When will they do something about Kobe's Elbows?

[Uofo2212]

"Maybe one day the NBA will step in and stop such a dangerous behavior".....nope they won't. They didn't do it to stop Rodman, Karl Malone, Mutumbo....not to mention some of the old school NBA players. They didn't stop calling Reggie Millers leg kick.....I saw plenty of elbows thrown in the Nuggets series, with very few by Kobe. Further like the post above there are too many floppers these days (yes to include Pau) that would halt the game everytime they had to act in another scene. I do agree with you in the sense that elbows above the neck are extremely dangerous, like beaning a player in the head in baseball....and I would hope nobody wants to see any players seriously injured.

 

[Card Magnet]

Some will say that the playoffs aren't for "censored with *", but expect a foul if Kobe were sneezed on. This isn't directed at all true Kobe fans, or even the people who jumped on the Kobe Wagon after LeBron's wagon lost it's wheels.

As for you being a Varejao fan Kutzy...well I'm just sorry to hear that . It doesn't make much sense if you connect the lines. The Magic beat the Cavs (with Varejao). The Magic are playing the Lakers. You will now pull for the Magic. I fail to see the line of logic there of how you are pro-Magic, or how that makes you anti-Lakers.

Nothing will be done at this stage, as it is the playoffs. Something does need to be done, because that could case some real injury (not to mention it is a foul). It may not be intentional, but that doesn't make it right. Although, he knows that when he does it, what can happen. That's why he does it. It doesn't make his ball magically curve in midair to the basket. It is done to make players pay a price if they want to play D.

Perhaps somebody needs to throw a 'bow into somebody's face for them to see how much impact it does. If it goes into your jaw like that, it can do real damage. Just from personal experience, you can lose vision biefly, become disoriented, and get a massive headache (ah, good times in the alleys after school).

Maybe we should get Ron Artest to have a talk with Kobe... "Do you know who you're hitting!? I'm Ron Artest!" :lol:

 

[brokenliz1]

[quote="KOBEARODLT":nnyqx59i]ok well than i could say they need to do something about the no call when pietrus hit kobes wrist and which made him airball, or how about when howard pushed down gasol and fisher got called for the push against howard...calls go both ways

I agree 100%, however to think that Elboes to the face, jaw and chin are not dangerous is VERY naive on your part. And this isnt a 1 time deal, this happens fairly often with Kobe as has been demonstrated throughout these playoffs. Something Should be done, however all know it wont be. They took a positive step 2 years ago when Kobe was literally hitting people guarding him on jumpshots. He was eventually suspended for something he called "natural". He has a history of using his elbows and arms in an illegial and dangerous manner. This is just another example of that.

yeah your right its extremely dangerous ::facepalm:: diving after a ball and getting hit isnt worst, or twisting an ankle, your acting like kobe did it on purpose....as i said before playoffs arent for P*****S

I absolutely do think its on purpose. He has done it consistantly for years now.

haha your a real smart one arent you.....he was looking the other way and had the ball in the air and swung the other way while jameer was coming over...theres no way he could have seen him...YOU CANT BE SERIOUS?

Not only do I believe he did that on purpose I believe he elbowed Dwight on purpose as well.

Like I said said before he has a history of doing these things. He has been disciplined by the league for doing similar acts. Why is it so hard to believe he is still doing it?[/quote:nnyqx59i]

Ok, without getting you guy's personal argument....I do believe that Kobe's elbow in this case was an accident.It still should have been called if a ref saw it.Pietrus should have consequenses for his move on Gasol too.I don't think it matters how frustrated you are that is not right as an NBA player.I wouldn't do that at the park.Just my opinion though.

 

[Card Magnet]

[quote="Kutzy":23b4f302][quote="KOBEARODLT":23b4f302]ok well than i could say they need to do something about the no call when pietrus hit kobes wrist and which made him airball, or how about when howard pushed down gasol and fisher got called for the push against howard...calls go both ways

I agree 100%, however to think that Elboes to the face, jaw and chin are not dangerous is VERY naive on your part. And this isnt a 1 time deal, this happens fairly often with Kobe as has been demonstrated throughout these playoffs. Something Should be done, however all know it wont be. They took a positive step 2 years ago when Kobe was literally hitting people guarding him on jumpshots. He was eventually suspended for something he called "natural". He has a history of using his elbows and arms in an illegial and dangerous manner. This is just another example of that.

yeah your right its extremely dangerous ::facepalm:: diving after a ball and getting hit isnt worst, or twisting an ankle, your acting like kobe did it on purpose....as i said before playoffs arent for P*****S

I absolutely do think its on purpose. He has done it consistantly for years now.

haha your a real smart one arent you.....he was looking the other way and had the ball in the air and swung the other way while jameer was coming over...theres no way he could have seen him...YOU CANT BE SERIOUS?

