MansGame
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Obviously would have to get the box prices way down though, just to be clear. I agree that $500 a box is INSANE and no happening.
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If a group break was done by team certain teams would have more players (for example the Rockies have 5 players in the set - Helton, Walker, Bichette, Castilla, and Burks). Other teams would be much more valuable (Mariners with Griffey and Arod). Plus the buy in would get tough for teams such as the White Sox which would pit Mansgame against the Frank Thomas collectors and me against the resident Ellis Burks collector. So you'd more than likely face multiple spots wanted by multiple board members.
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Man I can use more Paul O'neill defractors!
George_Calfas
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I think that it would be best to do sliding scale. NYY/Jeter sell higher than the Marlins. You would have to tinker with the prices to make it right across the board.
FWIW, I would pay higher than $40 for the Cardinals slot. I collect Lankford but McGwire in the team set would be a larger draw.
RStadlerASU22
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Way to many "bum" teams/players to make an individual team or player slot work IMHO. That's unless the boxes were half the list price. I personally think the group breaks that were ran a while back had the groups structured about as fair as possible. But you would have to double-triple those listed prices now. I'll try and go back and pull the ones that Rusty n I ran as I'm curious what they translate to now at $300-450/box vs $150ish then.
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Gwynn545
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3 boxes of 1998 Tek Break?? Hmmm...
What would I pay for 3 common Gwynn base Teks (while knowing an 80% chance I will not need them) and a 5% (4/90) chance of a Gwynn diffractor?
$10? $15? No higher... I'd pay even less if forced to take the entire Padres team!
Now, if I had Jeff King? We're talking big bucks!!!!!!!
What would I pay for 3 common Gwynn base Teks (while knowing an 80% chance I will not need them) and a 5% (4/90) chance of a Gwynn diffractor?
$10? $15? No higher... I'd pay even less if forced to take the entire Padres team!
Now, if I had Jeff King?
We're talking big bucks!!!!!!!- Thread starter
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RustyGreerFan
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I love that we've had three Diffractors not listed as such on ebay in just the past few days. It just goes to show you that there are likely hundreds upon hundreds of unidentified Diffractors out there in dime boxes, deserted collections, and storage. And gotta love those that even PSA can't identify.
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I agree that it is almost impossible to make the $450 price tag work. You need them like more like $150 or $200. I think if you wanted to be serious about it, you could field what people would pay and then see where we finish out. Pulling the historical way we broke it out and prices would help.
In a three box break, if we needed to step up $ wise, I would pay $40 for just the rights to Belle.
In a three box break, if we needed to step up $ wise, I would pay $40 for just the rights to Belle.
MansGame
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Just curious, what is the price tag for a Gywnn diffractor? I think you have to take into account that when thinking about these box breaks... at least I am when it comes to Belle. Not to mention if you were to get super lucky and get a base pattern you've been in search of.3 boxes of 1998 Tek Break?? Hmmm...
What would I pay for 3 common Gwynn base Teks (while knowing an 80% chance I will not need them) and a 5% (4/90) chance of a Gwynn diffractor?
$10? $15? No higher... I'd pay even less if forced to take the entire Padres team!
Now, if I had Jeff King?
RStadlerASU22
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Here is how mine was ran just over 2 years ago for reference. This was for 6 boxes and it looks like the total with shipping etc in for the lots was about $1000. Again, that was for 6 boxes. I actually had forgot I had done it this was with 9 lots. Each lot being cards 1-10, 11-20, 21-30 etc. then we had a week or so where members made trades, contacted others to go in on the lots etc. It wasn't the easiest thing to fill as many people are player specific, but enough group buys/traded occurred to make it work. You'd have to double these prices if you could find 6 boxes at $300 each. That's quite a jump and I personally don't see that # working.....
