple of items not claimed. The Pumpsie Green Heritage auto is gone, the Dawson IP auto I will take down.

The only thing I have still available is the Hoyt Wilhelm SGC
 

Bill Menard

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I cannot check this entire list for who's up or even or behind; however, I mentioned EVERYONE on this list who has "stale" postings. If you have an item on here and you are BEHIND, please replace it as soon as possible with something new. If you are even or up, you can IGNORE this!!! What I don't have access to right now is the list of who is behind and doesn't have something listed to replace what they owe on. I personally know that I am someone who owes 1 card. I think there are a few others. If someone else wants to look at that list and mention others who still owe cards, please do so! Sometimes you hear the phrase, "Don't all jump at once." Well, you won't hear it today - everyone can jump in at the same time and post up stuff to get yourself even with the thread and right with the members you participate with here at FCB.
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[MENTION=1899]rebelpawn[/MENTION]
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Eddie Murray 3000th Hit Ticket Stubs
[MENTION=5875]markotsay7[/MENTION]
13-Feb
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Jesus Montero Bow Plat Auto Redemption
[MENTION=2159]Greg Cleveland[/MENTION]
13-Feb
154

Hank Aaron - Topps
[MENTION=1763]moxacaine[/MENTION]
22-Feb
351

Nolan Ryan - 80 Kelloggs
[MENTION=4618]James52411[/MENTION]
23-Feb
374

Vince Dooley - EEE Auto
[MENTION=2413]MojoDan[/MENTION]
23-Feb
377

Ivory Crockett - Ginter Auto
[MENTION=1845]gracecollector[/MENTION]
1-Mar
533

7 HOFer Card
[MENTION=1953]Musial Collector[/MENTION]
4-Mar
610

Carlos Gonzalez - Ginter Silk /10
Musial Collector
4-Mar
631

Brandon Webb - 09 Bowman Plate
gracecollector
5-Mar
667

Carlos Pena - 13 Turkey Red Auto
[MENTION=4914]gmarutiak[/MENTION]
6-Mar
714

Brandon Webb Sketch Card
moxacaine
9-Mar
846

Carlos Gomez Sketch Card
moxacaine
9-Mar
846

Garrett Gould Orange Chrome
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10-Mar
947

Phil Rizzuto 8x10 Auto HOLY COW
[MENTION=1934]steve-a-reno[/MENTION]
10-Mar
958

Hendricks Benson Parmalee Auto Debut ticket
Musial Collector
11-Mar
990

Musial Killerbrew - Dual Custom Cut Auto
Musial Collector
11-Mar
998

Hanley Ramirez - UD Black auto
MojoDan
11-Mar
1012

Tommy Hanson - Ginter N43 Auto
[MENTION=5406]Keyser Soze[/MENTION]
12-Mar
1078

Hong Chin Keo - Playoff Honors Auto
gracecollector
12-Mar
1094

Bob Feller - 107.9 MPH Auto
[MENTION=1743]wolfmanalfredo[/MENTION]
12-Mar
1125

Darryl Strawberry - Topps Auto
[MENTION=2759]Therion[/MENTION]
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1157

Ian Kennedy - Topps Auto
Therion
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1157

Ty Cobb - Topps Hope Diamond
Therion
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1157

Dan Uggla - UD Patch
Greg Cleveland
12-Mar
1165

Delmon Young - 1/1 Plate
Greg Cleveland
12-Mar
1165

Jim Bunning - Topps Auto
Greg Cleveland
12-Mar
1165

Torres, Miniel, Guzman Topps Reserve Auto Balls
[MENTION=2169]cmixer[/MENTION]
13-Mar
1183

Matt Wieters - EEE Auto
[MENTION=1721]All The Hype[/MENTION]
13-Mar
1216

Red Schoendienst - Reprint Auto SGA
rum151man
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1239

Ken Griffey Jr. - Bleachers 23k Fine Silver Card
moxacaine
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1300

