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This is not me bashing Mike Trout, I only wish to make a comparrison to another player. As we have seen BA and others consider Trout to be a top 5 prospect, however his numbers in the Midwest league this year draw very similar comparrisons to Ben Reveresnumbers in the midwest league two years ago. Revere was never considered a top 5 prospect nor should he have been.

Ben Revere: Avg: 379 1 hr and 44 SB
Mike Trout: Avg 362 7 hr 45 sb

Both played in a simlar number of games. Again I think Mike Trout is a great prospect and much better than Ben Revere, but I was just wanted to get your thoughts on this.
 

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Trout is rated so highly not only because of his performance, but because of his projection. Revere was older, had/has a terrible swing, is significantly smaller without room for growth, and showed zero power.
 

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Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.
 

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Maybe Trout is overrated, but it isn't just how they performed in a league in one particular time, but physical projection - Trout goes about 6'1" and 217 while Revere maybe 5'7" and 165.

I think Trout is going to lose half of his speed, but double his power - with his other abilities, he could be a potential five-tool player with the ability to be an all-star every year.

Revere is likely to retain the speed he has shown, but there have been doubts whether at his size [5'7" and 165], he has maxed out his abilities and will be able to sustain any kind of Major League career.
 

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MarlinsManiac20 said:
Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
 

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jondawg04 said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.
 

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MarlinsManiac20 said:
jondawg04 said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
 

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He's already a big kid and he might fill out just a little bit more.

jondawg04 said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
 

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Ian Stewart said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
jondawg04 said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.
 

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MarlinsManiac20 said:
Ian Stewart said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
jondawg04 said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.

A.) It's "to each his own".
B.) Jay Austin doesn't have more HR's than Trout. They both have 8.
C.) They are not similar, let alone "very, very" similar.
D.) Stop trying to find sleepers and then posting them here. Austin is mediocre at best and there's plenty of reasons why he isn't even near Trout's level.
 

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Ian Stewart said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":1u27r65f]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
jondawg04 said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.

A.) It's "to each his own".
B.) Jay Austin doesn't have more HR's than Trout. They both have 8.
C.) They are not similar, let alone "very, very" similar.
D.) Stop trying to find sleepers and then posting them here. Austin is mediocre at best and there's plenty of reasons why he isn't even near Trout's level.[/quote:1u27r65f]

/action:::glancing at my Tim Wheeler stash:::

::::getting nervous::::\action
 

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Jaypers said:
Ian Stewart said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":r4e9tx9x]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
jondawg04 said:
[quote="MarlinsManiac20":r4e9tx9x]Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.

A.) It's "to each his own".
B.) Jay Austin doesn't have more HR's than Trout. They both have 8.
C.) They are not similar, let alone "very, very" similar.
D.) Stop trying to find sleepers and then posting them here. Austin is mediocre at best and there's plenty of reasons why he isn't even near Trout's level.[/quote:r4e9tx9x]

/action:::glancing at my Tim Wheeler stash:::

::::getting nervous::::\action[/quote:r4e9tx9x]

Tim Wheeler is so similar to Jeremy Hellickson.
 

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Ian Stewart said:
Jaypers said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":v6kk8vbn]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":v6kk8vbn]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
jondawg04 said:
[quote="MarlinsManiac20":v6kk8vbn]Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.

A.) It's "to each his own".
B.) Jay Austin doesn't have more HR's than Trout. They both have 8.
C.) They are not similar, let alone "very, very" similar.
D.) Stop trying to find sleepers and then posting them here. Austin is mediocre at best and there's plenty of reasons why he isn't even near Trout's level.[/quote:v6kk8vbn]

/action:::glancing at my Tim Wheeler stash:::

::::getting nervous::::\action[/quote:v6kk8vbn]

Tim Wheeler is so similar to Jeremy Hellickson.[/quote:v6kk8vbn] Of course bud. Jokes on you because I no longer have my stash of him. Jaypers actually has quite the extensive stash. I made my money off Tim so I really could care less what you guys have to say.
 

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MarlinsManiac20 said:
Ian Stewart said:
Jaypers said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":32keujt7]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":32keujt7]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="jondawg04":32keujt7][quote="MarlinsManiac20":32keujt7]Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.

A.) It's "to each his own".
B.) Jay Austin doesn't have more HR's than Trout. They both have 8.
C.) They are not similar, let alone "very, very" similar.
D.) Stop trying to find sleepers and then posting them here. Austin is mediocre at best and there's plenty of reasons why he isn't even near Trout's level.[/quote:32keujt7]

/action:::glancing at my Tim Wheeler stash:::

::::getting nervous::::\action[/quote:32keujt7]

Tim Wheeler is so similar to Jeremy Hellickson.[/quote:32keujt7] Of course bud. Jokes on you because I no longer have my stash of him. Jaypers actually has quite the extensive stash. I made my money off Tim so I really could care less what you guys have to say.[/quote:32keujt7]

Cool. Go load up on Jay Austin now.
 