LOT 1 - $125
1 Ben Grieve
2 Kerry Wood
3 Barry Bonds
4 John Olerud
5 Ivan Rodriguez
6 Frank Thomas
7 Bernie Williams
8 Dante Bichette
9 Alex Rodriguez
10 Tom Glavine
LOT 2 - $200
11 Eric Karros
12 Craig Biggio
13 Mark McGwire
14 Derek Jeter
15 Nomar Garciaparra
16 Brady Anderson
17 Vladimir Guerrero
18 Dave Justice
19 Chipper Jones
20 Jim Edmonds
LOT 3 - $150
21 Roger Clemens
22 Mark Kotsay
23 Tony Gwynn
24 Todd Walker
25 Tino Martinez
26 Andruw Jones
27 Sandy Alomar
28 Sammy Sosa
29 Gary Sheffield
30 Ken Griffey
LOT 4 - $87
31 Aramis Ramirez
32 Curt Schilling
33 Robin Ventura
34 Larry Walker
35 Darin Erstad
36 Todd Dunwoody
37 Paul O'Neill
38 Vinny Castilla
39 Randy Johnson
40 Rafael Palmeiro
42 Derek Bell
46 Edgar Renteria
LOT 5 - $78
41 Pedro Martinez
43 Carlos Delgado
44 Matt Williams
45 Kenny Lofton
47 Albert Belle
48 Jeromy Burnitz
49 Adrian Beltre
50 Greg Maddux
LOT 6 - $150
51 Cal Ripken
52 Jason Kendall
53 Ellis Burks
54 Paul Molitor
55 Moises Alou
56 Raul Mondesi
57 Barry Larkin
58 Tony Clark
59 Travis Lee
60 Juan Gonzalez
LOT 7 - $65
61 Troy Glaus
62 Jose Cruz
63 Paul Konerko
64 Edgar Martinez
65 Javy Lopez
66 Manny Ramirez
67 Roberto Alomar
68 Ken Caminiti
69 Todd Helton
70 Chuck Knoblauch
LOT 8 - $80
71 Kevin Brown
72 Tim Salmon
73 Orlando Hernandez
74 Jeff Bagwell
75 Brian Jordan
76 Derrek Lee
77 Brad Fullmer
78 Mark Grace
79 Jeff King
80 Mike Mussina
LOT 9 - $80
81 Jay Buhner
82 Quinton McCracken
83 A.J. Hinch
84 Richard Hidalgo
85 Andres Galarraga
86 Mike Piazza
87 Mo Vaughn
88 Scott Rolen
89 Jim Thome
90 Ray Lankford
LOT 1 - $125
1 Ben Grieve
2 Kerry Wood
3 Barry Bonds
4 John Olerud
5 Ivan Rodriguez
6 Frank Thomas
7 Bernie Williams
8 Dante Bichette
9 Alex Rodriguez
10 Tom Glavine
LOT 2 - $200
11 Eric Karros
12 Craig Biggio
13 Mark McGwire
14 Derek Jeter
15 Nomar Garciaparra
16 Brady Anderson
17 Vladimir Guerrero
18 Dave Justice
19 Chipper Jones
20 Jim Edmonds
LOT 3 - $150
21 Roger Clemens
22 Mark Kotsay
23 Tony Gwynn
24 Todd Walker
25 Tino Martinez
26 Andruw Jones
27 Sandy Alomar
28 Sammy Sosa
29 Gary Sheffield
30 Ken Griffey
LOT 4 - $87
31 Aramis Ramirez
32 Curt Schilling
33 Robin Ventura
34 Larry Walker
35 Darin Erstad
36 Todd Dunwoody
37 Paul O'Neill
38 Vinny Castilla
39 Randy Johnson
40 Rafael Palmeiro
42 Derek Bell
46 Edgar Renteria
LOT 5 - $78
41 Pedro Martinez
43 Carlos Delgado
44 Matt Williams
45 Kenny Lofton
47 Albert Belle
48 Jeromy Burnitz
49 Adrian Beltre
50 Greg Maddux
LOT 6 - $150
51 Cal Ripken
52 Jason Kendall
53 Ellis Burks
54 Paul Molitor
55 Moises Alou
56 Raul Mondesi
57 Barry Larkin
58 Tony Clark
59 Travis Lee
60 Juan Gonzalez
LOT 7 - $65
61 Troy Glaus
62 Jose Cruz
63 Paul Konerko
64 Edgar Martinez
65 Javy Lopez
66 Manny Ramirez
67 Roberto Alomar
68 Ken Caminiti
69 Todd Helton
70 Chuck Knoblauch
LOT 8 - $80
71 Kevin Brown
72 Tim Salmon
73 Orlando Hernandez
74 Jeff Bagwell
