Good Deal?

crosby87 · Jun 25, 2010

Today at a flea market me and my dad picked up 3 autographed pictures in frames.
Ted Williams
Stan Musial
Sandy Koufax
All are signed in blue sharpie, and all have COA.

Was 105 dollars a good deal for the 3 pictures?

BunchOBull · Jun 25, 2010

COAs mean nothing I'm afraid. If they're real, great deal...but at that price I have a hard time believing it.

Post pics if you can.

crosby87 · Jun 25, 2010

I will try to get scans up.
Is there anything to look for to see if it is possibly fake?

1995BBRefractorGuy · Jun 25, 2010

my guess is either fakes or autopenned

BunchOBull · Jun 25, 2010

All three of those fellows have fakes that are pretty darn close, especially Williams...it will honestly just take looking at them.

donrusscrusademan · Jun 25, 2010

whos the coa from?

crosby87 · Jun 25, 2010

I will get scans of them, and the COA sometime soon. I have to take them out of the frames, and get my scanner ready which takes a while. Can someone show me a picture of a real and fake one of the williams or musial?

nyc3 · Jun 25, 2010

The point of a fake is to look real so to try to compare it with an untrained eye is about as pointless as random COA's. I mean yes there are different degrees of fakes but more than likely it will look like the real thing as thats the point.

crosby87 · Jun 25, 2010

ALSO there is stickers on the photos with numbers? Could that help?

nyc3 · Jun 25, 2010

donrusscrusademan said:
whos the coa from?

gt2590 · Jun 25, 2010

crosby87 said:
ALSO there is stickers on the photos with numbers? Could that help?

It could. UDA started that, others ran with it, UD yelled at them, they stopped for authenticity with their company logo or prefix. If it's a MLB logo, that number just authenticates the photo. A smaller, ball-shaped hologram is MLB's authentication, but I'm pretty sure they started after Williams passed.

Also, some players, including Williams, had their own hologram, which would help.

crosby87 · Jun 26, 2010

Ok a little update.
Im going to scan all these photos in the next few hours.
Should I do scans of the COA as well?
The williams is from a company called Stat Authentic.
Musial is his own company, and comes with a ticket to the event of signing and the COA
Koufax is Coa from a company called prosignedsports.

sdsportsfan1214 · Jun 26, 2010

crosby87 said:
Ok a little update.
Im going to scan all these photos in the next few hours.
Should I do scans of the COA as well?
The williams is from a company called Stat Authentic.
Musial is his own company, and comes with a ticket to the event of signing and the COA
Koufax is Coa from a company called prosignedsports.

:?

hofmichael · Jun 26, 2010

crosby87 said:
Ok a little update.
Im going to scan all these photos in the next few hours.
Should I do scans of the COA as well?
The williams is from a company called Stat Authentic.
Musial is his own company, and comes with a ticket to the event of signing and the COA
Koufax is Coa from a company called prosignedsports.

I can tell you the Williams is fake without seeing it.Morales is one of the biggest scumbags in the industry.
Mike

crosby87 · Jun 26, 2010

hofmichael said:
crosby87 said:

Ok a little update.
Im going to scan all these photos in the next few hours.
Should I do scans of the COA as well?
The williams is from a company called Stat Authentic.
Musial is his own company, and comes with a ticket to the event of signing and the COA
Koufax is Coa from a company called prosignedsports.

Click to expand...

I can tell you the Williams is fake without seeing it.Morales is one of the biggest scumbags in the industry.
Mike

I did some research on that, and I guess it is likely a fake.
Is it possible that someone obtained the auto, then got it authenticated by this guy?
I couldn't find much but this is what I dug up.
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Sports ... /520071732

and this item they somehow actually determined real... ::facepalm::
http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/189/ty-cobb-a ... eball.aspx

matfanofold · Jun 26, 2010

Do yourself a favor and get them authenticated by a reputable source.

crosby87 · Jun 26, 2010

Here are the scans. Hopefully I can get some help/answers.

sdsportsfan1214 · Jun 26, 2010

The Musial looks real but i dont think the Koufax and Williams are legit

011873 · Jun 26, 2010

Regarding the Musial, unless theres a sticker or number connecting the COA to the photo, it means nothing.

In other words, if the COA is number 4567 and theres a matching 4567 on the photo, thats legit.

But if its just a COA, even from Stan's company, and you cant actually link it to the photo, it means nothing.

gt2590 · Jun 26, 2010

I think the Musial is good for sure, but I'm doubting on the Williams and I've never heard of PSS.

But it would be worth it to give PSA or Spense a shot at them. Plus, do it in person at a big show and save some hassle. Good luck!

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