The prime suspects might never have cards again

JoshHamilton said:

ITG, Panini, Razor, etc would have to sign them to individual contracts. Bonds would be out of this world expensive and not worth it. No one wants Palmeiro (other than NYCrulesU, and I don't consider him a human being).

Guys like Pete Rose were great for Panini and ITG. High demand, low price (Rose will do anything for money). Bonds is low demand, high price

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predatorkj said:

JoshHamilton said:

ITG, Panini, Razor, etc would have to sign them to individual contracts. Bonds would be out of this world expensive and not worth it. No one wants Palmeiro (other than NYCrulesU, and I don't consider him a human being).

Guys like Pete Rose were great for Panini and ITG. High demand, low price (Rose will do anything for money). Bonds is low demand, high price

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You say that but whoever does sign them has some exclusivity as well. Supply and demand. So at least some will sell because they are the only ones who have them.

As for NCYrulesU, where the hell is that guy? I haven't seen him here in ages.

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smapdi said:

Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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uniquebaseballcards said:

Hmm, good observation. McGwire and Palmeiro already have almost 5,000 cards to chase each...Bonds 11,600 (?!) if I'm reading Beckett right. Will the sheer numbers of cards these guys already have make their future cards less interesting?

I wonder if in the future cards made while the player was playing will be more popular than his post-retirement cards.

smapdi said:

Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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predatorkj said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

Hmm, good observation. McGwire and Palmeiro already have almost 5,000 cards to chase each...Bonds 11,600 (?!) if I'm reading Beckett right. Will the sheer numbers of cards these guys already have make their future cards less interesting?

I wonder if in the future cards made while the player was playing will be more popular than his post-retirement cards.

smapdi said:

Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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Doubtful. Seeing as how most of the post retirement stuff is all GU/autos/serial numbered. People like that stuff.

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henderson939 said:

Harsh words for NYCrulesU. I thought he was alright. Wasnt he planning a major move to more peaceful life out west?

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Russ S. said:

predatorkj said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

Hmm, good observation. McGwire and Palmeiro already have almost 5,000 cards to chase each...Bonds 11,600 (?!) if I'm reading Beckett right. Will the sheer numbers of cards these guys already have make their future cards less interesting?

I wonder if in the future cards made while the player was playing will be more popular than his post-retirement cards.

smapdi said:

Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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Doubtful. Seeing as how most of the post retirement stuff is all GU/autos/serial numbered. People like that stuff.

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Agreed.
I haven't seen ANY decline in Ripken popularity in cards.

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uniquebaseballcards said:

One HUGE difference is that Ripken retired in 2001, he didn't have very many gu/autos at all at that time, and only serial numbered cards at the tail end of his career; I don't think Ripken would be a good example.

It will be interesting to see the future demand of more modern players - ones who started their MLB careers within the last four or five years - and see how popular their post-retirement cards with all the latest 'bells & whistles' will be (assuming there are new bells & whistles) given the number of cards they have produced nowadays.

Russ S. said:

predatorkj said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

Hmm, good observation. McGwire and Palmeiro already have almost 5,000 cards to chase each...Bonds 11,600 (?!) if I'm reading Beckett right. Will the sheer numbers of cards these guys already have make their future cards less interesting?

I wonder if in the future cards made while the player was playing will be more popular than his post-retirement cards.

smapdi said:

Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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Doubtful. Seeing as how most of the post retirement stuff is all GU/autos/serial numbered. People like that stuff.

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Agreed.
I haven't seen ANY decline in Ripken popularity in cards.

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mannyramirezcollec said:

henderson939 said:

Harsh words for NYCrulesU. I thought he was alright. Wasnt he planning a major move to more peaceful life out west?

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Yeah then he went to Baltimore and paid some prostitutes for handys or something like that, he also talked about hitting his wife....but other then that he seemed like a cool guy.

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Russ S. said:

predatorkj said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

Hmm, good observation. McGwire and Palmeiro already have almost 5,000 cards to chase each...Bonds 11,600 (?!) if I'm reading Beckett right. Will the sheer numbers of cards these guys already have make their future cards less interesting?

I wonder if in the future cards made while the player was playing will be more popular than his post-retirement cards.

smapdi said:

Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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Doubtful. Seeing as how most of the post retirement stuff is all GU/autos/serial numbered. People like that stuff.

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Agreed.
I haven't seen ANY decline in Ripken popularity in cards.

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uniquebaseballcards said:

One HUGE difference is that Ripken retired in 2001, he didn't have very many gu/autos at all at that time, and only serial numbered cards at the tail end of his career; I don't think Ripken would be a good example.

It will be interesting to see the future demand of more modern players - ones who started their MLB careers within the last four or five years - and see how popular their post-retirement cards with all the latest 'bells & whistles' will be (assuming there are new bells & whistles) given the number of cards they have produced nowadays.

Russ S. said:

predatorkj said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

Hmm, good observation. McGwire and Palmeiro already have almost 5,000 cards to chase each...Bonds 11,600 (?!) if I'm reading Beckett right. Will the sheer numbers of cards these guys already have make their future cards less interesting?

I wonder if in the future cards made while the player was playing will be more popular than his post-retirement cards.

smapdi said:

Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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Doubtful. Seeing as how most of the post retirement stuff is all GU/autos/serial numbered. People like that stuff.

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Agreed.
I haven't seen ANY decline in Ripken popularity in cards.

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nborton said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

One HUGE difference is that Ripken retired in 2001, he didn't have very many gu/autos at all at that time, and only serial numbered cards at the tail end of his career; I don't think Ripken would be a good example.

It will be interesting to see the future demand of more modern players - ones who started their MLB careers within the last four or five years - and see how popular their post-retirement cards with all the latest 'bells & whistles' will be (assuming there are new bells & whistles) given the number of cards they have produced nowadays.

Russ S. said:

predatorkj said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

Hmm, good observation. McGwire and Palmeiro already have almost 5,000 cards to chase each...Bonds 11,600 (?!) if I'm reading Beckett right. Will the sheer numbers of cards these guys already have make their future cards less interesting?

I wonder if in the future cards made while the player was playing will be more popular than his post-retirement cards.

[quote="smapdi":17xpknaf]Bonds, McGwire, Clemens, Palmeiro, et al, put up some amazing numbers, but what they did with or without PEDs will forever be a mystery. However, none have had cards recently from the major licensed producers, UD or Topps. Clemens had some 2009 cards, and he and McGwire and Bonds are in 2010 sets from off-brands like Obak, Sport Kings, and Famous Fabrics. Actually, the Sport Kings cards of McGwire are really nice looking. But I think Bonds's last cards were in 2007 and Palmeiro's in 2006. Bonds was an oddity in the hobby for his last couple years before retiring anyway, but he was still in some major sets.

I just find it odd that, tainted though they may be, such major figures disappear from the hobby nearly completely. I'm sure at some point they'll be back after enough time passes and there's time for passions to cool about the whole era. I mean, in 2020, it'll seem like ancient history, especially if someone like A-Rod or, preferably, Pujols, is able to take over the all-time home run lead and make everyone feel better.

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Doubtful. Seeing as how most of the post retirement stuff is all GU/autos/serial numbered. People like that stuff.

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Agreed.
I haven't seen ANY decline in Ripken popularity in cards.

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