75 Brian Jordan
76 Derrek Lee
77 Brad Fullmer
78 Mark Grace
79 Jeff King
80 Mike Mussina
LOT 9 - $80
81 Jay Buhner
82 Quinton McCracken
83 A.J. Hinch
84 Richard Hidalgo
85 Andres Galarraga
86 Mike Piazza
87 Mo Vaughn
88 Scott Rolen
89 Jim Thome
90 Ray Lankford
RStadlerASU22
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And here is how RGF/Erik's(hope I remembered that right) was done. It was 2.5 years ago. 7 slots/$130 Each.
Ryan
Lot 1 - U L Washington Rookie - PAID
Astros - Biggio, Randy Johnson, DBell, Alou, Bagwell, Hidalgo
Braves - Glavine(traded), Justice(traded), Chipper(traded), Andruw, Maddux, Javy Lopez, Galarraga
*ACQUIRED - Pedro Martinez, Mo Vaughn, Vladi
Lot 2 - <font color="red">BenG76/George_Calfas - PAID
Cardinals - McGwire, BJordan, Lankford
Cubs - KWood, Sosa, Grace
Brewers - Burnitz
D-Rays – McCracken
Blue Jays - Clemens, Delgado, Cruz Jr
A's - Grieve, Hinch
Lot 3 -<font color="red">wlalocal71 - PAID
Giants – Bonds
Indians - Sandy, Lofton, Manny, Thome
Reds - Larkin, Konerko
D-Backs - MWilliams, Travis Lee
Dodgers - Karros, Sheff, Beltre, Mondesi
Lot 4 - <font color="red">RustyGreerFan - PAID
M's - A-Rod, Griffey, Edgar, Buhner
Rangers - Pudge, Juan Gone
Marlins - Kotsay, Dunwoody, Renteria, DLee
Expos - Vladi(traded), Fullmer
*ACQUIRED - Chipper
Lot 5 - <font color="red">Gwynn545 - PAID
Orioles - Brady, Palmeiro, Ripken, RAlomar, Mussina
Padres - Gwynn, Caminiti, KBrown
Phils - Schilling, Rolen
Pirates - Aramis, Kendall
Royals - JKing
Lot 6 - <font color="red">braves3331 - PAID
Yanks - Bernie, Jeter, Tino, O'Neill, OHernandez
Red Sox - Nomar, Pedro Martinez(traded), Mo(traded)
Rockies - Dante, LWalker, Vinny, Burks, Helton
*ACQUIRED - Glavine, Justice
Lot 7 - <font color="red">rinkrat38 - PAID
White Sox - Frank, Ventura, Belle
Mets - Olerud, Piazza
Angels - Edmonds, Erstad, Glaus, Salmon
Twins - TWalker, Molitor, Knoblauch
Tigers - TClark
Ryan
Lot 1 - U L Washington Rookie - PAID
Astros - Biggio, Randy Johnson, DBell, Alou, Bagwell, Hidalgo
Braves - Glavine(traded), Justice(traded), Chipper(traded), Andruw, Maddux, Javy Lopez, Galarraga
*ACQUIRED - Pedro Martinez, Mo Vaughn, Vladi
Lot 2 - <font color="red">BenG76/George_Calfas - PAID
Cardinals - McGwire, BJordan, Lankford
Cubs - KWood, Sosa, Grace
Brewers - Burnitz
D-Rays – McCracken
Blue Jays - Clemens, Delgado, Cruz Jr
A's - Grieve, Hinch
Lot 3 -<font color="red">wlalocal71 - PAID
Giants – Bonds
Indians - Sandy, Lofton, Manny, Thome
Reds - Larkin, Konerko
D-Backs - MWilliams, Travis Lee
Dodgers - Karros, Sheff, Beltre, Mondesi
Lot 4 - <font color="red">RustyGreerFan - PAID
M's - A-Rod, Griffey, Edgar, Buhner
Rangers - Pudge, Juan Gone
Marlins - Kotsay, Dunwoody, Renteria, DLee
Expos - Vladi(traded), Fullmer
*ACQUIRED - Chipper
Lot 5 - <font color="red">Gwynn545 - PAID
Orioles - Brady, Palmeiro, Ripken, RAlomar, Mussina
