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MrMopar's New Dodgers Autograph Thread

mrmopar

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PART IV of IV! Quite an impressive Dodgers mail day for sure:

Merwin Jacobson played for Brooklyn in 1926 and briefly in 1927. This followed a 10 year absence from MLB, after making his debut in 1915 with the Giants (8 games) and 1916 with the Cubs (4 games). Brooklyn would be the last of him MLB career, but remained in the minors through 1933. He died in 1978 at age 83. Jacobson.jpg

Emil "Dutch" Leonard, not to be confused with an earlier pitcher by the name of Hubert "Dutch" Leonard, pitched for the Dodgers from his rookie season in 1933-1936. He compiled an 18-23 record in that time, but would go on to better success after he was traded, winning 173 more games, including a 20 W season for the 1939 Senators and 4 AS appearances. Leonard died in 1973 at age 74. Leonard.jpg

Bill Hubbell ended his career at 28 with the 1925 Robins, going 3-6. He died in 1980 at age 83. Hubbell.jpg

Buck Marrow pitched parts of 2 seasons with Brooklyn in 1937-38. He was 1-3 in 21 games. 1928 would be his final MLB season at age 28. he died in 1982 at age 73. Marrow.jpg

Bob McGraw pitched for the Robins from 1925-27, compiling a 9-16 record in those three partial seasons. He died in 1978 at age 83. McGraw.jpg

Earl Mossor appeared in 3 games for the 1951 Dodgers, pitching a total of 1.2 innings and had a 32.40 ERA, Yikes! He toiled in the minors from 1946-1959, with those 3 games being his cup of coffee in the show. He died in 1988 at the age of 63. Mossor.jpg

Joe Riggert played OF in 27 games for the 1914 Robins at hit .193, but he did have 3 triples! He died in 1973 at age 86. Riggert.jpg

And that's a wrap for today!
 

mrmopar

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I am an idiot for buying these, but I was curious about the stamp they are using. I suspect they had a bunch made up, as I have not seen any like it before, or since these cards hit the market. I certainly do not believe it is a legal tender US stamp, as they would have you think. This is an absolute garbage issue, but suckers like me are still buying (singles only for me, at least). I got it for under $10 delivered, so for a "1/1" Garvey auto, I guess I can't really complain. Garvey Bar.jpg

2017 Archives Manny Mota /25. This is the exact card that got me hooked on Archives, way too much after the fact. I was focusing my Dodger autograph searches to include as many certified cards as I could find, after really only chasing a signature anyway I could find it for so long.

When I discovered this product would have a certified Mota card and dug into it further and saw that there would be 5 different parallel autographs for most subjects (/1, /25, /75, /150 I think and base), I targeted ALL of the Dodgers and Bean, a former Dodger (Mota, Cey, Moon, Lasorda and Billy Bean). Soon I got sucked into it all and was trying to get all 4 versions of everyone except for the expensive guys, but focusing especially on the reds (/25). In the end, I ended up with 4/4 from 36 different players, including 5 where I also snagged the 1/1 gold too!). I had another run of 4 (with 1/1 too) as Joyce didn't have a peach parallel. I also completed 11 other runs, where the subject had anywhere from 1-3 versions only.

After I went off the deep end chasing these and the dust finally settled, I am still only 2 red cards shy of my ultimate goal of completing all of the players on my list, Jim Edmonds and Bald Vinny. I saw a red Edmonds, but the price was too high. After I finally decided to go all out, even for guys like Vinny, I never saw another red card. I really can't see myself paying a whole lot for one if it comes available, but if you have one that you don't care about, let me know. Maybe we can strike a deal.

The gold 1/1 cards were the ultimate and I was hoping to land at least 1 Dodger. Unfortunately, I missed the Lasorda gold (after it started out at around $500 and dropped like a rock from there) but never saw Moon, Cey or Mota golds ever offered. I did get 1 though, sort of. I landed the Billy Bean gold.

I continued to chase Dodgers and even multiple players and parallels in 2018 and 2019, but have allowed myself a break and don't need everything anymore. I did still chase the /25 editions hard each year though (2018 Blue) and 2019 (Also blue). Still missing quite a few of the 18-19 blues also, if anyone has any to deal.

