POLL: What are YOUR feelings on Graded Cards.

I'd like to know how the FCB Members feel about Graded Cards...BGS/BVG, PSA and SGC

I don't look for graded cards and I don't need my cards graded.

When I hear things like it took me 5 times but I got that sub bumped and got the 9.5...that is just BS.

If I grade cards down the road it will be with PSA.

I have 2 feelings.

1. There good for me cause im very picky when it comes to buying high end cards such as rookies for Bowman chrome. Id have to buy one graded. For example, when i put together a Longoria Rainbow ill buy em all graded.

2. There the ONLY way to go when buying high end cards off ebay. Unless you collect 1 player like me (McGwire) some cards you dont care the condition but when buying to invest in rookie cards, You'll always know what your getting if your buying a graded card. For me 9's and higher only. and the auto Must be a 10 of course.

Btw, i use psa/dna all the time for my IP mcgwires.

Adamsince1981 said:

I don't look for graded cards and I don't need my cards graded.

When I hear things like it took me 5 times but I got that sub bumped and got the 9.5...that is just BS.

If I grade cards down the road it will be with PSA.

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Says the man with a BGS slab as a sig LOL

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

I don't look for graded cards and I don't need my cards graded.

When I hear things like it took me 5 times but I got that sub bumped and got the 9.5...that is just BS.

If I grade cards down the road it will be with PSA.

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Says the man with a BGS slab as a sig LOL

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Right...I didn't say I didn't own some, it just isn't important to me.

That was my only grading submission and the only reason I did it was because they were in KC at a Tri-Star show.

Adamsince1981 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

I don't look for graded cards and I don't need my cards graded.

When I hear things like it took me 5 times but I got that sub bumped and got the 9.5...that is just BS.

If I grade cards down the road it will be with PSA.

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Says the man with a BGS slab as a sig LOL

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Right...I didn't say I didn't own some, it just isn't important to me.

That was my only grading submission and the only reason I did it was because they were in KC at a Tri-Star show.

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Ahh gothca. Just an FYI, PSA will "re-evalute" for a customer as well.

Having dealt with buying a lot of each, id give BGS the advantage over PSA not only in strictness of grading, but more importantly, quality of holder

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

I don't look for graded cards and I don't need my cards graded.

When I hear things like it took me 5 times but I got that sub bumped and got the 9.5...that is just BS.

If I grade cards down the road it will be with PSA.

Click to expand...

Says the man with a BGS slab as a sig LOL

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Right...I didn't say I didn't own some, it just isn't important to me.

That was my only grading submission and the only reason I did it was because they were in KC at a Tri-Star show.

Click to expand...

Ahh gothca. Just an FYI, PSA will "re-evalute" for a customer as well.

Having dealt with buying a lot of each, id give BGS the advantage over PSA not only in strictness of grading, but more importantly, quality of holder

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There is no doubt when it comes to the quality of the holder...that is why I really don't mind finding a cool card that is BGS slabbed.

Does it bother you to know that you could be buying a BGS 9.5 that could have been slabbed a 9 or pre-graded a 9 and re-submitted a few times until someone gave in, did a favor, or felt differently???

I think the standards of some of the companies (esp. BGS) has gone south.
But, grading is almost a must when selling/buying rookie cards over the internet. There are just too many unscrupulous sellers to trust their judgment on condition.

Adamsince1981 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

I don't look for graded cards and I don't need my cards graded.

When I hear things like it took me 5 times but I got that sub bumped and got the 9.5...that is just BS.

If I grade cards down the road it will be with PSA.

Click to expand...

Says the man with a BGS slab as a sig LOL

Click to expand...

Right...I didn't say I didn't own some, it just isn't important to me.

That was my only grading submission and the only reason I did it was because they were in KC at a Tri-Star show.

Click to expand...

Ahh gothca. Just an FYI, PSA will "re-evalute" for a customer as well.

Having dealt with buying a lot of each, id give BGS the advantage over PSA not only in strictness of grading, but more importantly, quality of holder

Click to expand...

There is no doubt when it comes to the quality of the holder...that is why I really don't mind finding a cool card that is BGS slabbed.

Does it bother you to know that you could be buying a BGS 9.5 that could have been slabbed a 9 or pre-graded a 9 and re-submitted a few times until someone gave in, did a favor, or felt differently???