Padres - Gwynn, Caminiti, KBrown
Phils - Schilling, Rolen
Pirates - Aramis, Kendall
Royals - JKing
Lot 6 - <font color="red">braves3331 - PAID
Yanks - Bernie, Jeter, Tino, O'Neill, OHernandez
Red Sox - Nomar, Pedro Martinez(traded), Mo(traded)
Rockies - Dante, LWalker, Vinny, Burks, Helton
*ACQUIRED - Glavine, Justice
Lot 7 - <font color="red">rinkrat38 - PAID
White Sox - Frank, Ventura, Belle
Mets - Olerud, Piazza
Angels - Edmonds, Erstad, Glaus, Salmon
Twins - TWalker, Molitor, Knoblauch
Tigers - TClark
Had some time tonight to catalog what I have from this set for trade (need Rockies teks and Rockies diffractors):
base set:
1 Ben Grieve pattern 16, 64
2 Kerry Wood pattern 85
3 Barry Bonds pattern 2, 30
5 Ivan Rodriguez pattern 3, 15, 29, 36, 64
6 Frank Thomas pattern 82
7 Bernie Williams pattern 15
10 Tom Glavine pattern 41
11 Eric Karros pattern 31, 63,
12 Craig Biggio pattern 30, 67
13 Mark Mcgwire pattern 71
14 Derek Jeter pattern 78
15 Nomar Garciaparra pattern 10, 49, 55
16 Brady Anderson pattern 6, 41
18 David Justice pattern 10, 85
19 Chipper Jones pattern 63, 74
20 Jim Edmonds pattern 9, 14, 17, 27, 52 (x2), 68
21 Roger Clemens pattern 19, 74
23 Tony Gwynn pattern 41, 84
24 Todd Walker pattern 60, 73, 75, 83
25 Tino Martinez pattern 3
26 Andruw Jones pattern 40, 70, 83
27 Sandy Alomar pattern 48
28 Sammy Sosa pattern 14, 59
29 Gary Sheffield pattern 7, 33, 48, 55, 60, 63, 65
30 Ken Griffey Jr. pattern 40
31 Aramis Ramirez pattern 27
33 Robin Ventura pattern 25
35 Darin Erstad pattern 27, 88
36 Todd Dunwoody pattern 47
37 Paul O'Neill pattern 47, 85
42 Derek Bell pattern 3, 33
43 Carlos Delgado pattern 15
44 Matt Williams pattern 48
45 Kenny Lofton pattern 49
46 Edgar Renteria pattern 59, 87
47 Albert Belle pattern 33, 58
49 Adrian Beltre pattern 5
50 Greg Maddux pattern 18, 20, 78
52 Jason Kendall pattern 2
54 Paul Molitor pattern 14, 22, 34, 49, 55, 73, 83
55 Moises Alou pattern 63
56 Raul Mondesi pattern 12, 15, 72, 83
57 Barry Larkin pattern 68
58 Tony Clark pattern 73
60 Juan Gonzalez pattern 73, 74, 88
61 Troy Glaus pattern 24, 50, 65, 72,
62 Jose Cruz Jr. pattern 17, 48, 76
63 Paul Konerko pattern 43, 46
64 Edgar Martinez pattern 13, 14, 77
65 Javy Lopez pattern 40, 46, 49
66 Manny Ramirez pattern 10, 19, 29, 30, 54
67 Roberto Alomar pattern 31, 45, 50
68 Ken Caminiti pattern 19, 27
70 Chuck Knoblauch pattern 17, 19
71 Kevin Brown pattern 22, 59
72 Tim Salmon pattern 14, 74, 88
74 Jeff Bagwell pattern 6, 39, 76
75 Brian Jordan pattern 17, 57
76 Derrek Lee pattern 8, 22, 79, 82, 84
77 Brad Fullmer pattern 13
78 Mark Grace pattern 5, 7, 19, 38, 64, 77, 84
79 Jeff King pattern 48, 63, 65
80 Mike Mussina pattern 7, 17, 87
82 Quinton McCracken pattern 7, 44, 55, 67
83 A.J. Hinch pattern 6
84 Richard Hidalgo pattern 29, 48, 71
85 Andres Galarraga pattern 41, 73
86 Mike Piazza pattern 75
90 Ray Lankford pattern 2