Anyway, here is a duplicate Mota for me, because it was cheap and I still love the design and this card, in particular. Mota 25.jpg
 

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Will Smith. I like the simple, clean design of this issue. Smith made his debut for the Dodgers in 2019 and was showing people he belonged, especially after hitting 15 HRs in his 54 games. At 24, maybe he is the next generation C for the Dodgers, although 20 year old C prospect Keibert Ruiz is pushing hard behind him. Smith.jpg

Yimi Garcia Refractor. Middle reliever, with minimal stats. I guess those guys never really get the credit in the stat lines for what some do for their team. At 28, he is 5-11 across 5 seasons with the Dodgers in 165 games, 64 appearances just last season. He was no Mike Marshall, but he was used often enough. Garcia.jpg

Adrian Gonzalez enjoyed 4 solid years with the Dodgers at the twilight of his career, including a silver slugger, gold glove and RBI crown in 2014. The Red Sox sent him, Josh Beckett, Carl Crawford, Nick Punto and cash to the Dodgers in 2012 for Ivan DeJesus, James Loney, Allen Webster and later on Jerry Sands and Rubby De La Rossa to complete the deal. I think the Dodgers made out well on that deal. When the Dodgers traded him away to the Braves in 2017, he went with Charlie Culberson, Scott Kazmir, Brandon McCarthy and cash so that they could reacquire long time favorite Matt Kemp (whom they had traded away in 2014 for essentially nothing - Yasmani Grandal being the only name of note). The Dodgers did OK on that deal as well, with Kemp having a comeback player of the year type campaign. Career,wise he was a 5X AS, 4X GG and 2X SS winner with 2000+ Hits and 300+ HRs, not a bad run. Born in San Diego, he is representing Mexico on this card for the World Baseball Classic. AG.jpg
 
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PART I of II

Another monster day, but this was because of one package.

The Garvey 8x10 was the only other separate item received.

Garvey 8x10.jpg

Gene Bailey, outfielder for Brooklyn in 1923-24. he died in 1973 at age 79. Bailey.jpg

Ray French, played SS in 43 games for the 1923 Brooklyn team. he died in 1978 at age 83. French.jpg

Johnny Hudson, played in Brooklyn 1936-40. He had only 1 full year, 1938 as their regular 2B. I mentioned his trade previously, but he and Charlie Gilbert were sent to the Cubs for future HOFer Billy Herman in 1941. Hudson died in 1970 at age 58. Hudson.jpg

Lemmie Miller got into 8 games for the 1984 Dodgers, his entire MLB career. 2 hits and a .167 avg and that would be all. For being alive and relatively recent player, his signature is virtually non-existent compared to players from a similar background and time frame. Lemmie.jpg

Bernie Neis came up with Brooklyn in 1920 and played outfield through the 1924 season, that last one being the most playing time he got with the club. He died in 1972 at age 77. Neis.jpg

Dick Siebert made his MLB debut for Brooklyn in 1932, seeing action in 6 games. He toiled in the minors for several years, before getting another shoit with Brooklyn in 1936. This time is was just 2 games. He was in St. Louis the following year and would go on to have a decent 7 year stretch with the Athletics, including an AS spot in 1943. His son Paul pitched in the majors in the mid-late 70s. He died in 1978 at age 66. Siebert.jpg. He died in 1973, a few days shy of his 73rd birthday.

Roy Spender ended his 12 year MLB in Brooklyn, in 1937-38. He caught in 61 games across those 2 years for the Dodgers. Spencer.jpg

To be continued...
 

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Part II of II.

The next grouping consisted of 59 items in 3 lots. I enjoy whipping up little bios and facts, but I am not sure I can spare the time to do 59 right now!

Lot of 10. 10 Cut 1.jpg10 Cut 2.jpg

Rae Blaemire, Dodgers Minors 1938-39, 46 (D. 75)
Ralph Boyle, Dodgers 1933-35 (D. 78)
Rube Bressler, Robins 1928-31 (D. 66)
Ira Hutchinson, Dodgers 1939 (D. 73)
Walter Irwin, No time with Dodgers I can find (D. 76)
Bernie Neis, Robins 1920-24 (D. 72)
Denny (Southern) Sothern, Robins 1931 (D. 77)
Mac Wheat, Robins 1915-19 (D. 79) - Brother of Zack Wheat
Eddie Wilson, Dodgers 1936-37 (D. 79)
Rube Yarrison, Robins 1924 (D. 77)