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Does that borther me? probably a little but the process is subject to human error.

But as an internet buyer 99+% of the time (i attend about one show a year), i like to know what i am sending
someone my money for. Long ago, i got fed up with internet stupid eBay sellers that cant handle BASIC html, and rely on eBays pathetic photo hosting pics that enable those sellers to call all of their cards "Mint", only having to return many over-self graded cards.

For me, grading is a waste of money. I don't have anything impressive that would have an increased value due to grading, so I'd rather put my money towards more cards. Yes, the protection is nice, but I'm not interested in spending that much to protect them.

to elaborate on the importance of know what you are buying before you buy it, here is a "typical" raw buy for me in the spring of 2005....



i won it for less than $5. i wanted THE card, not the $5.
$5 is easy to replace, the cards, not so much.

How many times can you hear "well, just return it, and i will refund your money (minus the return S&H)"
before it gets really bothersome?

ThoseBackPages said:

to elaborate on the importance of know what you are buying before you buy it, here is a "typical" raw buy for me in the spring of 2005....



i won it for less than $5. i wanted THE card, not the $5.
$5 is easy to replace, the cards, not so much.

How many times can you hear "well, just return it, and i will refund your money (minus the return S&H)"
before it gets really bothersome?

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EDIT: This is MY scan, certainly nothing close to what the seller had posted

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

Adamsince1981 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

[quote="Adamsince1981":syp7ns44]I don't look for graded cards and I don't need my cards graded.

When I hear things like it took me 5 times but I got that sub bumped and got the 9.5...that is just BS.

If I grade cards down the road it will be with PSA.

Click to expand...

Says the man with a BGS slab as a sig LOL

Click to expand...

Right...I didn't say I didn't own some, it just isn't important to me.

That was my only grading submission and the only reason I did it was because they were in KC at a Tri-Star show.

Click to expand...

Ahh gothca. Just an FYI, PSA will "re-evalute" for a customer as well.

Having dealt with buying a lot of each, id give BGS the advantage over PSA not only in strictness of grading, but more importantly, quality of holder

Click to expand...

There is no doubt when it comes to the quality of the holder...that is why I really don't mind finding a cool card that is BGS slabbed.

Does it bother you to know that you could be buying a BGS 9.5 that could have been slabbed a 9 or pre-graded a 9 and re-submitted a few times until someone gave in, did a favor, or felt differently???

Click to expand...

Does that borther me? probably a little but the process is subject to human error.

But as an internet buyer 99+% of the time (i attend about one show a year), i like to know what i am sending
someone my money for. Long ago, i got fed up with internet stupid eBay sellers that cant handle BASIC html, and rely on eBays pathetic photo hosting pics that enable those sellers to call all of their cards "Mint", only having to return many over-self graded cards.[/quote:syp7ns44]

I don't see how it doesn't bother you and others more...You buy a 9.5 and show it off...when it could be in the same condition or worse than a card slabbed a 9...knowing that, where is the value?

As far as you being a picky internet buyer...a huge portion of the cards that my buddies get graded are un-graded cards that they purchase online.

I had 250 feedback from an ebay account that got hacked and I'm currently at 578 on my real ebay account...I've never had to send a card back and I've never had someone complain about the condition of my cards.

I prefer graded as I collect a lot of vintage, and it would be very risky to do otherwise. Newer issues I am indifferent.

1. A necessity for vintage
2. A value booster for modern rookies if 9+.
3. For autos, gu, and other cards, not necessary.

Graded cards for investment are nice, but I couldn't care less if anything in my own collection is graded...I'd rather just buy more cards instead of sending stuff in or paying a premium to buy a graded card. BGS cases sure are nice though.

I see graded cards as protection, not investment. I prefer to buy a BGS 9 and save money than paying the extra for a BGS 9.5. I would buy a SGC 96 instead of a SGC 98 to save money.

Add the option "I'm not looking for them, but it's always a plus to know what I've got"

ThoseBackPages said:

How many times can you hear "well, just return it, and i will refund your money (minus the return S&H)"
before it gets really bothersome?

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I hate this. I don't sell on ebay so I rarely go to the post office, and I work late so the post office is usually closed when I get out. It's a hassle for me to get to the post office to return a card. I don't see why sellers think that every card in the world is NM-MT even with dinged corners or creases around the GU area.

I like them for vintage and rookies. Also for protection.