Not only do I believe he did that on purpose I believe he elbowed Dwight on purpose as well.

Like I said said before he has a history of doing these things. He has been disciplined by the league for doing similar acts. Why is it so hard to believe he is still doing it?[/quote:23b4f302]

Ok, without getting you guy's personal argument....I do believe that Kobe's elbow in this case was an accident.It still should have been called if a ref saw it.Pietrus should have consequenses for his move on Gasol too.I don't think it matters how frustrated you are that is not right as an NBA player.I wouldn't do that at the park.Just my opinion though.[/quote:23b4f302]
For some reason I can't get NBA.com to load (neither wil MLB or NFL, and a few other sites). Was anything done to Pietrus for that incident with Gasol? It would be deserved.

 

[brokenliz1]

[quote="KOBEARODLT":dagmw9l5][quote="Kutzy":dagmw9l5][quote="KOBEARODLT":dagmw9l5]ok well than i could say they need to do something about the no call when pietrus hit kobes wrist and which made him airball, or how about when howard pushed down gasol and fisher got called for the push against howard...calls go both ways

I agree 100%, however to think that Elboes to the face, jaw and chin are not dangerous is VERY naive on your part. And this isnt a 1 time deal, this happens fairly often with Kobe as has been demonstrated throughout these playoffs. Something Should be done, however all know it wont be. They took a positive step 2 years ago when Kobe was literally hitting people guarding him on jumpshots. He was eventually suspended for something he called "natural". He has a history of using his elbows and arms in an illegial and dangerous manner. This is just another example of that.

yeah your right its extremely dangerous ::facepalm:: diving after a ball and getting hit isnt worst, or twisting an ankle, your acting like kobe did it on purpose....as i said before playoffs arent for P*****S

I absolutely do think its on purpose. He has done it consistantly for years now.

haha your a real smart one arent you.....he was looking the other way and had the ball in the air and swung the other way while jameer was coming over...theres no way he could have seen him...YOU CANT BE SERIOUS?

Not only do I believe he did that on purpose I believe he elbowed Dwight on purpose as well.

Like I said said before he has a history of doing these things. He has been disciplined by the league for doing similar acts. Why is it so hard to believe he is still doing it?[/quote:dagmw9l5]

Ok, without getting you guy's personal argument....I do believe that Kobe's elbow in this case was an accident.It still should have been called if a ref saw it.Pietrus should have consequenses for his move on Gasol too.I don't think it matters how frustrated you are that is not right as an NBA player.I wouldn't do that at the park.Just my opinion though.[/quote:dagmw9l5]
For some reason I can't get NBA.com to load (neither wil MLB or NFL, and a few other sites). Was anything done to Pietrus for that incident with Gasol? It would be deserved.[/quote:dagmw9l5]

Nope.They were both given tech's for the arguing after but nothing else.

 

[Kutzy]

At a minimum Pietrus should have gotten a fine. Def. deserved a flagrant 1 for that.

 

[BGSRCGUY]

At a minimum Pietrus should have gotten a fine. Def. deserved a flagrant 1 for that.

He got a Flagrant and a technical in the game. That's why Pau shot two freethrows... It was a and 1 and he shot 2 freethrows in the game and the Lakers got the ball. He already got the flagrant during the game.

 

[Kutzy]

At a minimum Pietrus should have gotten a fine. Def. deserved a flagrant 1 for that.

He got a Flagrant and a technical in the game. That's why Pau shot two freethrows... It was a and 1 and he shot 2 freethrows in the game and the Lakers got the ball. He already got the flagrant during the game.

I know, but he never got a fine. I think he should have been fined for the act instead of them just sweeping it under the rug.

 

[KandKCards]

Anyone who doesn't think Kobe's elbows are intentional needs a reality check. The dude gets about 10 techs a year for his flying elbows. That's not due to chance....

 

[BGSRCGUY]

Anyone who doesn't think Kobe's elbows are intentional needs a reality check. The dude gets about 10 techs a year for his flying elbows. That's not due to chance....

Since 01-02 he has had 2 years under 6 technical's. Every other year in the range of 11-15(this year being the highest with playoffs included). If he gets 10 technical's on elbows a year then he only averages 1 for arguing calls? Highly unlikely. Please provide proof to your statement, I need my reality check.


Also maybe you meant flagrant, since elbows are usually called that, in that case I only remember one situation where Kobe hit Mike Miler with a elbow and was suspended. I remember it became a big deal, because a week before Raja Bell clotheslined Kobe and nothing happened.

 

[Rickzcards]

Anyone who doesn't think Kobe's elbows are intentional needs a reality check. The dude gets about 10 techs a year for his flying elbows. That's not due to chance....