Lot of 23 Target Cards Target 23 1.jpgTarget 23 2.jpg

Larry Burright, Dodgers 1962
Dick Calmus, Dodgers 1963
Harry Eisenstat, Dodgers 1935-37 (D. 03)
Al Ferrara, Dodgers 1963, 65-68
Jim Grant, Dodgers 1968
Derrell Griffith, Dodgers 1963-66
John Hale, Dodgers 1974-77
Ransom Jackson, Dodgers 1956-58 (D. 19)
John Kennedy, Dodgers 1965-66 (D. 18)
Andy Kosco, Dodgers 1969-70
Lerrin LaGrow, Dodgers 1979
Norm Larker, Dodgers 1958-61 (D. 07)
Bill Lohrman, Dodgers 1943-44 (D. 99)
Ron Negray, Dodgers 1952, 58 (D. 18)
Dave Patterson, Dodgers 1979
Paul Ray Powell, Dodgers 1973, 75
Ted Power, Dodgers 1981-82
John Purdin, Dodgers 1964-65, 68-69 (D. 10)
Norm Sherry, Dodgers 1959-62
Fred Sington, Dodgers 1938-39 (D. 98)
Wayne Terwilliger, Dodgers 1951
Maury Wills, Dodgers 1959-66, 69-72
Geoff Zahn, Dodgers 1973-75

Lot of 26. 26 Cuts 1.jpg26 Cuts 2.jpg26 Cuts 3.jpg26 Cuts 4.jpg

Eddie Ainsmith, Robins 1923 (D. 81)
Horace Allen, Robins 1919 (D. 81)
Bob Barrett, Robins 1925, 27 (D. 82)
Leo Dickerman, Robins 1923-24 (D. 82)
John Douglas, Dodgers 1945 (D. 84)
Tom Drake, Dodgers 1941 (D. 88)
Rube Ehrhardt, Robins 1924-28 (D. 80)
Johnny Enzmann, Robins 1914 (D. 84)
Lou Fette, Dodgers 1940 (D. 81)
Larry French, Dodgers 1941-42 (D. 87)
Al Glossop, Dodgers 1943 (D. 91)
Nelson Greene, Robins 1924-25 (D. 83)
Kirby Higbe, Dodgers 1941-43, 46-47 (D. 85)
Max Macon, Dodgers 1940, 42-43 (D. 89)
Bill McCarren, Robins 1923 (D. 83)
Ollie O'Mara, Robins 1914-16, 18-19 (D. 89)
Joe Orengo, Dodgers 1943 (D. 88)
Frank O'Rourke, Robins 1917-18 (D. 86)
Don Padgett, Dodgers 1946 (D. 80)
Jimmy Pattison, Robins 1929 (D. 91)
Tom Sheehan, I don't see any Dodger affiliation at all, but there is a Dodger PC of his signed on ebay right now dated 1938. Maybe a minor league coach or scout spot that didn't make his bio.(D. 82)
Harry Smyth, Dodgers 1934 (D. 80)
John "Stuffy" Stewart, Robins 1923 (D. 80)
Fay Thomas, Dodgers 1932 (D. 90)
Al Todd, Dodgers 1939 (D. 85)
John "Tom" Winsett, Dodgers 1936-38 (D. 87)
 

mrmopar

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As with any massive mail day, like the one I had yesterday, follow up is nearly impossible not to disappoint. I have been buying singles and lots for a seller breaking up a large Brooklyn/LA collection and he group ships, so I was expecting a couple large packages from him. I usually only see something like this if I happen to get a large lot of TTM autos, which is rare.

Anyway, I only got 1 autograph in today's mail. It's kind of a big one, not the signature itself as I have TONS already, but the card itself.

Steve Garvey 1/1. Garvey 1-1.jpg

I have some competition of late and, frankly the pursuit of newer, higher end cards is less appealing to me than it has in the past. I am tired of paying inflated prices, simply because ONE other collector needs the card. I went through this in the mid 2000s as well, when 2-3 guys were hammering each other to win the newest limited cards, paying well above "market". It is happening again now, but I have actually seen the "market" try to adjust, as people see these sales.

A perfect example: One guy had a Flawless card numbered to 20 copies. I seem to recall he was asking around $100 for it, maybe more. I offered him $40, which he declined. No complaints, but I did reply that he was getting a fair offer, although it may not look that way to him based on his asking price. I had to wait a month, maybe 2 and finally got one for around $35. The original guy who passed on my offer has dropped his price slowly, but steadily, over time and is now around $50-60 and obviously he still has the card and is still trying to get more than it is worth. The lesson here is KNOW YOUR MARKET. His greed and probably the fact that he saw other big sales, fueled his desire to get the same for his card. However, he failed to recognize that the guy who pays the most already had his copy and the guy who is either #1 or #2 99% of the time submitted a "fair" offer. and then found his copy at or below that fair offer. He may sell it eventually to a one-off collector, maybe a set builder, but he missed the boat on the Garvey collectors.

