What would be your guess?

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 22, 2014

Topps has never issued a Rico Petrocelli autograph card, not in Ginter, Heritage, or Archives. They have made them of numerous players who had far less illustrious careers. This year they featured the '65, which would have been the obvious best time to include him, this was his rookie card. They asked Bill Spanswick and Jay Ritchie and yet another set with Jim Rice. Do you think they've never asked or do you think he has a grudge against them, he signed for Fleer and Upper Deck in the past. Is he in bad shape? Would he not be able to sign if they had inquired for this year's set? Just wondering, I really want a Topps Certified of him to be made.

Hawk8 · Mar 22, 2014

Hopefully he is in this year

Austin · Mar 22, 2014

Petrocelli has always been a great signer through the mail, so if Topps doesn't make a certified card of him, you can always send him an old Topps card to sign.

mchenrycards · Mar 22, 2014

Some older players will not sign for the basic amount Topps offers all these guys to sign for their various sets. Topps usually has a set amount for guys who were not stars and normally will not budge. Billy Loes of the Dodgers is a classic example as he refused to sign for the standard amount and wanted a much larger payday when approached by Topps. I have no ide if this is the case with Rico but it very well could be. When you look at at the amount od other scrub players that have signed I am shocked they didnt get him in the mix already.

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 23, 2014

mchenrycards said:
Some older players will not sign for the basic amount Topps offers all these guys to sign for their various sets. Topps usually has a set amount for guys who were not stars and normally will not budge. Billy Loes of the Dodgers is a classic example as he refused to sign for the standard amount and wanted a much larger payday when approached by Topps. I have no ide if this is the case with Rico but it very well could be. When you look at at the amount od other scrub players that have signed I am shocked they didnt get him in the mix already.

If that is the case they could have offered him double very easily and made Red Sox collectors very happy while increasing the value of their product. They could have given him both the Bill Spanswick and Jay Ritchie pay days. Rico would carry a decent value and hobby attention, heck any scrub who played one year for the Sox and gets a Sox uniform auto sells well, but Rico would sell pretty high I think.

fordman · Mar 23, 2014

RedSoxNationMT said:
If that is the case they could have offered him double very easily and made Red Sox collectors very happy while increasing the value of their product. They could have given him both the Bill Spanswick and Jay Ritchie pay days. Rico would carry a decent value and hobby attention, heck any scrub who played one year for the Sox and gets a Sox uniform auto sells well, but Rico would sell pretty high I think.

It would be a decent sell regionally around the Boston area. Anywhere else in the USA, next to no market for them.

Lets look at Dave Concepcion of the Cincy Reds. He was the best shortstop in the 70's with the Big Red Machine. No one outside of Cincy (or Venezuela) wants his cards, balls, bats or jerseys. At anytime, you can get a decent auto for under $20 on ebay plus he signs at least 10 times a year around town for less than $15 per auto.

Fordman

RedSoxNationMT · Mar 23, 2014

fordman said:
It would be a decent sell regionally around the Boston area. Anywhere else in the USA, next to no market for them.

Lets look at Dave Concepcion of the Cincy Reds. He was the best shortstop in the 70's with the Big Red Machine. No one outside of Cincy (or Venezuela) wants his cards, balls, bats or jerseys. At anytime, you can get a decent auto for under $20 on ebay plus he signs at least 10 times a year around town for less than $15 per auto.

Fordman

Poor comparison. Reds vs. Red Sox is a huge difference in fan base. A guy who signs all the time vs. a guy who doesn't, you get that availability determines price right? Supply and demand? You explained why Concepcion is now a "worthless" auto. He signs all the time, there's already too much of his stuff out there and he's signing more all the time, but this doesn't have anything to do with the price of a guys first and only Topps Certified Autograph. Rico Petrocelli Heritage Red's /65 would bring at least $75. Concepcion can sign 25,000 items a year but if he's never had a Topps Auto and he had a Heritage Red debut, that card is going to bring attention, not as much as if he had played for Boston, but still. Good ebay sales help drive nationwide product sales. Yeah a Rico might not sell hot on the shelf of a Kansas City card store, but card shops aren't the heart of the hobby these days.

allstars · Mar 23, 2014

RedSoxNationMT said:
Poor comparison. Reds vs. Red Sox is a huge difference in fan base. A guy who signs all the time vs. a guy who doesn't, you get that availability determines price right? Supply and demand? You explained why Concepcion is now a "worthless" auto. He signs all the time, there's already too much of his stuff out there and he's signing more all the time, but this doesn't have anything to do with the price of a guys first and only Topps Certified Autograph. Rico Petrocelli Heritage Red's /65 would bring at least $75. Concepcion can sign 25,000 items a year but if he's never had a Topps Auto and he had a Heritage Red debut, that card is going to bring attention, not as much as if he had played for Boston, but still. Good ebay sales help drive nationwide product sales. Yeah a Rico might not sell hot on the shelf of a Kansas City card store, but card shops aren't the heart of the hobby these days.

No way Rico sells for any more than Jim Rice. Which is essentially nothing.

fordman · Mar 23, 2014

RedSoxNationMT said:
Poor comparison. Reds vs. Red Sox is a huge difference in fan base. A guy who signs all the time vs. a guy who doesn't, you get that availability determines price right? Supply and demand? You explained why Concepcion is now a "worthless" auto. He signs all the time, there's already too much of his stuff out there and he's signing more all the time, but this doesn't have anything to do with the price of a guys first and only Topps Certified Autograph. Rico Petrocelli Heritage Red's /65 would bring at least $75. Concepcion can sign 25,000 items a year but if he's never had a Topps Auto and he had a Heritage Red debut, that card is going to bring attention, not as much as if he had played for Boston, but still. Good ebay sales help drive nationwide product sales. Yeah a Rico might not sell hot on the shelf of a Kansas City card store, but card shops aren't the heart of the hobby these days.

Poor comparison? What? They both have a very loyal following but not nationally, only regionally. Concepcion does have a 2014 Topps Heritage autographed card, selling for less than $20. Outside of Cincy, the only ones that want that card are the ones putting sets together. Put Jim Rice & Rico Petrocelli at a signers table at a card show, guarantee, Jim Rice gets way more signatures. The Redsox needs to bring him in for their Redsox-fest type show, pay him well and give his autograph away to fans.

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