Since 01-02 he has had 2 years under 6 technical's. Every other year in the range of 11-15(this year being the highest with playoffs included). If he gets 10 technical's on elbows a year then he only averages 1 for arguing calls? Highly unlikely. Please provide proof to your statement, I need my reality check.


Also maybe you meant flagrant, since elbows are usually called that, in that case I only remember one situation where Kobe hit Mike Miler with a elbow and was suspended. I remember it became a big deal, because a week before Raja Bell clotheslined Kobe and nothing happened.

Exactly. Should Kobe have been called for a foul, sure. But the refs were already on the Magic's side in that game so crying over this one that he got away with is ridiculous. The officiating throughout the whole playoffs has been a joke. This post is pretty much just sour grapes. You're just a Kobe hater, pure and simple.

 

[Invest4thefuture]

Officiating hasn't just ruined the playoffs, it's ruined the entire NBA. If you wanna see real basketball, watch college hoops. But not "flashy" teams like UNC, fundamental teams that play with the intent of scoring on every possession and making it a priority to play tough, physical defense. They don't come up often, but every once in a while, under the right coach, you will find them. The average viewer will hate these teams because they don't score a whole lot or make fancy alley-oop plays. No, they play the game the right way. Bo Ryan has been known to do this with Wisconsin. Another example from this past year was Utah State, who ranked as one of the top teams in the country in offensive efficiency and field goal percentage. BYU and Washington St are also examples. These teams may not be year-round winners because in most instances, talent beats fundamentals, but at least they play the game the way it should be played, and that's what makes it enjoyable.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Officiating hasn't just ruined the playoffs, it's ruined the entire NBA. If you wanna see real basketball, watch college hoops. But not "flashy" teams like UNC, fundamental teams that play with the intent of scoring on every possession and making it a priority to play tough, physical defense. They don't come up often, but every once in a while, under the right coach, you will find them. The average viewer will hate these teams because they don't score a whole lot or make fancy alley-oop plays. No, they play the game the right way. Bo Ryan has been known to do this with Wisconsin. Another example from this past year was Utah State, who ranked as one of the top teams in the country in offensive efficiency and field goal percentage. BYU and Washington St are also examples. These teams may not be year-round winners because in most instances, talent beats fundamentals, but at least they play the game the way it should be played, and that's what makes it enjoyable.

nah im good, i dont want to watch players that i could beat myself, i like to watch the best players in the world which is the nba, officiating goes both way..people just like to blame it on that when there team doesnt win..plin and simple

 

[Kutzy]

Anyone who doesn't think Kobe's elbows are intentional needs a reality check. The dude gets about 10 techs a year for his flying elbows. That's not due to chance....

Since 01-02 he has had 2 years under 6 technical's. Every other year in the range of 11-15(this year being the highest with playoffs included). If he gets 10 technical's on elbows a year then he only averages 1 for arguing calls? Highly unlikely. Please provide proof to your statement, I need my reality check.


Also maybe you meant flagrant, since elbows are usually called that, in that case I only remember one situation where Kobe hit Mike Miler with a elbow and was suspended. I remember it became a big deal, because a week before Raja Bell clotheslined Kobe and nothing happened.

Mike Miller wasnt the only person he did it to durin gthat stretch. He wasnt suspened for doing it to him, he was warned before that because he had done it several times in a recent stretch of games that season.

 

[Anthony K.]

Officiating hasn't just ruined the playoffs, it's ruined the entire NBA. If you wanna see real basketball, watch college hoops. But not "flashy" teams like UNC, fundamental teams that play with the intent of scoring on every possession and making it a priority to play tough, physical defense. They don't come up often, but every once in a while, under the right coach, you will find them. The average viewer will hate these teams because they don't score a whole lot or make fancy alley-oop plays. No, they play the game the right way. Bo Ryan has been known to do this with Wisconsin. Another example from this past year was Utah State, who ranked as one of the top teams in the country in offensive efficiency and field goal percentage. BYU and Washington St are also examples. These teams may not be year-round winners because in most instances, talent beats fundamentals, but at least they play the game the way it should be played, and that's what makes it enjoyable.

nah im good, i dont want to watch players that i could beat myself, i like to watch the best players in the world which is the nba, officiating goes both way..people just like to blame it on that when there team doesnt win..plin and simple

congrats you are the first person i have heard from three message boards and countless tv shows that has said that was on purpose.....im done arguing with you and your idiotic posts, it does nothing but dumb me down

Two delusional posts, in one thread? Amazing, absolutely amazing.

Your love for Kobe is well documented in your screen name and your many posts on the boards here, but to think anyone needs to help "dumb you down" and that "you could beat" college players yourself, is quite hilarious.

