"True" Gems - The Hobby Poll

[gracecollector]

I think I need to know how you are defining it before I say I agree/disagree.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

I think I need to know how you are defining it before I say I agree/disagree.

like this..........

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

D: All grading is fabricated doo-doo. As long as it isn't bent in half, have fuzzy corners or surface, and isn't horribly miscut its a good card.

That said, I know grading isn't going anywhere, and if I were collecting graded cards I'd prefer an all 9.5 to a 9.5 with 9.0 subs due to the added rarity.

Craig

 

[gracecollector]

I think I need to know how you are defining it before I say I agree/disagree.

like this..........

So are you saying a BGS 9.5 with no subs below 9.5? Then I vote for fabricated bunch of doo-doo.
A true gem is a BGS 10. Why should anything less be a true gem when there is something higher? A 9.5 is just a Gem. A 10 is a True Gem, and a 10 with all 10 subs is a Perfect Gem.

It's all baloney anyway.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

A BGS10 is Pristine

 

[All The Hype]

I think I need to know how you are defining it before I say I agree/disagree.

like this..........

So are you saying a BGS 9.5 with no subs below 9.5? Then I vote for fabricated bunch of doo-doo.
A true gem is a BGS 10. Why should anything less be a true gem when there is something higher? A 9.5 is just a Gem. A 10 is a True Gem, and a 10 with all 10 subs is a Perfect Gem.

It's all baloney anyway.

PRISTINE

 

[billwasbeth]

Out of a slab...my guess is most people here would struggle to tell the difference between a 9.5 and 9....and most likely the same is true for a 9.5 vs a 8.5.

 

[phillyfan0417]

FWIW I voted doo doo although I have started only buying gems with no 9's because i'm planning to sell in the future and people do pay more attention to them.

 

[Frow]

It does seem silly that people put so much stock into the main grade of 9.5 or 9, but then couldn't give a crap about the subs

 

[daveyou]

as long as it's a gold label, that is all i care about!

plus, i've noticed that although i do not buy many slabbed cards, i would treat a 9.5, 9.5, 9.5, 9 as the same as 10, 10, 9.5, 9.5 (this is 9.5, right?) in terms of my spending

dave

 

[cgilmo]

It does seem silly that people put so much stock into the main grade of 9.5 or 9, but then couldn't give a crap about the subs

the subs are what makes the main grade.

If you give a crap about the main grade, you give a crap about the subs. However most of us arent anal enough to require a 9.5 all the way around. I don't like off center cards, so i perfer a 9.5 centering grade.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

It does seem silly that people put so much stock into the main grade of 9.5 or 9, but then couldn't give a crap about the subs

the subs are what makes the main grade.

If you give a crap about the main grade, you give a crap about the subs. However most of us arent anal enough to require a 9.5 all the way around. I don't like off center cards, so i perfer a 9.5 centering grade.

ZINGER!!! :lol:

 

[bballcardkid]

as long as it's a gold label, that is all i care about!

plus, i've noticed that although i do not buy many slabbed cards, i would treat a 9.5, 9.5, 9.5, 9 as the same as 10, 10, 9.5, 9.5 (this is 9.5, right?) in terms of my spending

dave

Me too.

 

[masonphillip]

A couple thoughts.

1. I believe you can tell the difference between an 8.5 and a 9.5, think of cards like Elite etc., the edges and corners are all dinged on an 8.5 and on the very small % of 9.5s this is not the case.

2. That leads me to my second thought, I like 9.5s simply because nicely centered clean cards look much nicer than those that aren't. How awful do the white chrome border cards look that are way o/c, ugh.

 

[jcmint]

A gem is a gem in my book. I too agree on centering but I have seen 9 centered cards that look 50/50 and on the other hand I have seen them at 70/30 too. I am all about the gold label. Sales wise I have never received more for 4 9.5's then 3 9.5's. I do not think it makes that much of a difference. To each his own.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

A gem is a gem in my book. I too agree on centering but I have seen 9 centered cards that look 50/50 and on the other hand I have seen them at 70/30 too. I am all about the gold label. Sales wise I have never received more for 4 9.5's then 3 9.5's. I do not think it makes that much of a difference. To each his own.

i can think of at least one idiot that pays more for True Gems

 

[cgilmo]

I was discussing a deal with blitzerlover the otherday.

The breaking point was I was offering a gem, and he wanted a true gem. Some people do care about it apparently.

 

[flightposite]

Aren't options 2 and 3 basically the same thing?

 

[Nick1190]

Aren't options 2 and 3 basically the same thing?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Incline Investments]

It doesn't matter at all.

9.5s are 9.5s no matter what the subs are, and I rarely see premiums for them.