Anyway, I won this card and it has given me an idea for a blog entry that I may or may not even write. Still, the gist of my thought is...what should the typical 1/1 card be valued at in today's market place? When the concept was first delivered to us in the middle to late 90s, a 1/1 was a true unicorn. Most collectors would never see one live, let alone actually be the person to unearth one from a pack. Those stories were what legends were made from. Since then, they (1/1s) have become much more common, almost commonplace, if that is believable. Lower print runs for products, more 1/1s per set issued, more players to choose from, etc. Many avid collectors who open enough product since the early 2000s have probably even pulled at least one of their own by now, where this once would have been a life changing event to any collector to even pull a common player 1/1 in the mid-late 90s. Given a lot of factors that differentiate 1/1s from each other (brand, card set, card type - base vs gu vs au, player, etc), there still should be a recognizable standard that each 1/1 would fall under in "normal" conditions. Being the only copy does not always translate into popularity and thus high value. Case in point, Bowman RC superfractor Au vs. a scrub base 1/1 from a minor league quality type issue (Just minors for example, or whatever the latest equal is to that). Both 1/1, but clearly not equal in value by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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Michael Busch regular and refractor. He is a 22 year old infielder prospect, not to be confused with a former Dodger player also named Michael Busch. The original Busch was a minor leaguer in theodgers system in the early 90s and had eventually been given a call-up to the main club in 1995. Busch had made news previously when he crossed the picket line during the labor dispute happening around that time, something that did not help him to succeed. However, the 6'5" career minor leaguer did get a shot in 51 games across the 95-96 seasons but hit poorly, ultimately being released by the Dodgers at the end of 1996. He would live out the remainder of his career back in the minors for a year, over to Korea and then in independent leagues until 2001. Let's hope the new Busch fairs a bit better.Busch 1.jpgBusch 2.jpg

Didn't realize Brown had another Yankee/Dodger auto, so now I have 2. This one /50, clearly shown as a Dodger, but the card indicates Yankees. Brown.jpg

I have this already, but I like them so much. Phil Garner /89. Garner came to the Dodgers in 1987 and spent 70 games with the team, hitting only .190. At least the Dodgers didn't give much up (minor leaguer) and when he left, it was as a free agaent. His career ended in SF in 1988 after 15 games.Garner.jpg

Same with Honeycutt /98. Honeycutt was an early Mariner and spent 5 seasons with the Dodgers (83-87). The Dodgers gave up Dave Stewart, a player to be named later (Wright) and $200K for Honeycutt. After retiring, Rick came back to the Dodgers and was their pitching coach from 2006-2019.

Honeycutt.jpg

Now the pre-Dodgers or no logos.

Busch again /25. Busch Purple 25.jpg

Pair of Hoese cards. The ticket is /23. Hoese is a 21 year infielder prospect as well, like Busch. Hoese Metal.jpgHoese 23.jpg

I also grabbed a few COMC cards today as well. I'll share those in post #2...
 

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Some fairly cheap COMC buys. I do love finding nice $1-3 autos that I don't have already. Mostly non-Dodger appearances in this category, but will grab up Dodger autos if I can too:

Antonio Perez. A member of the 2004-05 Dodgers, his best and most full season was 2005. He hit a respectable .297 in 98 games at 2B & 3B, but the Dodgers traded him and Milton Bradley to the A's for Andre Ethier. That was a good trade for the Dodgers. Perez lasted just 1 more partial year with the A's. Bradley would go on to play 6 more years, only 1 with Oakland. Ethier, of course, became a fan favorite and spent 12 solid years with the Dodgers, including a couple AS appearances, a gold glove and a silver slugger. Antonio-Perez.jpg

(2) Juan Rivera cards. Rivera ended his 12 year career with a final stop in LA. He played parts of 2011 and 2012 for the Dodgers. Juan-Rivera.jpgJuan-Rivera-1.jpg

Skip Schmaker. Skip spend 2013 with the Dodgers. Nothing much to remember there. Skip-Schumaker.jpg

Joe Wieland /25. Joe pitched 2 games for the 2015 Dodgers. A career 1-6 pitcher, one of those games was a loss. Wieland came to the Dodgers with Yasmani Grandal in the deal that sent Matt Kemp to San Diego. I'd like to grab the green parallel too, which has sat on COMC for years, but the guy wants $10 (or at least $8). I know it is /10, but the guy was 1-6 in a 12 game across a 4 year career! I don't care if it is a 1/1, he's a $5 card at best in my book and only that to me because he pitched those 2 games for the Dodgers. Joe-Wieland.jpg
 

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