ebay seller blocked me...

[descott77]

I run my usual search and go to bid on a card but I am informed that the seller is not accepting bids from me. It turns out it is because I am blocked. I go to ask the seller why I am blocked, seeing as how I have never done business with this seller, and ebay will not let me contact the seller.

Has anyone else been blocked like this before? I dont see why I would be blocked I have a 100% rating and as mentioned before have never come across this seller on the site. Are there other reasons for blocking someone without previous knowledge of who they are?

 

[abeabe]

There is a list on this board and others that have a thread of ebay'ers to block. If your name has shown up on those lists from having issues with other sellers. Some other sellers will block you so they don't run into the problems that the other seller ran into with you. Having 100% only matters for people buying, not the buyers since sellers can't leave negative feedback. Not saying this is the case with you, but there are definately plenty of names that show up in those threads.

 

[descott77]

There is a list on this board and others that have a thread of ebay'ers to block. If your name has shown up on those lists from having issues with other sellers. Some other sellers will block you so they don't run into the problems that the other seller ran into with you. Having 100% only matters for people buying, not the buyers since sellers can't leave negative feedback. Not saying this is the case with you, but there are definately plenty of names that show up in those threads.

i know of no reason why i would be on that list but i do know what you are talking about...i have never had an issue on ebay before this situation

 

[JEA2880]

PM me item specifics and I can put in a bid for you if you'd like... you were certainly easy to deal with when you bought from me!

 

[descott77]

PM me item specifics and I can put in a bid for you if you'd like... you were certainly easy to deal with when you bought from me!

i appreciate that...i am working on it with ebay right now but if this lady cant help me i will for sure send you a pm with the info

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

 

[bigredmachine]

That Rob guy who was a moderator on this board who also admitted to shill bidding blocked me. Seems he is still doing the same thing. My best offers were to low to start with.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

 

[A_Pharis]

I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Nickle and dime.

 

[All The Hype]

I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.

 

[JEA2880]

[quote="Jeff N.":2y59wl79]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.[/quote:2y59wl79]

BOOM. Well said and thanked.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

[quote="Jeff N.":2weacwfv]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.[/quote:2weacwfv]

Agree completely.

On the reverse end, I don't make my best offer to sellers because I know it will never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-var be accepted. Sellers know that there are three bites at the apple, so sellers always counter the first offer made. Because I go into an auction knowing same, I don't make my first offer first. And I can't tell you how many times it just gets denied without any counter offer.

People are stupid.

 

[All The Hype]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":2j3yum8t]

[quote="Jeff N.":2j3yum8t]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.[/quote:2j3yum8t]

Agree completely.

On the reverse end, I don't make my best offer to sellers because I know it will never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-var be accepted. Sellers know that there are three bites at the apple, so sellers always counter the first offer made. Because I go into an auction knowing same, I don't make my first offer first. And I can't tell you how many times it just gets denied without any counter offer.

People are stupid.[/quote:2j3yum8t]

From a buyer's standpoint I tend to do the same thing as you, offering less than my true best offer in anticipation of some negotiation, although I do make my offer close to my best offer (which is usually around market price anyway).

But from a seller's standpoint, there definitely have been times when I've accepted someone's first offer.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

[quote="Jeff N.":12fph3x9]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.[/quote:12fph3x9]
I disagree.

If some ass clown is offering 25% of all of the recent sales history of a card, that isn't opening negotiation...it's being an ass clown.

Let's say you are looking at buying a house, and the owner is asking for $400K...you offer $100K. No seller in their right mind would consider you a serious candidate after that offer. You want to open up for negotiation, be within a reasonable range.

Cards typically sells for $100, and you offer $80...sure...fair enough...but if you offer $25...you're a ******.

(NOTE: It has nothing to do with "being offended" by an offer, eBay is offensive enough, but if eBay is a business...treat it as such. Short of haggling in India, I can't see this lowball douchery accepted anywhere else in North America, so why on eBay.)

 

[PeteD]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":328lg2pv]

[quote="Jeff N.":328lg2pv]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.[/quote:328lg2pv]

Agree completely.

On the reverse end, I don't make my best offer to sellers because I know it will never, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-var be accepted. Sellers know that there are three bites at the apple, so sellers always counter the first offer made. Because I go into an auction knowing same, I don't make my first offer first. And I can't tell you how many times it just gets denied without any counter offer.

People are stupid.[/quote:328lg2pv]


Especially when you can automatically set the minimum amount you want for the item ::facepalm::

 

[All The Hype]

[quote="Jeff N.":15zzn30g]I've been blocked by a lot of sellers because I start my 1st of 3 best offers "too low".

Eff em. They lose out on a sale.