Willie Mays
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Duke Snider
moxacaine
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1300

Roy Campanella
moxacaine
14-Mar
1300

Nellie Fox
moxacaine
14-Mar
1300

Ernie Banks
moxacaine
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1300

2012 Black Swamp 4 card National Conv Set
gmarutiak
14-Mar
1331

Jesus Montero - 11 Ginter Silk /10
[MENTION=2383]highphat[/MENTION]
15-Mar
1351

Jay Bruce - 08 UD Auto
gmarutiak
15-Mar
1369

Amos Strunk - 08 UD Cut Auto /31
gmarutiak
15-Mar
1372

Five 1914 B18 Blankets
gmarutiak
15-Mar
1374

Brooks Robinson Auto Tony Gwynn GU
rebelpawn
15-Mar
1399

Jim Rice - 12 National Treasures Auto
gmarutiak
16-Mar
1405

Harry Hooper - PSA Index Card Auto
MojoDan
16-Mar
1410

Carl Hubbel - Sport Kings Auto
Steve-a-Reno
16-Mar
1462

Sandy Amoros - Topps
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Pee Wee Reese - Topps
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Duke Snider - Auto
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Steve Garvey - UD Auto
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1595

Ray Boone - Topps Cert Auto
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20-Mar
1673

Brandon Nimmo - Gold Refractor
[MENTION=2685]69MetsFan[/MENTION]
20-Mar
1689

Brad Miller - Bowmans Best /25
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21-Mar
1696

Dontrelle Willis - Topps Heritage Auto
[MENTION=2995]mudflap02[/MENTION]
22-Mar
1722

John DeMerit - Topps Heritage Auto
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22-Mar
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Carroll Hardy - Topps Heritage Auto
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22-Mar
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Ed Roebuck - Topps Heritage Auto
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22-Mar
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Tris Speaker - Topps Tier 1 GU Bat
[MENTION=2016]hive17[/MENTION]
22-Mar
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Troy Tulo - Triple Threads /36 GU
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Matt Kemp - Topps Marquee GU
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23-Mar
1746

Danny Hultzen - EEE Auto
[MENTION=7479]Logan2500[/MENTION]
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Stan Musial - Index Card Auto
Musial Collector
24-Mar
1785

Nolan Ryan - Mets Bobble
Musial Collector
24-Mar
1787

Nolan Ryan - Astros Bobble
Musial Collector
24-Mar
1787

Nolan Ryan - Rangers Bobble
Musial Collector
24-Mar
1787

Bob Rush - Topps Heritage Red Auto /60
Mudflap02
24-Mar
1788

Mays and Snider - 58 Topps Fence Busters
Logan2500
25-Mar
1818

Miller Huggins - NT GU Bat
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1872

Mickey Mantle - 1965 Topps Embrossed
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28-Mar
1883

Lou Gehrig - Leaf 1/1 Sketch Card
[MENTION=2055]metallicalex777[/MENTION]
30-Mar
1907

Josh Beckett - 05 Prime Patches Jumbo 1/10
[MENTION=3025]sneekc[/MENTION]
31-Mar
1913

Billy Butler - SGA Jersey
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Bill Menard

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Thank you for clarifying that. It looks like it's probably borderline around $15. That said, I'd say if someone wanted it and was happy to have it, it's fine. I also noticed you said you didn't even care if someone replaced it with something. I'd suggest if someone wanted it, they just PM you about said cards and you send to them off the thread so there is no confusion about them owing something down the road. Of course, handle it however you are comfortable with! I think both cards are a go for a claim and justify a replacement from the claimee.
 

MansGame

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Miller Huggins - NT GU Bat is GONE. The only item I have up still is the large hard back book of Mantle, which I can take down. I am 0:2 or I've sent two cards away and haven't claimed anything at this point.
 

