So this is what a Vintage PSA 2 looks like?!

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 20, 2009

I've had quite a few modern slabbed cards.... but I finally got my first vintage job and I am so pleased.
I can't believe how nice a PSA 2 can actually be. For a 58 year old piece of cardboard, it's a Gem to me!
I know we'd all prefer a higer grade, but I forced a total of $9.99 out of my nonexistent budget for this puppy!

jay1065 · Jul 20, 2009

First off, great pickup! The '51 Bowman set is a favorite of mine.

It's amazing what will bring down the technical grade of a vintage card. Paper loss, along with back staining, seem to be a killer for both SGC and PSA. This card of mine resides in a PSA 1 holder (notice the small spots of paper loss on the back - top and bottom left):

My T206 Kleinow also sits in a PSA 1 slab:

I understand the grade for the T206, yet when you place the two side-by-side, the grades make no sense (imo.)

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 20, 2009

jay1065 said:
First off, great pickup! The '51 Bowman set is a favorite of mine.

It's amazing what will bring down the technical grade of a vintage card. Paper loss, along with back staining, seem to be a killer for both SGC and PSA. This card of mine resides in a PSA 1 holder (notice the small spots of paper loss on the back - top and bottom left):

My T206 Kleinow also sits in a PSA 1 slab:

I understand the grade for the T206, yet when you place the two side-by-side, the grades make no sense (imo.)

I think we can both live with the grades for such nice cards. I hope to find more Big Klu PSA 2's in the future.

By the way, thanks for trumping my "vintage" with your antiques! Show off! :lol: :lol:

and another

just to be sure you know I'm kidding.

Nate Colbert 17 · Jul 20, 2009

There are 1's and then there are "1's"...

A lot of the lower grade cards can still have great visual appeal. A mark (or stamp) on the back or a tiny bit of paper loss can kill a cards grade.

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 20, 2009

Scottopotamus said:
There are 1's and then there are "1's"...
A lot of the lower grade cards can still have great visual appeal. A mark (or stamp) on the back or a tiny bit of paper loss can kill a cards grade.

I could handle a PSA1 T206 Wagner. Heck...even just one labled "authentic".

It'd still be pretty.

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 20, 2009

I'm going to assume that both of you deal with a lot of vintage grading?

Judging by only what you can see from the front..... what do you think, PSA1?

jay1065 · Jul 20, 2009

Maybe another 2?

MattinglyAlexander said:
I hope to find more Big Klu PSA 2's in the future.

Are you starting a player collection?

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 20, 2009

jay1065 said:
Maybe another 2?

MattinglyAlexander said:

I hope to find more Big Klu PSA 2's in the future.

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Are you starting a player collection?

I've been trying to for a while. He was my father's favorite player. ONLY with the Reds though. He said he no longer cared for the Reds after Big Klu was gone... that is until Rose, Bench, Morgan, Foster....and the BRM. :lol:

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 21, 2009

No opinion on the possible grade of the Leaf RC?

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 21, 2009

jay1065 said:
Maybe another 2?

MattinglyAlexander said:

I hope to find more Big Klu PSA 2's in the future.

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Are you starting a player collection?

Oh, I didn't even notice you answered before.
Compared to the PSA2 '51 Bowman...it couldn't be another 2... but as you've said... some many things to look at.

I see it and think, "Dang... that card is 60 or 61 years old.... it sure looks good for it's age."

But the corners.... I think someone loved that card and tried to take care of it, but loved to show it off.

UMich92 · Jul 28, 2009

Some nice looking 1's and 2's. A visually appealing front is much more important to me that paper loss on the back. Didn't realize that knocked the grade down so much. Thanks for the info.

Alex

rc4157 · Jul 28, 2009

I've probably shared this before, but I thought Mighty Allexander would like to see it being he is a Kluzewski fan. My wife's grandfather ran a bar in Dayton, OH and Klu used to come in occasionally. He came back and signed the picture, not a great autograph but at least you can still see it.

RC

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 29, 2009

rc4157 said:
I've probably shared this before, but I thought Mighty Allexander would like to see it being he is a Kluzewski fan. My wife's grandfather ran a bar in Dayton, OH and Klu used to come in occasionally. He came back and signed the picture, not a great autograph but at least you can still see it.

RC

That is pretty cool. But why the "mighty" Alexander?

rc4157 · Jul 29, 2009

Sorry, but in my haste I substituted "Mighty" for "Mattingly".

RC

MattinglyAlexander · Jul 29, 2009

rc4157 said:
Sorry, but in my haste I substituted "Mighty" for "Mattingly".

RC

I just hear that a lot when talking politics.

Usually when someone is calling me a know it all. :lol:

By the way, your collection is mighty!

MattinglyAlexander · Aug 12, 2009

I just snagged my first foosball vintage. I'm hoping the auto is Genuine. Can one of you vintage folks inform me as to the cost of vintage grading by PSA plus authentication.... or either/or.

$17 Shipped. Worth the chance on the auto? I think so. Sure looks like a nice copy of the card though..even being off center.

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birdsfan85 · Aug 12, 2009

MattinglyAlexander said:
I just snagged my first foosball vintage. I'm hoping the auto is Genuine. Can one of you vintage folks inform me as to the cost of vintage grading by PSA plus authentication.... or either/or.

$17 Shipped. Worth the chance on the auto? I think so. Sure looks like a nice copy of the card though..even being off center.

The auto is defintely real I got Parilli ttm this year. Nice card but if you would've got it ttm yourself you could've saved a few dollars.

MattinglyAlexander · Aug 12, 2009

birdsfan85 said:
MattinglyAlexander said:

I just snagged my first foosball vintage. I'm hoping the auto is Genuine. Can one of you vintage folks inform me as to the cost of vintage grading by PSA plus authentication.... or either/or.

$17 Shipped. Worth the chance on the auto? I think so. Sure looks like a nice copy of the card though..even being off center.

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The auto is defintely real I got Parilli ttm this year. Nice card but if you would've got it ttm yourself you could've saved a few dollars.

Yeah, but I didn't own a 1959 Topps and it saved me the work. I passed up a certified auto because it wasn't a beauty vintage like this one. So he's good TTM? Cool.

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