I've blocked people for similar, but only if it was truly a ****** bid. IE: Recent sales history (10 transactions strong) of an item is $75, I list it at $85 BIN/BO and an offer comes in at $20...I'll block them.

I could do auto-decline, but there are times I've seen familiar IDs shoot an offer that I know I can do offline with them directly, or people I've dealt with before.

Then again, if buyers are supposedly submitting a "Best Offer", why give three "bests?"

Here's my best offer.
Here's my bestest offer.
Here's my triple dog dare you offer.

Which is why it's not truly a best offer, making it silly to block people for lowball offers IMO. Sometimes it seems people just want to open negotiation, so a counter-offer might be more beneficial for the seller than blocking.

To each his own, but blocking based on an offer just seems downright stupid to me. What if the same person would have been willing to pay double what one of your other listings was worth? Nope, he can't because he is blocked. Doesn't make any sense to me, because it's simply not a hassle to click the decline button if you're that offended by an offer.

I disagree.

If some ass clown is offering 25% of all of the recent sales history of a card, that isn't opening negotiation...it's being an ass clown.

Let's say you are looking at buying a house, and the owner is asking for $400K...you offer $100K. No seller in their right mind would consider you a serious candidate after that offer. You want to open up for negotiation, be within a reasonable range.

Cards typically sells for $100, and you offer $80...sure...fair enough...but if you offer $25...you're a ******.

(NOTE: It has nothing to do with "being offended" by an offer, eBay is offensive enough, but if eBay is a business...treat it as such. Short of haggling in India, I can't see this lowball douchery accepted anywhere else in North America, so why on eBay.)[/quote:15zzn30g]

I understand your point although there's a big difference between offering $300K less than the asking price and offering $30 less than the asking price (assuming we keep the same percentages, $40 asking and a guy offers $10). In the card world, such a thing isn't nearly as ******* as it would be in the house scenario, IMO.

Another point is that there are lots of uneducated buyers on eBay who simply don't know the market, much less how to check completed listings. So with that I bring back the same example: what if the same guy who made a lowball offer on one of your cards (because he didn't know the market) is completely willing to offer you double the amount you were looking for on another card (because he didn't know the market)? By blocking them, you rule out this possibility.

We can agree that there are plenty of assclown buyers out there who feel they should be handed a 40% discount on every card, but to assume all buyers are like this is a good way to fend off (real) potential buyers.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I understand your point although there's a big difference between offering $300K less than the asking price and offering $30 less than the asking price (assuming we keep the same percentages, $40 asking and a guy offers $10). In the card world, such a thing isn't nearly as ******* as it would be in the house scenario, IMO.

Another point is that there are lots of uneducated buyers on eBay who simply don't know the market, much less how to check completed listings. So with that I bring back the same example: what if the same guy who made a lowball offer on one of your cards (because he didn't know the market) is completely willing to offer you double the amount you were looking for on another card (because he didn't know the market)? By blocking them, you rule out this possibility.

We can agree that there are plenty of assclown buyers out there who feel they should be handed a 40% discount on every card, but to assume all buyers are like this is a good way to fend off (real) potential buyers.

I don't assume that all buyers are assclowns, however any buyer who deals primarily in the card market (as a most basic analysis of their feedback will indicate) who offers 25% of the going rate of a card is indeed an assclown.

And yes, while the money is different, I don't view a $10 offer on a $40 value (based on multiple recent sales) a serious offer. They know better and I'm not interested in a offer circle jerk when I counter with $40 and their 2nd offer is $25, I then counter again at $40, and their final offer is $35.

To each their own, but buyers shouldn't bitch if they get blocked for moronic offers. And again, it has nothing to do with the percentage based on the seller's asking price, but everything to do with market price.

I recently made an offer that was 25% of the BIN/BO (and about 10% more than the 4 most recent transactions)...the seller accepted. As a buyer, I haven't ever submitted a 2nd offer because I base my first offer as my "best offer" no matter how many eBay gives me. If the seller refuses, or tries to squeeze a few bucks extra...no sweat...I hope they sell it to someone else.

 

[A_Pharis]

I like the "You block me when I could have put a huge offer on your other auction" reply. Yeah, you could put a big offer on another one of my cards -- but you're more likely to put in the same 10% bid on it, too.

 

[theplasticman]

Even better is knowing how much your guys cards go for, making a very reasonable offer and still being blocked. That's happened to me I'm sure.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I like the "You block me when I could have put a huge offer on your other auction" reply. Yeah, you could put a big offer on another one of my cards -- but you're more likely to put in the same 10% bid on it, too.

If the mentality is to low ball offer...it rarely differs from auction to auction.

Some people love to haggle, some people don't.

And I treat seller's how I expect to be treated...reasonable offer and move on. I'd rather not waste their time with a back and forth.