Colvin hits 15th HR. Leads NL Rookies.

Does he have a shot at NL ROY?



Watching the Cubs somehow out play the Cardinals.

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If he gets at-bats, sure. I can't figure out why he wasn't getting more ABs this year, he's had great numbers for a while. I'd never predict Strasburg to carry on with his 12:2 K/BB.

Anything can happen, there's a whollotta baseball left. With that said, the Cubs can compete with anyone if they sacrifice enough to the Gods. Piniella's retirement announcement bought them at least 3 or 4 wins.

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I still can't believe I passed up his super for 2 bills. I was literally right on the trigger to do it.

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Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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i dont believe you have to be in the bigs from ST. But believe that a callup before say May 1st should be part of it.

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Vagrant said:

I still can't believe I passed up his super for 2 bills. I was literally right on the trigger to do it.

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Im right there with you ::facepalm::

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gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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I don't think you need to. Some rookies make more of an impact over 4 months than some who play the whole season.

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id be shocked if he wins ROY

id be shocked if Cashburg doesnt win ROY

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gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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gonzagacubs said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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ok so if braves and giants both make the playoffs (IF), and there lines are like

[Stats projected by ESPN]
Heyward: OF .261 20HR 81RBI 11SB .822OPS (Full year)
Posey: C .353 19HR 75RBI .945 OPS (Not full year)

You'd give it to heyward? And i understand we all have different opinions

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darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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ok so if braves and giants both make the playoffs (IF), and there lines are like

[Stats projected by ESPN]
Heyward: OF .261 20HR 81RBI 11SB .822OPS (Full year)
Posey: C .353 19HR 75RBI .945 OPS (Not full year)

You'd give it to heyward? And i understand we all have different opinions

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Yep.

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gonzagacubs said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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ok so if braves and giants both make the playoffs (IF), and there lines are like

[Stats projected by ESPN]
Heyward: OF .261 20HR 81RBI 11SB .822OPS (Full year)
Posey: C .353 19HR 75RBI .945 OPS (Not full year)

You'd give it to heyward? And i understand we all have different opinions

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Yep.

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wow ok i guess we should all buy leake and heyward cards since they're the only one that has a chance to win roy then

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darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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ok so if braves and giants both make the playoffs (IF), and there lines are like

[Stats projected by ESPN]
Heyward: OF .261 20HR 81RBI 11SB .822OPS (Full year)
Posey: C .353 19HR 75RBI .945 OPS (Not full year)

You'd give it to heyward? And i understand we all have different opinions

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Haha, ESPN is crap if that's their projection. Posey has like a 1/20 shot of hitting .353 the rest of the year.

Enter Fangraphs and ZiPS:

.317, 13HR, 52R, 56RBI, 1SB -- Posey (.317/.367/.497)
.264, 17HR, 77R, 73RBI 9SB -- Heyward (.264/.361/.446)

Now that's what I call a somewhat useful projection.

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pigskincardboard said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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ok so if braves and giants both make the playoffs (IF), and there lines are like

[Stats projected by ESPN]
Heyward: OF .261 20HR 81RBI 11SB .822OPS (Full year)
Posey: C .353 19HR 75RBI .945 OPS (Not full year)

You'd give it to heyward? And i understand we all have different opinions

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Haha, ESPN is crap if that's their projection. Posey has like a 1/20 shot of hitting .353 the rest of the year.

Enter Fangraphs and ZiPS:

.317, 13HR, 52R, 56RBI, 1SB -- Posey (.317/.367/.497)
.264, 17HR, 77R, 73RBI 9SB -- Heyward (.264/.361/.446)

Now that's what I call a somewhat useful projection.

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I'd still give it posey because of the higher ops and average (and catcher) but barely. Who knows, heyward might go on one of his tears again.

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darocker80 said:

pigskincardboard said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

darocker80 said:

[quote="gonzagacubs":2tq4io38]Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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ok so if braves and giants both make the playoffs (IF), and there lines are like

[Stats projected by ESPN]
Heyward: OF .261 20HR 81RBI 11SB .822OPS (Full year)
Posey: C .353 19HR 75RBI .945 OPS (Not full year)

You'd give it to heyward? And i understand we all have different opinions

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Haha, ESPN is crap if that's their projection. Posey has like a 1/20 shot of hitting .353 the rest of the year.

