Panini a Nice bang for your buck?

[predatorkj]

I opened a blaster and two rack packs of the 2010-11 donruss and I have to say...I honestly think its a pretty good product with some nice inserts. Couple that with the donruss football rookies set I purchased and I really think Panini is on to something. I know numbered cards aren't that big of a deal nowdays but for what I paid...I got a pretty damn good deal. Also...not having to go further than the nearest walmart to land these kinds of cards is a mega plus. I pulled a Colt McCoy auto out of the football set and its sp'd to /25. I also got several numbered cards(one numbered to /25 even) as well as two GU jersey cards(both numbered) and also a ton of cards(162 total) out of the donruss basketball . I found it odd but I really feel like they actually care about the consumer. Like they are trying to not only come up with some innovative ideas but also take care of you whether its retail or hobby. I can't wait to bust some of their hobby stuff. Cause if its anything like the retail...I'll be really happy.

Anyone else feel this way? You think they have really raised the bar? I'd love to see them get a baseball license.

 

[rico08]

I think the main beef with Panini thus far is the prominence of redemptions. Example: 2010/11 Limited basketball has seven cards and three hits. I've seen boxes with just one live hit and two redemptions--even for simple jersey cards.

All things considered, however, Panini does a good job trying to give collectors what they want. They still have a mix of both on-card and sticker autos like Topps but most products have at least 3 hits. Customer service is pretty good which helps too.

My gripe has to do with the incredibly soft secondary market for jerseys, patches, and autograph of players not LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Durant, etc. Another example: Tim Duncan 2 color patch for under $10. That price is good for the person who doesn't enjoy the rip n' flip.

 

[predatorkj]

I think the main beef with Panini thus far is the prominence of redemptions. Example: 2010/11 Limited basketball has seven cards and three hits. I've seen boxes with just one live hit and two redemptions--even for simple jersey cards.

All things considered, however, Panini does a good job trying to give collectors what they want. They still have a mix of both on-card and sticker autos like Topps but most products have at least 3 hits. Customer service is pretty good which helps too.

My gripe has to do with the incredibly soft secondary market for jerseys, patches, and autograph of players not LeBron, Kobe, Wade, Durant, etc. Another example: Tim Duncan 2 color patch for under $10. That price is good for the person who doesn't enjoy the rip n' flip.

All I know is I bust a slew of retail mostly to put sets together and then I finish em up either at my local shop or on sportlots. After all the years of busting UD and Topps, I have to say I get way more with panini products. Granted I do hear you about the redemptions. I pulled one actually already. But you have to admit that some of the other companies don't provide this good of a break on a $20 blaster or even a $5 rack pack. I am seeing the type of hits in these that I normally see in a hobby box. Granted I don't do high end. But normally I'll pay anywhere from $45-$70 for a hobby box over the last few years and be granted maybe 1 auto, two GU, and two numbered cards. If I purchased retail and spent that much...I'd have maybe one or two jersey cards and maybe 1 or two numbered cards. So so far for $40 I have gotten what I normally get out of a hobby box. That's pretty dang good IMO. At least it doesn't make you feel that bad for spending money at retail.

 

[predatorkj]

Oh and btw...granted that Kobe and the like are superstars...but the price for autos of super star basketball players is just beyond me. Baseball is a little different. I'll eventually own an A-Rod and Jeter auto. Maybe even a Ryan Howard and a Pujols(certified card auto). But I'll never own a Durant or a Kobe auto on a card. Its just way too expensive. I may eventually pull one. But I'll never be able to commit the funds to purchase one. The prices for them are outrageous compared to baseball. Football I am not sure on.