Accuracy of PSA/DNA "Authenticated" Autos?

bigunitcards · Jul 6, 2014

I have 50+ Randy Johnson autos from 1997 to present and each and everyone of them no more than a standard deviation off if this handwriting style:

So when I see an encased auto CERTIFIED by PSA like this one i squint my eyes and have a befuddled look on my face.

I am no handwriting expert, but I see absolutely no similarities. Anyone else question these type of autos?

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JustinG08 · Jul 6, 2014

Randy has two very different autographs, the one on the bottom is what you normally will get as a free IP auto. For paid signings he gives his nice full auto like the one above.

Here are a few recent IP autographs from another site showing how different they can be compared to his paid auto.

Lars · Jul 6, 2014

PSA/DNA can be hit or miss at best, but they are the industry standard if you want to sell something signed.

At some point of his career, Johnson had a paid sit down version of his autograph and a version he gave out when he was randomly signing autographs for fans.

MansGame · Jul 6, 2014

Very interesting.

michaelstepper · Jul 6, 2014

Well said MansGame.. I've wondered about this as well with vintage slabbed autos. But psa/DNA is the standard.
Glad I have a "money" auto

MansGame · Jul 6, 2014

Haha - it's is though. I mean it's pretty genius of him to have two different autos and to do that his entire career.

That all said, who really knows what's real and what's fake? I always think back to the member here who collected IP autos at baseball games and sent all like 200 into PSA and we all took bets on how many come back as NOT being authentic, even though every one of them was signed in person lol. It was like 12 or something. Just goes to tell you.

michaelstepper · Jul 6, 2014

Wow that's crazy. Haven't heard that one. Guess if a player changes it up without anyone knowing I could see the problem

MrMet · Jul 6, 2014

MansGame said:
Haha - it's is though. I mean it's pretty genius of him to have two different autos and to do that his entire career.

That all said, who really knows what's real and what's fake? I always think back to the member here who collected IP autos at baseball games and sent all like 200 into PSA and we all took bets on how many come back as NOT being authentic, even though every one of them was signed in person lol. It was like 12 or something. Just goes to tell you.

I always wondered that! I have hundreds of autos I've gotten IP, and I've always wondered what would happen if I sent them in to get authenticated. Interesting that someone else here did that.

mrmopar · Jul 6, 2014

They are just guys who think they know better than most. Some, perhaps all, have some level of formal training on handwriting, but maybe not. We have probably all seen the videos and heard the stories where they were wrong or fooled and that is not surprising. I see threads on different sites all the time where people ask for opinions and there are always an endless supply of "experts" on the subject who have no doubt whatsoever in their opinions.

I like to think I have a pretty good eye, having bought cards for many years, but I am no expert by any means. So few of my autographs were in person, so I guess i really have nothing to go by other than a feeling and comparison to similar "certified" items. I try to buy where the risk seems low, with known sellers, sometimes listings that appear genuine (you can usually tell between the guy who found a handful of autographs from when he was a kid and the guy who seems to have endless Jordan, Jeter and Montana autographs for super cheap!

IndyManning18 · Jul 6, 2014

I've seen some slabbed Peyton Manning's that are laughable. When looking for an autograph, do your homeowrk and buy one you bellieve to be authentic and not base it on a random guy's OPINION.

BunchOBull · Jul 6, 2014

Neither of the big two are infallible. It's an opinion if they weren't there to witness the signing.

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