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MarlinsManiac20 said:
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

Jay Austin could become a speedy center fielder who can bat leadoff and steal bases (a Mike Bourn clone). However, you must take into account that his offensive numbers this year are inflated by playing in the Cal League (I'm looking at you Jon Gaston), and he may not sustain this power at higher levels.

On the other hand, Mike Trout could become a speedy center fielder who can bat leadoff and steal bases. His numbers (especially SBs) have decreased thus far in the Cal League, however, he may develop more power at higher levels.

Completely different players.
 

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MarlinsManiac20 said:
Ian Stewart said:
Jaypers said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":12h4i5xl]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":12h4i5xl]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="jondawg04":12h4i5xl][quote="MarlinsManiac20":12h4i5xl]Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.

A.) It's "to each his own".
B.) Jay Austin doesn't have more HR's than Trout. They both have 8.
C.) They are not similar, let alone "very, very" similar.
D.) Stop trying to find sleepers and then posting them here. Austin is mediocre at best and there's plenty of reasons why he isn't even near Trout's level.[/quote:12h4i5xl]

/action:::glancing at my Tim Wheeler stash:::

::::getting nervous::::\action[/quote:12h4i5xl]

Tim Wheeler is so similar to Jeremy Hellickson.[/quote:12h4i5xl] Of course bud. Jokes on you because I no longer have my stash of him. Jaypers actually has quite the extensive stash. I made my money off Tim so I really could care less what you guys have to say.[/quote:12h4i5xl]

You would have made a lot of $$ off me, too, had I took your bait with your $180 or whatever price you wanted for your Josh Bell gold refractor auto back in May, when he was "dominating in the minors"-well, he was batting a robust .250 or so, with a handful of HR, and a bad K/BB ratio.

Back to the topic--I think Trout IS overrated. He is a legit organization #1 prospect, but all the hype BA is giving him is seriously getting to be a bit too much. But as a guy who has a handful of auto's of his, as well as many IP autos, I love the BA hype.

I have watched him play live twice, and neither time was I ever blown away by anything. Now, in the game of baseball there are days where this happens, so part of it is I saw him play on the wrong days. But I don't think he should be getting this insane amount of hype unless he is doing it in Hi-A or AA ball. He is young, and dominated a rather difficult league for young hitters. But when you think he has been the most hyped this year outside of Stras, Stanton, and Heyward-that is kind of nuts.
 

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After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.
 

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hail2thevictors said:
MarlinsManiac20 said:
Ian Stewart said:
Jaypers said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":2b4qwvwd]
MarlinsManiac20 said:
[quote="Ian Stewart":2b4qwvwd][quote="MarlinsManiac20":2b4qwvwd][quote="jondawg04":2b4qwvwd][quote="MarlinsManiac20":2b4qwvwd]Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

You are a complete retard.
Each to his own. Jay Austin has a bright future.

A.) It's "to each his own".
B.) Jay Austin doesn't have more HR's than Trout. They both have 8.
C.) They are not similar, let alone "very, very" similar.
D.) Stop trying to find sleepers and then posting them here. Austin is mediocre at best and there's plenty of reasons why he isn't even near Trout's level.[/quote:2b4qwvwd]

/action:::glancing at my Tim Wheeler stash:::

::::getting nervous::::\action[/quote:2b4qwvwd]

Tim Wheeler is so similar to Jeremy Hellickson.[/quote:2b4qwvwd] Of course bud. Jokes on you because I no longer have my stash of him. Jaypers actually has quite the extensive stash. I made my money off Tim so I really could care less what you guys have to say.[/quote:2b4qwvwd]

You would have made a lot of $$ off me, too, had I took your bait with your $180 or whatever price you wanted for your Josh Bell gold refractor auto back in May, when he was "dominating in the minors"-well, he was batting a robust .250 or so, with a handful of HR, and a bad K/BB ratio.

Back to the topic--I think Trout IS overrated. He is a legit organization #1 prospect, but all the hype BA is giving him is seriously getting to be a bit too much. But as a guy who has a handful of auto's of his, as well as many IP autos, I love the BA hype.

I have watched him play live twice, and neither time was I ever blown away by anything. Now, in the game of baseball there are days where this happens, so part of it is I saw him play on the wrong days. But I don't think he should be getting this insane amount of hype unless he is doing it in Hi-A or AA ball. He is young, and dominated a rather difficult league for young hitters. But when you think he has been the most hyped this year outside of Stras, Stanton, and Heyward-that is kind of nuts.[/quote:2b4qwvwd]
One I never asked that price on that card. I actually took a hit on it selling it for 110. If you did buy it without doing research on a price you found is fair who's fault would that be? Also I believe this thread was on mike trout. Not Bashing the **** out of marlinsmaniac20.....
 

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