Holy Shill Batman!

Card Magnet · Jul 28, 2010

I know shill threads pop up a lot, and sometimes it's only speculation and sometimes incorrect...this is not one of those times. This is shilling, 100%.

[ebay:26jjjeh7]260639444418[/ebay:26jjjeh7]

Member Id: w***j ( 5 ) US $1.04
Jul-27-10 20:48:23 PDT

Member Id: thecardmagnet ( 231Feedback score is 100 to 499) US $0.99
Jul-27-10 00:36:24 PDT

30-Day Summary
Total bids: 212
Items bid on: 91
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 100% Help
Bid retractions: 7
Bid retractions (6 months): 14

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... r_ViewLink

Joshua.Roundtree · Jul 28, 2010

Well Ebay says he's a top rated seller...... ::facepalm::

yankeesfan24 · Jul 28, 2010

atleast make it 99% and not 100 ::facepalm::

that makes it too obvious :lol:

sportscardtheory · Jul 28, 2010

I recently caught krukcards shilling. Almost 4,000 bids buyer, 95% with krukcards. Awful.

Card Magnet · Jul 28, 2010

So I sent the guy a notice letting him know I planned on increasing my bid to ensure that I won, but abandoned after he shilled it, and let him know I filed a report for shilling. I get this reponse ::facepalm:: :lol: .

Thanks for interest in my auctions. I am not familiar with the reports that you have filed? Did you recieve any and all items that you may have won from our store before? If not I would be happy to either send a refund or replacement. Thanks again for your interest.

G $MONEY$ · Jul 28, 2010

Card Magnet said:
Thanks for interest in my auctions. I am not familiar with the reports that you have filed? Did you recieve any and all items that you may have won from our store before? If not I would be happy to either send a refund or replacement. Thanks again for your interest.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

bodiaz · Jul 28, 2010

I am sorry, I do not see the problem here? The guy listed the cards for .99 because of the free listing (saves money). when it appeared the cards would sell for only .99, he wanted to protect his investment. They ar his cards, and if he does not want to sell them for .99, this is really his only option. I do not see the problem? I know everyone will say it is against Ebay policy, but that is only a policy so Ebay can make money. I know I will get flamed here, but I totally see the sellers point of view.

bodiaz · Jul 28, 2010

dbl post

Card Magnet · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz said:
I am sorry, I do not see the problem here? The guy listed the cards for .99 because of the free listing (saves money). when it appeared the cards would sell for only .99, he wanted to protect his investment. They ar his cards, and if he does not want to sell them for .99, this is really his only option. I do not see the problem? I know everyone will say it is against Ebay policy, but that is only a policy so Ebay can make money. I know I will get flamed here, but I totally see the sellers point of view.

Well I know never to bid on an item from you. Thanks for the heads up.

bodiaz · Jul 28, 2010

I have never done it (only 1 eBay id) , just saying I can see why He would.

Fandruw25 · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz said:
I have never done it (only 1 eBay id) , just saying I can see why He would.

I can see why too but that doesn't make it right. If he has a price in mind he has a few options....Start it at a higher opening bid, Set a Reserve or list it as a Buy it now.

leatherman · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz said:
I am sorry, I do not see the problem here? The guy listed the cards for .99 because of the free listing (saves money). when it appeared the cards would sell for only .99, he wanted to protect his investment. They ar his cards, and if he does not want to sell them for .99, this is really his only option. I do not see the problem? I know everyone will say it is against Ebay policy, but that is only a policy so Ebay can make money. I know I will get flamed here, but I totally see the sellers point of view.

If they didn't make money, they wouldn't exist.

You don't see the problem? Someone is using a website to advertise their cards for sale, and that website has been generous enough to let them advertise for free. In return for that free advertising, that website has rules which include the prohibition of shill bidding. If it were my website, and you did that to me, I wouldn't let you sell on my website.

bowmanchromeandorr · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz said:
I am sorry, I do not see the problem here? The guy listed the cards for .99 because of the free listing (saves money). when it appeared the cards would sell for only .99, he wanted to protect his investment. They ar his cards, and if he does not want to sell them for .99, this is really his only option. I do not see the problem? I know everyone will say it is against Ebay policy, but that is only a policy so Ebay can make money. I know I will get flamed here, but I totally see the sellers point of view.

give us your ebay id so we know to not bid on your auctions. shilling is kinda stupid.

Zan · Jul 28, 2010

[quote="Card Magnet"
Thanks for interest in my auctions. I am not familiar with the reports that you have filed? Did you recieve any and all items that you may have won from our store before? If not I would be happy to either send a refund or replacement. Thanks again for your interest.[/quote]
That's what you call a canned response.

zan

nyc3 · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz it isnt only against ebays rules, its against the law. Just no one is going after the ebay shill bidders and rightfully so. Bypassing rules and laws isnt an excuse to protecting and investment. If the seller cant afford to lose money he shouldnt be selling cards.

notjomommasclint · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz said:
I am sorry, I do not see the problem here? The guy listed the cards for .99 because of the free listing (saves money). when it appeared the cards would sell for only .99, he wanted to protect his investment. They ar his cards, and if he does not want to sell them for .99, this is really his only option. I do not see the problem? I know everyone will say it is against Ebay policy, but that is only a policy so Ebay can make money. I know I will get flamed here, but I totally see the sellers point of view.

if he wants more for his cards he could possibly start them at his lowest acceptable price.

bodiaz · Jul 28, 2010

Fandruw25 said:
bodiaz said:

I have never done it (only 1 eBay id) , just saying I can see why He would.

Click to expand...

I can see why too but that doesn't make it right. If he has a price in mind he has a few options....Start it at a higher opening bid, Set a Reserve or list it as a Buy it now.

All of which come with fees. Ebay offers free .99 cent listings. This is like roids on baseball in the nineties, against the rules with no penalty. I do not see the problem. It is his item, if he doesn't want to take a loss, them don't.

UMich92 · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz said:
Fandruw25 said:

bodiaz said:

I have never done it (only 1 eBay id) , just saying I can see why He would.

Click to expand...

I can see why too but that doesn't make it right. If he has a price in mind he has a few options....Start it at a higher opening bid, Set a Reserve or list it as a Buy it now.

Click to expand...

All of which come with fees. Ebay offers free .99 cent listings. This is like roids on baseball in the nineties, against the rules with no penalty. I do not see the problem. It is his item, if he doesn't want to take a loss, them don't.

Except this isn't just against ebay rules, it's illegal to shill auctions.

bowmanchromeandorr · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz ,ust be from chicago where everyone votes early and often, even the dead people

f2tornado · Jul 28, 2010

bodiaz said:
Fandruw25 said:

bodiaz said:

I have never done it (only 1 eBay id) , just saying I can see why He would.

Click to expand...

I can see why too but that doesn't make it right. If he has a price in mind he has a few options....Start it at a higher opening bid, Set a Reserve or list it as a Buy it now.

Click to expand...

All of which come with fees. Ebay offers free .99 cent listings. This is like roids on baseball in the nineties, against the rules with no penalty. I do not see the problem. It is his item, if he doesn't want to take a loss, them don't.

I can see your point of view only provided the seller's shill account was the ending highest bidder on every one of those shills. In this respect the seller eats the FVF and no bidder loses money. If the shill account is not the highest bidder then someone else got screwed. As far as the roids comparison goes, just ask Big Mac about the stigma and Hall of Shame plaque.

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