Enter Fangraphs and ZiPS:

.317, 13HR, 52R, 56RBI, 1SB -- Posey (.317/.367/.497)
.264, 17HR, 77R, 73RBI 9SB -- Heyward (.264/.361/.446)

Now that's what I call a somewhat useful projection.

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I'd still give it posey because of the higher ops and average (and catcher) but barely. Who knows, heyward might go on one of his tears again.[/quote:2tq4io38]

Posey isn't going to win the ROY.

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ALL_THE_HYPE said:

darocker80 said:

pigskincardboard said:

darocker80 said:

gonzagacubs said:

[quote="darocker80":2pqf3n74][quote="gonzagacubs":2pqf3n74]Honestly, he should be the front runner, but he isn't and will not win ROY. He doesn't have the name recognition the others have.

It is my opinion that in order to win ROY, you should make the big club right out of spring training and play the entire year in the bigs.

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So if mike leake went 11-5 with a 3.50 ERA and strasburg went 14-4 2.50ERA and 180ish strike outs you think leake should be the ROY over strasburg?

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If the Reds made the playoffs, absolutely. Strasburg will never reach those numbers this year, as he will soon hit his innings pitched mark that the Nationals have set for him. Again, this was just my opinion.

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ok so if braves and giants both make the playoffs (IF), and there lines are like

[Stats projected by ESPN]
Heyward: OF .261 20HR 81RBI 11SB .822OPS (Full year)
Posey: C .353 19HR 75RBI .945 OPS (Not full year)

You'd give it to heyward? And i understand we all have different opinions

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Haha, ESPN is crap if that's their projection. Posey has like a 1/20 shot of hitting .353 the rest of the year.

Enter Fangraphs and ZiPS:

.317, 13HR, 52R, 56RBI, 1SB -- Posey (.317/.367/.497)
.264, 17HR, 77R, 73RBI 9SB -- Heyward (.264/.361/.446)

Now that's what I call a somewhat useful projection.

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I'd still give it posey because of the higher ops and average (and catcher) but barely. Who knows, heyward might go on one of his tears again.[/quote:2pqf3n74]

Posey isn't going to win the ROY.[/quote:2pqf3n74]
we'll see.

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ThoseBackPages said:

id be shocked if he wins ROY

id be shocked if Cashburg doesnt win ROY

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Strasburg's arm would have to fall off to not win the ROY ...I seriously doubt Posey can keep up his current pace through the end of the season. What a great year for rookies though...some great up and coming talent that has been promoted...the most talent of any year I can remember.

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MichaelStanton2010 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

id be shocked if he wins ROY

id be shocked if Cashburg doesnt win ROY

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Strasburg's arm would have to fall off to not win the ROY ...I seriously doubt Posey can keep up his current pace through the end of the season. What a great year for rookies though...some great up and coming talent that has been promoted...the most talent of any year I can remember.

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agreed. Its nice to see the NL with some powerhouse rookies

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MichaelStanton2010 said:

ThoseBackPages said:

id be shocked if he wins ROY

id be shocked if Cashburg doesnt win ROY

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Strasburg's arm would have to fall off to not win the ROY ...I seriously doubt Posey can keep up his current pace through the end of the season. What a great year for rookies though...some great up and coming talent that has been promoted...the most talent of any year I can remember.

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Strasburg's arm IS going to fall off. Done so by the club. The club has already said they're shutting him down at 160 innings, so he will not finish the season.

