Opinions on how to leave feedback for this card.

[Resident Bay Fan]

I bought this card,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=016

Got it in the mail the other day and was not happy. I've bought cards many times before with "not all the card showing in the scan" and have not had a problem. Well, I open the bubblemailer and see that the card has a bunch of chipping along the top of it. As you can see in the scan, seller cropped that part out and did not mention it in the auction. What do you think?

Art

 

[nyc3]

Email the seller and see what he says.

Also I would like to point the irony in this auction "THIS CARD IS A TRUE 1 OF 1 AT A TIME WHEN 1 OF 1'S WERE VERY RARE." :lol:

 

[Wes]

I bought this card,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=016

Got it in the mail the other day and was not happy. I've bought cards many times before with "not all the card showing in the scan" and have not had a problem. Well, I open the bubblemailer and see that the card has a bunch of chipping along the top of it. As you can see in the scan, seller cropped that part out and did not mention it in the auction. What do you think?

Art

Send it back.

 

[blanning71]

I agree with NYC, in that I would contact the seller and see if you two can work things out. It was shady that the edges were cropped out. I would probably leave a neutral at worst as you did get the card. Even though the condition was poor, its not like you got cheated alltogether. I hate situations like this.

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

Yes, email the seller and see what he says. I'm very adiment about not leaving negatives unless you didn't recieve the item. Since you have the card in hand, I'd say give him a neutral and explain in the neutral the condition and the potential "cover-up" of the seller

 

[nyc3]

Also if you leave the negative you ruin all chances of working something out possibly now he would be willing to refund some of the money or something, you drop that negative and use your last bullet you may just get a refund with a huge headache.

 

[phillyfan0417]

I bought this card,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=016

Got it in the mail the other day and was not happy. I've bought cards many times before with "not all the card showing in the scan" and have not had a problem. Well, I open the bubblemailer and see that the card has a bunch of chipping along the top of it. As you can see in the scan, seller cropped that part out and did not mention it in the auction. What do you think?

Art

If you saw the scan, would you have still bought it or paid less?

 

[marterburn]

I agree that communicating with seller is the first avenue here.

But in this case only, as it is a 1 of 1 and cannot be replaced, I would leave a positive, give him two stars for description accuracy, and then in the feedback description say something about the masked damage.

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

I agree that communicating with seller is the first avenue here.

But in this case only, as it is a 1 of 1 and cannot be replaced, I would leave a positive, give him two stars for description accuracy, and then in the feedback description say something about the masked damage.

Not a true 1/1. It is #'d/50. Don't get me wrong, a great card nonetheless

 

[All The Hype]

I agree that communicating with seller is the first avenue here.

But in this case only, as it is a 1 of 1 and cannot be replaced, I would leave a positive, give him two stars for description accuracy, and then in the feedback description say something about the masked damage.

I agree. Gotta email the seller about this before anything though.

 

[Resident Bay Fan]

Well I did email him/her and have yet to hear anything. This was the way I thought it should go, but if they don't reply at all, then I don't think a positive is warranted(sp?).

Not a true 1/1. It is #'d/50. Don't get me wrong, a great card nonetheless

Technically it is a 1/1 as it is the only one that is a "Foil" card. The 1st one in the set has a foiled front, and the other 49 do not.

If you saw the scan, would you have still bought it or paid less?

I would have tried to pay less, but if they didn't come down on the price, then I would not have bought it.

Send it back.

I'd rather not, as it is the only 1 in existence.

Art

 

[wolfmanalfredo]

Well I did email him/her and have yet to hear anything. This was the way I thought it should go, but if they don't reply at all, then I don't think a positive is warranted(sp?).

Not a true 1/1. It is #'d/50. Don't get me wrong, a great card nonetheless

Technically it is a 1/1 as it is the only one that is a "Foil" card. The 1st one in the set has a foiled front, and the other 49 do not.

If you saw the scan, would you have still bought it or paid less?

I would have tried to pay less, but if they didn't come down on the price, then I would not have bought it.

Send it back.

I'd rather not, as it is the only 1 in existence.

Art

I stand corrected

 

[matfanofold]

Although its not stamped 1/1 it actually is a 1/1 as only the first 1/50 (card in question) got the special foil coating. (whick are known for chipping). So, because it is a one of a kind, it is infact a 1/1 despite the confusing numbering. If a Griffey Jr RC was numbered to 500 and only the 1/500 had a cert auto on it, would it not still be considered a 1/1 despite the numbering? It would in my book and no opinion is more factual..

Secondly, there is no mention of condition in the auction so thats a flag of buyer beware. But ultimatly, if your not happy with the card, you contact the seller. If he is unwilling to work with you, then if you feel a poorly and/or decptive crop/pic is worth a neg, then do so. Ultimatly, It's up to you. It's still a NICE card despite a bit of chipping..

 

[blanning71]

Although its not stamped 1/1 it actually is a 1/1 as only the first 1/50 (card in question) got the special foil coating. (whick are known for chipping). So, because it is a one of a kind, it is infact a 1/1 despite the confusing numbering. If a Griffey Jr RC was numbered to 500 and only the 1/500 had a cert auto on it, would it not still be considered a 1/1 despite the numbering? It would in my book and no opinion is more factual..

