Binders

PadresFan86 · Oct 14, 2012

Can it be damaging to the cards in a binder if I stand the binder up on a shelf as opposed to laying it flat? I have always laid my binders flat but I don't have much space now that I live in an apartment one third of the size my last house was.

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BunchOBull · Oct 14, 2012

Long answer short, yes. The sagging due to gravity will put strain on the bottom right card.

alwayson22 · Oct 14, 2012

Certain binders are built to stand vertically while providing better support for the cards. There will still be some sagging of the pages, but it will take years to develop.

Mario1975 · Oct 14, 2012

I can speak from experience DO NOT STAND UP THE BINDERS! I made that mistake years ago and all the cards on the bottom and towards the right were bowed. Thank God after laying the binders flat for almost a year they are almost flat again.

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Austin · Oct 14, 2012

I've had complete sets in binders standing up on bookshelves since the mid '80s and have never had a problem.

I have every Topps, Fleer, Donruss, Upper Deck and Score set from 1980-1994 in binders, and several more modern sets.
Even my valuable 1958 Topps set is is in a binder standing up.

Not once have cards been damaged.
The pages don't bow if the binder is full with page lifters, and they're together tighly on shelves like books with bookends.
I look at my sets all of the time and have never seen any of the problems some of you claim.

And I use the cheap Walmart budget 3-ring binders too.
Never had a problem.

Mario1975 · Oct 14, 2012

I used ultra pro binders and pages and can tell you for a fact it happened to me. If you want to take a chance go ahead but to me it's not worth the risk.

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MansGame · Oct 14, 2012

I stand mine up but have asked the same question for years. I don't seem to have any issues.

uniquebaseballcards · Oct 14, 2012

I've binders with slip covers and page lifters, these both help keep things straight.

MansGame · Oct 14, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
I've binders with slip covers and page lifters, these both help keep things straight.

Page lifters?

hofmichael · Oct 14, 2012

Univenture.com binders help solve this the sagging problem.

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uniquebaseballcards · Oct 14, 2012

MansGame said:
Page lifters?

Yes, they're great for moving sheets back and forth and offer support at the same time:

Austin · Oct 14, 2012

Page lifters (also called sheet lifters) are imperative for when your binder is not full of pages because they keep the pages centered and tight, so they don't bend and damage your cards.
If you use them, keeping binders upright like they're intended wlll keep your cards safe.

wolfmanalfredo · Oct 14, 2012

Had sets and pc's in binders for years. don't seem to have issues. always stood them up, damage only happened when they were layed down

PadresFan86 · Oct 15, 2012

Thanks for the input guys.

rum151man · Oct 15, 2012

MansGame said:
Page lifters?

Yeah it's like a bra for your cards

sruchris · Oct 15, 2012

All of my 300+ sets are in binders, standing up. Most are in cheap Wal-Mart/Target binders while some are in Univenture Case View binders. I haven't noticed any bowing or damage to the bottom row of cards, yet. When binding a set, I make sure to choose an appropriately-sized binder for the set, i.e. if the pages are 1.5 inches tall, choose a 1.5in binder. This varies by the thickness of the cards, not the total number of pages. I usually error on the side of slightly overstuffing a binder than leaving empty space as I like the idea of keeping everything snug. I don't use page lifters or separators, although they will protect the first and last pages from getting dented from the clasps. I also minimize the space in between binders on my shelf. Again, tighter is better, in my opinion. Loose and sloppy is never good.

TGutta · Oct 15, 2012

wolfmanalfredo said:
Had sets and pc's in binders for years. don't seem to have issues. always stood them up, damage only happened when they were layed down

What kind of damage happened when they were down? I only ask because I used to stand them up but then decided to put them down for space reasons.

sruchris · Oct 17, 2012

I wonder what type of binders Romney uses. Do you think he stores them vertically?

BowmanChromeAddict · Oct 17, 2012

sruchris said:
I wonder what type of binders Romney uses. Do you think he stores them vertically?

I saw this thread and that's all I thought about. You'd have to think there were plenty of page lifters because binders full of women would get pretty heavy. Wouldn't want to be the woman in the bottom right hand corner...

rsmath · Oct 17, 2012

TGutta said:
What kind of damage happened when they were down? I only ask because I used to stand them up but then decided to put them down for space reasons.

judging from past experience with a jersey relic being in a penny sleeve and top loader that was laying under something heavy (so not a card in a binder), I can only assume the issue is that you store your binder flat, time goes by and you find that the weight of the pages has pressed the page against the card surface hard enough over time that when you try to remove a card from its pocket, some of the card surface has stuck to the binder page material.

I store mine upright in univenture binders because of the fear I have of them being stored flat. Being upright, you don't have the pressure of the page material being pressed against the card's surface.

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