Diffractors:
44 Matt Williams pattern 28
49 Adrian Beltre pattern 39
56 Raul Mondesi pattern 20
76 Derrek Lee pattern 19
base set:
1 Ben Grieve pattern 16, 64
2 Kerry Wood pattern 85
3 Barry Bonds pattern 2, 30
5 Ivan Rodriguez pattern 3, 15, 29, 36, 64
6 Frank Thomas pattern 82
7 Bernie Williams pattern 15
10 Tom Glavine pattern 41
11 Eric Karros pattern 31, 63,
12 Craig Biggio pattern 30, 67
13 Mark Mcgwire pattern 71
14 Derek Jeter pattern 78
15 Nomar Garciaparra pattern 10, 49, 55
16 Brady Anderson pattern 6, 41
18 David Justice pattern 10, 85
19 Chipper Jones pattern 63, 74
20 Jim Edmonds pattern 9, 14, 17, 27, 52 (x2), 68
21 Roger Clemens pattern 19, 74
23 Tony Gwynn pattern 41, 84
24 Todd Walker pattern 60, 73, 75, 83
25 Tino Martinez pattern 3
26 Andruw Jones pattern 40, 70, 83
27 Sandy Alomar pattern 48
28 Sammy Sosa pattern 14, 59
29 Gary Sheffield pattern 7, 33, 48, 55, 60, 63, 65
30 Ken Griffey Jr. pattern 40
31 Aramis Ramirez pattern 27
33 Robin Ventura pattern 25
35 Darin Erstad pattern 27, 88
36 Todd Dunwoody pattern 47
37 Paul O'Neill pattern 47, 85
42 Derek Bell pattern 3, 33
43 Carlos Delgado pattern 15
44 Matt Williams pattern 48
45 Kenny Lofton pattern 49
46 Edgar Renteria pattern 59, 87
47 Albert Belle pattern 33, 58
49 Adrian Beltre pattern 5
50 Greg Maddux pattern 18, 20, 78
52 Jason Kendall pattern 2
54 Paul Molitor pattern 14, 22, 34, 49, 55, 73, 83
55 Moises Alou pattern 63
56 Raul Mondesi pattern 12, 15, 72, 83
57 Barry Larkin pattern 68
58 Tony Clark pattern 73
60 Juan Gonzalez pattern 73, 74, 88
61 Troy Glaus pattern 24, 50, 65, 72,
62 Jose Cruz Jr. pattern 17, 48, 76
63 Paul Konerko pattern 43, 46
64 Edgar Martinez pattern 13, 14, 77
65 Javy Lopez pattern 40, 46, 49
66 Manny Ramirez pattern 10, 19, 29, 30, 54
67 Roberto Alomar pattern 31, 45, 50
68 Ken Caminiti pattern 19, 27
70 Chuck Knoblauch pattern 17, 19
71 Kevin Brown pattern 22, 59
72 Tim Salmon pattern 14, 74, 88
74 Jeff Bagwell pattern 6, 39, 76
75 Brian Jordan pattern 17, 57
76 Derrek Lee pattern 8, 22, 79, 82, 84
77 Brad Fullmer pattern 13
78 Mark Grace pattern 5, 7, 19, 38, 64, 77, 84
79 Jeff King pattern 48, 63, 65
80 Mike Mussina pattern 7, 17, 87
82 Quinton McCracken pattern 7, 44, 55, 67
83 A.J. Hinch pattern 6
84 Richard Hidalgo pattern 29, 48, 71
85 Andres Galarraga pattern 41, 73
86 Mike Piazza pattern 75
90 Ray Lankford pattern 2
Diffractors:
44 Matt Williams pattern 28
49 Adrian Beltre pattern 39
56 Raul Mondesi pattern 20
76 Derrek Lee pattern 19
Gwynn545
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Someone's been opening some packs! PM sent!
Nope no packs opened in years =(
Just my ongoing inventory since 1998 of this stuff =)
rinkrat38
