Pineda suspended for 10 games for pine tar incident.

Pineda suspended for 10 games.

Just heard it on the Cardinals broadcast.

Well, he did use a performance enhancing substance. But that's only 2 starts, right?

I really laughed out loud when I seen the video and then the picture. He really thought he was going to get away with it and did not try to hid it now did he.:lol::benson:

hive17 said:

Well, he did use a performance enhancing substance. But that's only 2 starts, right?

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They said it would actually only be one start.

I would laugh if he tries to appeal the suspension.

But yeah, 10 games sounds about right...

Pine Tar said:

I really laughed out loud when I seen the video and then the picture. He really thought he was going to get away with it and did not try to hid it now did he.:lol::benson:

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Was wondering when YOU would weigh in.

I think the Yankees don't need a 5th starter until a week from Monday (according to ESPN radio), meaning he'd only miss one start.

HOWEVER - if he appeals it and loses the appeal... that appeal could carry him to the point where an enforced 10 games would cost him 2 starts, right?

A_Pharis said:

I think the Yankees don't need a 5th starter until a week from Monday (according to ESPN radio), meaning he'd only miss one start.

HOWEVER - if he appeals it and loses the appeal... that appeal could carry him to the point where an enforced 10 games would cost him 2 starts, right?

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Yes. He shouldn't appeal, and take his 1 game ban. For Starting Pitchers, they really should enforce a REAL Suspension. 10 games is costly to a hitter/fielder, if you wanna ban him for 10 games too, give him a 50 day ban.

The 10 games for a pitchers is stupid. Its 2 games at most. Say its 2 games instead of this 10 game lie. If a position players gets suspended 10 games, its 10 games.

BiggioBrooks755 said:

The 10 games for a pitchers is stupid. Its 2 games at most. Say its 2 games instead of this 10 game lie. If a position players gets suspended 10 games, its 10 games.

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3.02
No player shall intentionally discolor or damage the ball by rubbing it with soil, rosin, paraffin, licorice, sand-paper, emery-paper or other foreign substance.
PENALTY: The umpire shall demand the ball and remove the offender from the game. In addition, the offender shall be suspended automatically for 10 games. For rules in regard to a pitcher defacing the ball, see Rules 8.02(a)(2) through (6).

Just say its 2 games and move on...Stop making it look like its a long suspension when its 2 games

BiggioBrooks755 said:

Just say its 2 games and move on...Stop making it look like its a long suspension when its 2 games

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What if he was a reliever? It IS by rule a 10 game ban

Dmscards said:

What if he was a reliever? It IS by rule a 10 game ban

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10 games that he will be playing in

I also have a problem with the position player vs pitcher argument with suspensions. Sure, a position player on 10 game suspension misses 10 games. But. That player is 1/9th of the field and ABs. A starting pitcher on game day is worth much more than any position player, both in terms of direct performance and on the bench/substitute. Replacing a SP for 2 games in 10 days wreaks havoc on the bullpen and other player moves on the 25-man. How exactly do you handle a 10-game ban for a pitcher? You can't take him off the 25-man, so you're playing a man down. Now inevitably the replacement is from the bullpen, which dramatically taxes those guys, OR it's someone you recall from the minors, which necessitates someone else being removed from the roster. Then there's the fact that anyone sent down has to stay down 10 days, so you can't just keep swapping players back and forth.

In reality, 10 days for the starting pitcher is a big big problem. At any position you can likely get replacement level production off the bench and sure it makes it tight, but you're not in nearly as big a whole every 5th day.

BiggioBrooks755 said:

10 games that he will be playing in

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That's why I said for a Starter, they should make whatever ban they imposed multiplied by 5 games.

If the rules state "10 games he would play" They can just say "well he was planned to pitch 10 straight days for us"

BiggioBrooks755 said:

10 games that he will be playing in

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You would never know what games the reliever would be in

Dmscards said:

You would never know what games the reliever would be in

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The 10 games after he is caught...That would be a real suspension not this wussy suspension they gave out

Was there a fine? 10 days, while really only 2 starts, is still 10 salary days. That's where the disconnect between pitchers and position players differs greatly. Justin Verlander missing 10 games in an attempt to delete 2 starts is way more costly than Josh Hamilton missing 2 games , when you are talking about salary.

hive17 said:

Was there a fine? 10 days, while really only 2 starts, is still 10 salary days. That's where the disconnect between pitchers and position players differs greatly. Justin Verlander missing 10 games in an attempt to delete 2 starts is way more costly than Josh Hamilton missing 2 games , when you are talking about salary.

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I believe I heard it's roughly $29,000 in salary lost during the suspension. But yeah for someone who makes $25m/year, it's gotta be tough to swallow.