Secondly, there is no mention of condition in the auction so thats a flag of buyer beware. But ultimatly, if your not happy with the card, you contact the seller. If he is unwilling to work with you, then if you feel a poorly and/or decptive crop/pic is worth a neg, then do so. Ultimatly, It's up to you. It's still a NICE card despite a bit of chipping..

I bolded the part about condition. I don't put anything in my auctions about condition as I have heard that unless you are selling a graded card, condition is in the eye of the collector. I used to put that my cards were mint but after hearing a few horror stories where the buyers over scrutinized the card, I decided to stop doing it. I am not the best judge on the condition of cards, however, I have a pretty good set of standards as far as that goes. I may not be as critical as those that grade cards on a regular basis though. Do I need to go back to putting a condition statement in my auctions as to avoid throwing up a red flag to potential buyers?

 

[i43770]

Positive

They didn't mention the chipping, but they also didn't say that it was any better than what you received. About getting a refund, I doubt that would happen from the seller or Paypal. The card is as described, you received the card that was #d 1/50 and that is all that was described.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[matfanofold]

Although its not stamped 1/1 it actually is a 1/1 as only the first 1/50 (card in question) got the special foil coating. (whick are known for chipping). So, because it is a one of a kind, it is infact a 1/1 despite the confusing numbering. If a Griffey Jr RC was numbered to 500 and only the 1/500 had a cert auto on it, would it not still be considered a 1/1 despite the numbering? It would in my book and no opinion is more factual..

Secondly, there is no mention of condition in the auction so thats a flag of buyer beware. But ultimatly, if your not happy with the card, you contact the seller. If he is unwilling to work with you, then if you feel a poorly and/or decptive crop/pic is worth a neg, then do so. Ultimatly, It's up to you. It's still a NICE card despite a bit of chipping..

I bolded the part about condition. I don't put anything in my auctions about condition as I have heard that unless you are selling a graded card, condition is in the eye of the collector. I used to put that my cards were mint but after hearing a few horror stories where the buyers over scrutinized the card, I decided to stop doing it. I am not the best judge on the condition of cards, however, I have a pretty good set of standards as far as that goes. I may not be as critical as those that grade cards on a regular basis though. Do I need to go back to putting a condition statement in my auctions as to avoid throwing up a red flag to potential buyers?

Personally, I've collecting long enough, and have been within the hobbly long enough to know what NM-MT means, and that is what I put in most all my auctions "NM-MT" unless otherwise noted. And I also always scan the actual card stating the scan is the true and final representation of condition. Once and a while I put MINT, but only if condition warrents it.

Ultimatly, this means you have to understand what condition(s) mean. You have to visually inspect each and every card and be fair and honest. I would not even attempt to sell a lesser than NM-MT card because its just easire for me that way. When I'm going to sell a card, I take a few seconds to look at it and ask myself the question "Would I like to recieve this card, in this condition expecting a NM-MT card?", if for ANY reason the answer is no, it does not make my auction(s).

I know this takes a few more seconds to do, but I know a lot of people who will not buy without mention of condition and/or a good scan. And ultimatly, I feel it has helped my sales... I think its worth it to do if you can stand behind your product as examined and in NM-MT (or better) condition. 99% of the time, the horror stories you are refering to, comes down to an inaccurate lable of condition rather than an unequal understanding of grading.

Just my 2 though..

 

[Resident Bay Fan]

I understand what you all are saying as far as condition and all, but I don't feel that I should have to ask every single seller about condition of the card if they put up a scan of said card. BUT, I also think that this seller intentionally cropped out the chipping and didn't mention condition in the auction to try and take advantage of the rarity(sp?) of the card, and hope that some one like myself would hit the BIN so as not to lose out on such a rare card. I'm also betting that he doesn't reply to my message and just tries to blow it off. I'll give him until Saturday to respond, and then decide how to leave feedback. Right now I'm leaning toward neutral with an abrasive description.

Art

 

[blanning71]

I appreciate the clarification matfan--I have a pretty decent eye for the condition of the cards themselves. However, I know some people may not always agree with my evaluation of the card. Some people have much higher or different standards than I do. I have sold a couple of cards that had minor flaws and I noted that in the auction as the cards were relatively rare issues and I figured people would still want them even with the minor flaw. I will consider this from now on when I list my stuff. Thanks!

 

[matfanofold]

I appreciate the clarification matfan--I have a pretty decent eye for the condition of the cards themselves. However, I know some people may not always agree with my evaluation of the card. Some people have much higher or different standards than I do. I have sold a couple of cards that had minor flaws and I noted that in the auction as the cards were relatively rare issues and I figured people would still want them even with the minor flaw. I will consider this from now on when I list my stuff. Thanks!

Hey, no problem. And perhaps not putting a grade makes things a bit easier to avoid the odd complaint, but in the long run, it adds a bit of reassurance to a perspective buyer looking to spend. If the seller of the card in question had put a condition within the auction description as NM-MT and he recieved the 'flawed in his eyes' card, he then would have a valid and legitamite gripe as its chipped and not in NM-MT condition. Thus, asking and expecting for a refund would be acceptable. However, without a condition refrence, hes all but obligated to accept it and just be neutral...

What do you want to offer your buyers? THe chance to be assured and confident in the purchace, or obligated to accept and be 'neutral'?

 

[blanning71]

I want to give them every opportunity to buy the best condition card I can provide them. I see what you did here. It makes sense.