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Even if Eddie 'dropped' his asking price to $300.00 per box, I can't see paying that. I would be far better off paying $100.00 each on eBay for three star diffractors that I needed, and I've never paid that much for a diffractor. Might pick up three or four commons that someone else can use in a box, but that's a big payout with an almost zero chance of even coming close to getting my money back. I enjoy cracking boxes, but I would be way overpaying for the privilege.
Was at a hockey rink in Granby CT a while ago and stopped by that guy's store. Mostly fantasy stuff, Japanese anime, and things like that. Out of there in five minutes. He was not at all interested in dropping his $475/$500 price even for a cash in hand deal. Tracked down the guy in Annandale VA (actually the seller is in Arlington VA) and wouldn't think of dealing with him. He and his father, both building contractors, have a history of eBay fraud -- multiple user ID's, lot of negative feedback on some of the user ID's, etc.
Rich
Was at a hockey rink in Granby CT a while ago and stopped by that guy's store. Mostly fantasy stuff, Japanese anime, and things like that. Out of there in five minutes. He was not at all interested in dropping his $475/$500 price even for a cash in hand deal. Tracked down the guy in Annandale VA (actually the seller is in Arlington VA) and wouldn't think of dealing with him. He and his father, both building contractors, have a history of eBay fraud -- multiple user ID's, lot of negative feedback on some of the user ID's, etc.
Rich
MansGame
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I'm assuming with this guys prices, he isn't interested in selling them. It's crazy to think how this set got so hot out of nowhere haha
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RustyGreerFan
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I think the problem is the boxes that sold for super high 6-12 months ago skewing the market.
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RustyGreerFan
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[MENTION=9603]corockies[/MENTION] - I have these Rockies for trade
Base
Bichette - 19
Burks - 31, 43, 68
LWalker - 38, 44, 68
Helton - 11, 25, 68
Castilla - 7, 44
Diffractors (from my set in progress)
Bichette - 48
Burks - 35
Base
Bichette - 19
Burks - 31, 43, 68
LWalker - 38, 44, 68
Helton - 11, 25, 68
Castilla - 7, 44
Diffractors (from my set in progress)
Bichette - 48
Burks - 35
rinkrat38
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Well, looks like someone bought two of Eddie's boxes each for the $475.00 price yesterday afternoon. The eBay bidding pseudonym m***a is the same person who bought a number of very expensive boxes last summer or spring. No idea who it is, and I have never seen that person bidding on other Teks. May well be a speculator who figures to cash in sometime down the line.
Rich
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