Surprised nobody mentioned the rookie with the most Total Bases in baseball yet. (AND BY A LANDSLIDE)















Batting ? Player? TEAM? POS? G? AB? R? H? TB? 2B? 3B? HR? RBI? BB? SO? SB? CS? OBP? SLG? AVG?
459991 Sanchez, Gaby FLA 1B 91 342 46 104 164 23 2 11 44 33 58 4 0 .368 .480 .304
453269 Boesch, Brennan DET OF 72 272 35 86 147 19 3 12 50 24 51 2 0 .375 .540 .316
457706 Jackson, Austin DET OF 85 344 55 106 142 23 5 1 21 25 96 16 3 .360 .413 .308
477195 Davis, Ike NYM 1B 84 311 47 78 138 18 0 14 46 34 85 1 0 .326 .444 .251
518792 Heyward, Jason ATL OF 79 286 48 76 130 15 3 11 48 45 74 6 5 .376 .455 .266
435622 Desmond, Ian WSH SS 91 295 34 74 113 15 3 6 39 15 62 8 3 .292 .383 .251
502125 Colvin, Tyler CHC OF 88 213 37 56 112 12 1 14 35 16 62 2 0 .318 .526 .263
444876 Escobar, Alcides MIL SS 89 314 38 79 106 9 6 2 27 24 40 8 4 .305 .338 .252
516770 Castro, Starlin CHC SS 66 230 24 69 98 15 4 2 28 20 36 4 2 .352 .426 .300
475253 Smoak, Justin SEA 1B 81 278 32 57 98 11 0 10 38 39 76 1 0 .301 .353 .205
501896 Freese, David STL 3B 70 240 28 71 97 12 1 4 36 21 59 1 1 .361 .404 .296
457763 Posey, Buster SF C 46 170 27 60 95 7 2 8 31 9 21 0 1 .386 .559 .353
458582 Brignac, Reid TB SS 71 206 26 58 86 11 1 5 32 15 52 2 2 .339 .417 .282
435522 Walker, Neil PIT 2B 44 175 24 55 81 15 1 3 21 11 35 2 2 .353 .463 .314
453228 Donald, Jason CLE SS 52 172 18 47 74 15 3 2 18 11 34 2 1 .324 .430 .273
444379 Jaso, John TB C 62 190 28 50 68 7 1 3 33 37 19 3 0 .385 .358 .263
467793 Santana, Carlos CLE C 37 118 22 33 64 13 0 6 20 34 23 2 0 .436 .542 .280
459431 Saunders, Michael SEA OF 54 148 21 34 62 7 0 7 21 17 48 2 2 .309 .419 .230
476883 Alvarez, Pedro PIT 3B 32 116 16 30 57 6 0 7 20 11 42 0 0 .320 .491 .259
519317 Stanton, Mike FLA OF 36 132 19 29 55 6 1 6 23 13 51 3 0 .288 .417 .220
488671 Avila, Alex DET C 55 157 12 33 50 5 0 4 15 18 40 2 0 .295 .318 .210
446373 Manzella, Tommy HOU SS 59 189 13 40 48 5 0 1 16 10 57 0 1 .259 .254 .212
453974 Marson, Lou CLE C 45 141 15 27 37 7 0 1 12 14 36 4 0 .268 .262 .191
452080 Carter, Chris OF 47 80 7 21 32 5 0 2 12 2 9 0 0 .289 .400 .263
502003 Sizemore, Scott DET 2B 31 101 12 20 28 5 0 1 8 13 26 0 0 .287 .277 .198
502143 Valencia, Danny MIN 3B 25 71 4 22 25 3 0 0 4 7 10 1 0 .372 .352 .310
488726 Brantley, Michael CLE OF 24 95 10 16 21 2 0 1 7 8 13 2 1 .231 .221 .168
488771 Castro, Jason HOU C 21 63 11 11 18 1 0 2 4 8 15 0 0 .268 .286 .175
446192 Moore, Adam SEA C 19 57 4 11 17 3 0 1 4 2 19 0 0 .220 .298 .193
458913 Young, Eric COL OF 13 32 7 8 11 1 1 0 3 5 2 4 1 .351 .344 .250
502210 Reddick, Josh BOS OF 11 25 2 4 7 1 1 0 2 1 6 1 0 .192 .280 .160
458679 Bell, Josh BAL 3B 6 19 1 5 5 0 0 0 0 0 8 0 0 .263 .263 .263
464433 Francisco, Juan CIN 3B 3 6 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 4 0 0 .167 .167 .167
451500 Ka'aihue, Kila KC 1B 2 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 .250 .250 .250