Lancemountain

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I am definitely NOT cool with this. There is no way anyone should be able to just walk away from the thread after taking something. Everyone knew the deal on how this worked before they claimed something. I fully expect every participant to pay it back if they took something and owe.

this wouldn't really be fair to people that have put up a lot of items that have been claimed, and have only claimed a few themselves to start back at 0-0. I think im at 12 of my items have been claimed to 7 I claimed, and I know some people have more than that.

You both misunderstood what I meant. I was trying to say if Gary or one of you or musialcollector or whoever; a person that is active in thread, who cares if they dip under for a few weeks. It's fine.

But it's the people that you both said are the ones that should be encouraged a bit. That's all I was saying. Of course everyone should put something up and the INTENT should be one that is a kind gesture, not a tshirt from a stadium that's already been worn.
 

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I know I am even without it, but I need to take down Wieters Auto as it is involved with a pending trade on another forum. Just FYI to you guys keeping track.
 

SydBarrett

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Brad Miller - Bowmans Best /25


I claimed that card a while ago, and is sitting on my desk, I have offered up as a replacement the following: Brad Miller Refractor Autograph /500, 2012 Jason Heyward National Treasures prime patch /25, 2004 Topps Tribute Willie Mays bat relic, and 2005 Leaf certified Duke Snider autograph /100. Here are scans of every card (sorry don't have a picture of a Miller).
 

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Upper Echelon --- Free To A Good Home --- Read Post 1 Before You Participate

Amazed that Heyward is still available
 

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Re: Upper Echelon --- Free To A Good Home --- Read Post 1 Before You Participate

I will like a shot at the Snider and Mays. But let me post something before to make sure it is ok with the poster. Will do it in the morning if everybody is ok with it. LMK

Spikes

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Musial Collector

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Problems as I see it:

1) things are stale because its the same dozen or so people trading back and forth constantly. If stuff that is posted doesnt interest those dozen or so, the thread falls off of the first page quickly, especially now that the baseball season has begun. How can I help it if my collection consists of HOF type stuff but the people trading back and forth are prospect collectors, or patch collectors, or T206 collectors, etc. I put up what I have available (some of it is high dollar stuff too boot), not my problem if new blood doesnt get in here and claim stuff I have up. The only way I can currently rectify my being behind is asking the dozen or so consistent participants what they collect, go to ebay and buy it and then put them up with an @insertnamehere tag for them to claim it. Thats not fun to do, but I will do it if I have to.

2) this thread should of had the backing of [MENTION=1720]cgilmo[/MENTION] from the start, but I have yet to see him post in here, put stuff up, praise the thread, thank people, etc. Off the top of my head, A_Pharis and maybe one other mod are the only FCB staff to participate in this thread. I ask WHY is that? Why is staff not participating? Why isnt there a push to get others involved? Open giving like this builds up a community. Lack of participation and support by "staff" to me screams they dont care? All you hear about is this site needs traffic traffic traffic. Well, get some involvement by staff and maybe traffic will pick up. Then again, maybe it wont, I really dont know, just speaking out loud here. What I do know is if the dozen or so active participants dont keep trading back and forth, or lots of new blood gets in here quickly, this thread is gonna be dead before the end of the month.

Ill post the updated spreadsheet in here shortly.
 

Musial Collector

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My stats:
Claimed 11
Posted 16
Those posted claimed 8

So I am three behind

I will officially pull my "stale" stuff below and find three new items to post that will hopefully be claimed by the active traders and get me back to even.

<<<REMOVED>>>
7 HOFer CardMusial Collector4-Mar610
Carlos Gonzalez - Ginter Silk /10Musial Collector4-Mar631
Hendricks Benson Parmalee Auto Debut ticketMusial Collector11-Mar990
Musial Killerbrew - Dual Custom Cut AutoMusial Collector11-Mar998
Stan Musial - Index Card AutoMusial Collector24-Mar1785
Nolan Ryan - Mets BobbleMusial Collector24-Mar1787
Nolan Ryan - Astros BobbleMusial Collector24-Mar1787
Nolan Ryan - Rangers BobbleMusial Collector24-Mar1787
 
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