What the heck is the deal here?

[bigalbert]

So I own the mirror black auto 1/1 below-

Now check out this ebay auction-
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Leaf-C...731912?hash=item54411de848:g:i80AAOSwZQRYa8Hv
I payed a pretty good ticket for the one I have, now its not really a 1/1 is it

 

[nerdherd020]

The serial number of the one listed on eBay looks a little off. Have a scan of the back of yours?

 

[linuxabuser]

Bingo ^^

The card that's listed on eBay was likely backdoored and stamped afterwards. The font is wrong.

 

[nerdherd020]

Here's a pic of a Jeter Mirror Black listed on eBay side-by-side with the Ripken you linked to. The serial number should look like the one on the Jeter.

The Ripken currently listed is likely a backdoored replacement which was stamped by someone other than Donruss.

I have a Mark Mulder 2002 Leaf Certified Mirror Black Patch which is NOT NUMBERED. I purchased it off eBay and the listing specifically stated that it was a replacement housed in Donruss' vault.

 

[bigalbert]

Here's a pic of a Jeter Mirror Black listed on eBay. This is what the serial number should look like.

The Ripken currently listed is likely a backdoored replacement which was stamped by someone other than Donruss.

I have a Mark Mulder 2002 Leaf Certified Mirror Black Patch which is NOT NUMBERED. I purchased it off eBay and the listing specifically stated that it was a replacement housed in Donruss' vault.

I don't have a pic but mine is like the font you posted.
I'm thinking about buying it and destroying it, depends what it brings

 

[michaelstepper]

def the possibility of a replacement being backdoored and stamped after. damnnd
best of luck

 

[Zan]

And it's a Probstein auction, nonetheless -____-

 

[Tom Oates]

Yep, I own several 2003 Leaf Certified serial numbered cards and I can tell you that the one being sold is totally bogus. The font on the serial number is WAY off! Notice that the bottom of the number 1's look like they have a line under them whereas yours does not... none of my cards do either. Also, the zeroes look too round.

 

[forgerelli]

I don't have a pic but mine is like the font you posted.
I'm thinking about buying it and destroying it, depends what it brings

Dude. Don't do that.

I have two copies of the same "1/1" card from Topps. The mini mini's pulled from mini rip cards from 2014 Allen & Ginters. I count them both in my 1'1's. I sure paid enough for them to count.

Shown here with the 1/1 glossy box topper and 1/1 mini wood for comparison:



Scott F

 

[AnthonyCorona]

I'm always impressed by how many members can instantly spot things like the numbering looking off.

Collecting: Phil Bickford, Brandon Wood (still), Yankees and Rockies

 

[MisterT]

I am no expert here, but it is more than the font. Here is a snip of the bottom of the cards, notice the image in the far right...



Those logos are not the same. The Jeter is on the left.

 

[Zan]

Dude. Don't do that.

I have two copies of the same "1/1" card from Topps. The mini mini's pulled from mini rip cards from 2014 Allen & Ginters. I count them both in my 1'1's. I sure paid enough for them to count.

Shown here with the 1/1 glossy box topper and 1/1 mini wood for comparison:

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Scott F

But the difference here is that you own genuine cards. The card in the auction is not a genuine DLP issued 1/1. I would agree with bigalbert's sentiment to want to destroy it, it's a fake.

 

[LWMM]

I don't have a pic but mine is like the font you posted.
I'm thinking about buying it and destroying it, depends what it brings

If you bought it, you could also seek to have Beckett buy it back from you on the basis that they erred in authentication. My understanding is that PSA will buy back their errors, perhaps Beckett does too.

 

[bigalbert]

If you bought it, you could also seek to have Beckett buy it back from you on the basis that they erred in authentication. My understanding is that PSA will buy back their errors, perhaps Beckett does too.

That is something I did not know, thanks for that info

 

[bigalbert]

I am no expert here, but it is more than the font. Here is a snip of the bottom of the cards, notice the image in the far right...

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Those logos are not the same. The Jeter is on the left.

Good eye MisterT

 

[KLARNOLD]

Why does the Ripken auction card have the copyright line on back of card: "2003 Cal Ripken, Jr. under exclusive license authorized by Ripken Baseball, Inc./Schulte Sports Marketing Inc., www.ripkenbaseball.com"?

 

[gracecollector]

Good eye MisterT

Jeter was an active player, thus the MLB Player's Logo; Ripken was a retired HOFer, thus the Cooperstown Logo. This is common practice still today for HOFers. DLP was correct here. Like others have said, auction is a backdoored card.

 

[goobmcnasty]

If you bought it, you could also seek to have Beckett buy it back from you on the basis that they erred in authentication. My understanding is that PSA will buy back their errors, perhaps Beckett does too.

The only thing Beckett is guilty of is grading the signature a 10. It is exactly what they say it is: A real card, autographed by Ripken.

 

[MisterT]

Jeter was an active player, thus the MLB Player's Logo; Ripken was a retired HOFer, thus the Cooperstown Logo. This is common practice still today for HOFers. DLP was correct here. Like others have said, auction is a backdoored card.

Well, like I said, I am no expert on it. Good info.

 

[RStadlerASU22]

The only thing Beckett is guilty of is grading the signature a 10. It is exactly what they say it is: A real card, autographed by Ripken.

Yes the auto grade is horrible. But it's not a 100% real card, it's an altered real card. That's the issue.

Ryan

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