Getting So Tired of these kinds eBay Buyers

jimmyjam1973 · May 16, 2014

I know I don't HAVE to sell on eBay, but since the show situations around the ATL are so poor, this is the only avenue. Anyways, sold this card the other day http://www.ebay.com/itm/121336979011?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649. Buyer messages me before hand and asks condition of the card. I told him I don't grade cards but it's in AT LEAST near mint condition (used to list that in the description but too many buyers think NEAR MINT is BGS 9.5), so now I just say to look at scan for better details. Card had no visible flaws etc, and of course this AM the guy has opened a case stating does not match the description. Claims it has a huge surface scratch right down the middle.

Getting so tired of this. There is nothing I can do, since PAYPAL will always side with the buyer even though this is completely BS! So once again, I'll refund this losers money and block him.

Ashburn Alley · May 16, 2014

What's the buyers eBay name? I'll update my block list.

jimmyjam1973 · May 16, 2014

Ashburn Alley said:
What's the buyers eBay name? I'll update my block list.

38stud

bmc398 · May 16, 2014

jimmyjam1973 said:
I know I don't HAVE to sell on eBay, but since the show situations around the ATL are so poor, this is the only avenue. Anyways, sold this card the other day http://www.ebay.com/itm/121336979011?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649. Buyer messages me before hand and asks condition of the card. I told him I don't grade cards but it's in AT LEAST near mint condition (used to list that in the description but too many buyers think NEAR MINT is BGS 9.5), so now I just say to look at scan for better details. Card had no visible flaws etc, and of course this AM the guy has opened a case stating does not match the description. Claims it has a huge surface scratch right down the middle.

Getting so tired of this. There is nothing I can do, since PAYPAL will always side with the buyer even though this is completely BS! So once again, I'll refund this losers money and block him.

Wait wait wait, you're going to get the card back before you refund him.....right?

You do realize that eBay can't force you to eat the $45 without you getting your card back right?

jimmyjam1973 · May 16, 2014

bmc398 said:
Wait wait wait, you're going to get the card back before you refund him.....right?

You do realize that eBay can't force you to eat the $45 without you getting your card back right?

Nope he's definitely sending it back 1st. Going to make sure I get the SAME card back I sent him. A few months ago I sold someone an unnumbered refractor auto, and guy claims it was OC, scratched etc. He mailed back a different card than I sent. Fought Paypal and lost, even when I compared the scans of what was sold and what i got.

bmc398 · May 16, 2014

jimmyjam1973 said:
Nope he's definitely sending it back 1st. Going to make sure I get the SAME card back I sent him. A few months ago I sold someone an unnumbered refractor auto, and guy claims it was OC, scratched etc. He mailed back a different card than I sent. Fought Paypal and lost, even when I compared the scans of what was sold and what i got.

Its just one of the dangers of the job. I have sold tons of cases of Bowman Chrome autos and NEVER had this happen once though. Must just be bad luck. I just always put that the card is in NRMT or better condition. When people complain I ask them if they can verify the card is worse than NRMT condition. I usually don't hear back from them after that.

jimmyjam1973 · May 16, 2014

bmc398 said:
Its just one of the dangers of the job. I have sold tons of cases of Bowman Chrome autos and NEVER had this happen once though. Must just be bad luck. I just always put that the card is in NRMT or better condition. When people complain I ask them if they can verify the card is worse than NRMT condition. I usually don't hear back from them after that.

I used to say "AT LEAST NEAR MINT", and even said that in the message back to him. I just think buyers are getting pickier and pickier, and if they can't turn raw into 9.5 it's easy to file a claim and get their $$ back.

KLARNOLD · May 16, 2014

Start stating in your auctions that the card is not Gem Mint.

RedSoxSoul · May 16, 2014

I've luckily never had a problem with this, but I always make sure to NOT state anything about the condition of the card. When a buyer asks I say I'm not a grader but look at the scans. Never heard back from anyone. But since I've read a few horror stories in here at least I'm prepared. The only time I feel safe to discuss condition is in the very very few transactions I've done in here because it's at least a little more personal.

jimmyjam1973 · May 20, 2014

Got the card back yesterday, and could not find this HUGE scratch he claimed was on it. Ended up relisting the card.

WaxPax · May 20, 2014

If you selling long enough you're likely to run into these guys, as I'm sure most of us have.

My disclaimer is basically states I offer high quality scans for the buyer to judge condition for themselves.

For the "how does it grade" guy, my canned response is "if you are looking for a BGS 9.5 I recommend you buy one already graded to avoid disappointment".

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Freedom Card Board mobile app

jaydub · May 20, 2014

I don't mention anything about condition in my listings but when asked in ebay message I send this to give base expectation:

*********

I am not a card grader and since your questions are geared towards an evaluation of the card perhaps towards grading I cannot give you a definitive answer. The card looks good to me but I am only willing to state that the card is at a minimum in what is called Mint/Near Mint condition per BGS:

Near Mint/Mint 8

Centering: 60/40 both ways or better on front. 80/20 or better on back. Corners: Sharp to the naked eye, but slight imperfections allowed under close examination. Edges: Relatively smooth borders. Specks of chipping visible to the naked eye are allowed. Surface: A few minor print spots. Very minor color or focus imperfections. Solid gloss with very minor scratches detectable only upon close inspection. Or a subtle metallic print line.

jimmyjam1973 · May 20, 2014

Yeah, I guess next time, I'm going to break out BGS's definition of Near Mint/Mint is.

digicat · May 20, 2014

jimmyjam1973 said:
Claims it has a huge surface scratch right down the middle.

From the scan, it looks like there's a scratch over his glove. Is there one?

jcmint · May 20, 2014

Isn't he a member on here

jimmyjam1973 · May 20, 2014

[MENTION=3852]digicat[/MENTION] - i believe that is on the toploader, but I'll double check again. I looked it card over pretty good last nite and didn't see anything major.
[MENTION=1897]jcmint[/MENTION] - maybe, but I know he's been added to my blocked list.

jcmint · May 20, 2014

Don't blame ya bud

The Collector · May 20, 2014

jimmyjam1973 said:
I know I don't HAVE to sell on eBay, but since the show situations around the ATL are so poor, this is the only avenue. Anyways, sold this card the other day http://www.ebay.com/itm/121336979011?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1561.l2649. Buyer messages me before hand and asks condition of the card. I told him I don't grade cards but it's in AT LEAST near mint condition (used to list that in the description but too many buyers think NEAR MINT is BGS 9.5), so now I just say to look at scan for better details. Card had no visible flaws etc, and of course this AM the guy has opened a case stating does not match the description. Claims it has a huge surface scratch right down the middle.

Getting so tired of this. There is nothing I can do, since PAYPAL will always side with the buyer even though this is completely BS! So once again, I'll refund this losers money and block him.

add the 20% restocking fee to all your auctions, screw buyers like that

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