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Congrats Ichiro, CC Sabathia and Billy Wagner!
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Wagner is statistically the most dominant closer of all time. He should have been in a long time ago. On talent and rate performance he's quite a bit better than Rivera. He just didn't have tons of Yankee induced 3 run cushion saves to convert.Huge Billy Wags fan here, but he's not a HOFer IMO.
Or is CC, although he's closer.
I was a huge Harold Baines fan too, but he ain't a HOFer either...
Try not to take this personally, as you represent many 1000s of similar minded people, but it sounds like you need to recalibrate your understanding of what makes/who is a Hall of Famer these days. This subject is hotly debated each year around election time and all year in between at the drop of a hat whenever anyone posts or speaks a comment about someone being in that doesn't deserve to be or who isn't in and does. Then cue all the back seat managers/quarterbacks who passionately express their opinions on who belongs and who doesn't, yet somehow it never affects the reality of the situation. All of them are in fact Hall of Famers despite anyone's feelings or opinions. Those that are not in yet may have a chance or they may not, but they are not yet Hall of Famers for this exercise, regardless of their resume. I know the debate will never cease, but it has gotten extremely old to see the same worn out arguments as to why Player A or B doesn't belong or why Player X or Y does and has been shunned.Huge Billy Wags fan here, but he's not a HOFer IMO.
Or is CC, although he's closer.
I was a huge Harold Baines fan too, but he ain't a HOFer either...
I don't know the details about this person, but previously, some writers said that NO player was worthy of unanimous entry. That's what the one guy who voted against Schmidt had said. Another guy said that since Ruth, Mays, etc. hadn't gotten in unanimously, then no one should.I did also want to add that my first reaction was to suggest the 1 voter who didn't vote for Ichiro should be stripped of their right to vote like many are saying, but in the end it is something that we can't control either. For every Baines, Wagner or Al Lopez, there is a Mays, Aaron or Ruth who was surely shorted by not being unanimously voted themselves, since they are the highest standard. its actually quite ridiculous that only 1 player of all time was able to garner the unanimous vote despite all the greats who have faced the vote and yet a player who may likely have been the most prolific professional hitter of all time still gets shunned by one person. I would love to hear the reason why this voted felt Ichiro doesn't even belong in the Hall of Fame.
Your use of the words "these days" are exactly what I was talking about.Try not to take this personally, as you represent many 1000s of similar minded people, but it sounds like you need to recalibrate your understanding of what makes/who is a Hall of Famer these days. This subject is hotly debated each year around election time and all year in between at the drop of a hat whenever anyone posts or speaks a comment about someone being in that doesn't deserve to be or who isn't in and does. Then cue all the back seat managers/quarterbacks who passionately express their opinions on who belongs and who doesn't, yet somehow it never affects the reality of the situation. All of them are in fact Hall of Famers despite anyone's feelings or opinions. Those that are not in yet may have a chance or they may not, but they are not yet Hall of Famers for this exercise, regardless of their resume. I know the debate will never cease, but it has gotten extremely old to see the same worn out arguments as to why Player A or B doesn't belong or why Player X or Y does and has been shunned.
I continue to enjoy and appreciate how my Hall of Fame autograph collection grows by a few names each year, even if I don't buy a single one. I recognize and welcome each new enshrinee with the respect they rightfully and officially deserve.
Having no HOF worthy 1st timers in 2026 should raise the chances for Beltran and Jones in particular next year. I think it probably takes Utley an extra year but he should see a substantial bounce next year.I do sometimes wonder if the Committee is too worried about a year with no inductions.
And that leads to changes in the standard.
For instance, I don't see anyone even close to a HOFer on this list.
A lot of players I enjoyed watching, EE, Gio, Hamels and even Wieters (GT and O's!) but not HOFers.
It will help Utley and maybe the Steroid guys but I think the standard for HOF shouldn't change with the vote counts.
IMO, IF you're a HOFer, you're a HOFer, no matter who the competitors that year are...
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I wouldn't have a big problem with Murphy but to me, Mattingly is the only HOFer in that group.
Beltran yes, Andruw no for me...