Kobe has been getting away with thrown/high elbows for a LONG time. In fact, for awhile there he was using the Reggie Miller "Kick Out on Jumpers" technique for awhile as well.

Did I see either of the plays mentioned? No. So I will not argue their merit. But I have seen enough basketball to know that he has, does and will throw elbows and use high elbows to do what he wants to do. It's almost as bad as when Bruce Bowen was trying to trip opponents a few years back. Ankle and head injuries are nothing to laugh at.

And being concerned for your own safety, regardless of regular season or playoffs, does not make you a *****.

 

[Card Magnet]

Officiating hasn't just ruined the playoffs, it's ruined the entire NBA. If you wanna see real basketball, watch college hoops. But not "flashy" teams like UNC, fundamental teams that play with the intent of scoring on every possession and making it a priority to play tough, physical defense. They don't come up often, but every once in a while, under the right coach, you will find them. The average viewer will hate these teams because they don't score a whole lot or make fancy alley-oop plays. No, they play the game the right way. Bo Ryan has been known to do this with Wisconsin. Another example from this past year was Utah State, who ranked as one of the top teams in the country in offensive efficiency and field goal percentage. BYU and Washington St are also examples. These teams may not be year-round winners because in most instances, talent beats fundamentals, but at least they play the game the way it should be played, and that's what makes it enjoyable.

nah im good, i dont want to watch players that i could beat myself, i like to watch the best players in the world which is the nba, officiating goes both way..people just like to blame it on that when there team doesnt win..plin and simple

Where all did you get basketball scholarships to?

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Officiating hasn't just ruined the playoffs, it's ruined the entire NBA. If you wanna see real basketball, watch college hoops. But not "flashy" teams like UNC, fundamental teams that play with the intent of scoring on every possession and making it a priority to play tough, physical defense. They don't come up often, but every once in a while, under the right coach, you will find them. The average viewer will hate these teams because they don't score a whole lot or make fancy alley-oop plays. No, they play the game the right way. Bo Ryan has been known to do this with Wisconsin. Another example from this past year was Utah State, who ranked as one of the top teams in the country in offensive efficiency and field goal percentage. BYU and Washington St are also examples. These teams may not be year-round winners because in most instances, talent beats fundamentals, but at least they play the game the way it should be played, and that's what makes it enjoyable.

nah im good, i dont want to watch players that i could beat myself, i like to watch the best players in the world which is the nba, officiating goes both way..people just like to blame it on that when there team doesnt win..plin and simple

congrats you are the first person i have heard from three message boards and countless tv shows that has said that was on purpose.....im done arguing with you and your idiotic posts, it does nothing but dumb me down

Two delusional posts, in one thread? Amazing, absolutely amazing.

Your love for Kobe is well documented in your screen name and your many posts on the boards here, but to think anyone needs to help "dumb you down" and that "you could beat" college players yourself, is quite hilarious.

Kobe has been getting away with thrown/high elbows for a LONG time. In fact, for awhile there he was using the Reggie Miller "Kick Out on Jumpers" technique for awhile as well.

Did I see either of the plays mentioned? No. So I will not argue their merit. But I have seen enough basketball to know that he has, does and will throw elbows and use high elbows to do what he wants to do. It's almost as bad as when Bruce Bowen was trying to trip opponents a few years back. Ankle and head injuries are nothing to laugh at.

And being concerned for your own safety, regardless of regular season or playoffs, does not make you a *****.

haha you didnt even watch the game and you are trying to make a point.....RIGHT, watch the play and you will see it was completely un intentional, even all the kobe haters on the other site agreed with that

 

[KOBEARODLT]

Officiating hasn't just ruined the playoffs, it's ruined the entire NBA. If you wanna see real basketball, watch college hoops. But not "flashy" teams like UNC, fundamental teams that play with the intent of scoring on every possession and making it a priority to play tough, physical defense. They don't come up often, but every once in a while, under the right coach, you will find them. The average viewer will hate these teams because they don't score a whole lot or make fancy alley-oop plays. No, they play the game the right way. Bo Ryan has been known to do this with Wisconsin. Another example from this past year was Utah State, who ranked as one of the top teams in the country in offensive efficiency and field goal percentage. BYU and Washington St are also examples. These teams may not be year-round winners because in most instances, talent beats fundamentals, but at least they play the game the way it should be played, and that's what makes it enjoyable.

nah im good, i dont want to watch players that i could beat myself, i like to watch the best players in the world which is the nba, officiating goes both way..people just like to blame it on that when there team doesnt win..plin and simple

Where all did you get basketball scholarships to?

i quit basketball senior year of hschool because i had more offers in baseball in which i did play untill i blew out my shoulder