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You know Molina missed too many games to win, considering the competition. You're giving Cardinals fans a bad rep by posting nonsense like that.Tell that to Yadier.
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You know Molina missed too many games to win, considering the competition. You're giving Cardinals fans a bad rep by posting nonsense like that.Tell that to Yadier.
Who's the troll voter who gave Josh Donaldson a first place vote?
You know Molina missed too many games to win, considering the competition. You're giving Cardinals fans a bad rep by posting nonsense like that.
Who's the troll voter who gave Josh Donaldson a first place vote?
Who's the troll voter who gave Josh Donaldson a first place vote?
One of the big arguments for Miggy last year from the voters and many on this board was how amazing Cabrera was the last 6 weeks of the year versus Trout because of the twisted logic that a game in September means more to the final standings than a game in May.
Now we are debating if Playoff presence is a MVP factor in 2013?
Donaldson was just as valuable to the A's as Cabrera was to the Tigers, I would hardly call it a troll vote....the voter obviously takes defense into account. Maybe they are into the sabremetrics and gave it to the player with the higher 'WAR', who knows.Who's the troll voter who gave Josh Donaldson a first place vote?
I say it's a factor every year - the playoff teams are known (or are pretty much known) by the time the MVP votes are due so it's hard to think that when pondering a MVP vote, starting with playoff teams and figuring out who on those teams were valuable to the success of the team would not be a starting point to determining a MVP vote.
Want to take the playoff team bias out of the voting? Vote for the MVP during the All-Star Break, although you'll be screwing those players who will have strong post-ASB stats to put them in the MVP race.
Last year you might have had an argument. I think if Cabrera had not won the triple crown, Trout would have edged him for the MVP.
This year it's not nearly as close. Trout may have had a better season, but Cabrera had a WAY better season than 2012. Oh and he was playing injured the entire year too, if that matters for an intangible measure of "value"
How anyone thought Mike Trout actually had a shot at winning MVP this year is beyond me. He had a better shot last year.
Miggy had a higher average, way more HR and RBI...it's an offensive award. If defense and speed were the major factors, Ozzie Smith would've had 10 MVPs
The whole point of the baseball season is to get to the playoffs and, obviously, to try and win it all.
Whatever player has the biggest impact on getting a team to the playoffs in the first place SHOULD be the one to get it.