2010 USA Baseball Box Set Autos - Thoughts? (Poll Inside)

NECpilgrims8 · Dec 20, 2010

We finally get to see the numbered breakdown of the USA Box Set Base set autographs.

Red Auto /99 (Previous /25)

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Green Auto /25 (Previous /2)

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What are your thoughts?

(This is only for the base set autos, not the patch autos.)

Jaypers · Dec 20, 2010

Aww, crap. In other words, they cranked up the presses to no end. Not digging that at all. At least UD knew how to set limits.

200lbhockeyplayer · Dec 20, 2010

Not crazy about the studio shots. Not at all. Kind of makes the card lifeless.

As far as the serial-numbering...it doesn't really matter to me, although it gives more opportunity for "jersey number" serial numbering.

Jaypers · Dec 20, 2010

As for the design, I don't like these any better than the ones inserted into TC. And as Mike said, the hand numbering might lead to some unscrupulous behavior.

topprospectalert · Dec 20, 2010

Sticking with Chrome all the way. These things look awful.

Bob Loblaw · Dec 20, 2010

LAte 1980s boxed Walgreens/Eckerds 44 card set.

blazers091 · Dec 20, 2010

yuck. these look like crap

mike1870 · Dec 20, 2010

I am staying with Bowman Chrome Draft USA. I LOVE THE FLAG IN THE BACKGROUND. Very nice touch

Crash Davis · Dec 20, 2010

Jaypers said:
Aww, crap. In other words, they cranked up the presses to no end. Not digging that at all. At least UD knew how to set limits.

While the red and green parallels are serial-numbered higher this year, it is my understanding that there are no autograph sub-sets as has been the staple for UD releases in years past.

In other words, there are base, red and green autos (maybe 1/1s though the outside of the box doesn't have odds), auto relics and auto patches and that's it.

No "Big Sigs" or "Q&A" or any of the other useless subsets that UD used to put out.

Plus the autograph checklist is 63 deep.

Plus in the two sets that I have opened, there were two red parallel autos in one set and one in the other.

Crash Davis · Dec 20, 2010

blazers091 said:
yuck. these look like crap

To me these look like AFLAC cards. I'm not a big fan of this design either; however, the autograph relic and patch cards are much nicer.

200lbhockeyplayer · Dec 20, 2010

Anyone have an idea of MSRP and "guaranteed" box breakdown?

Crash Davis · Dec 20, 2010

200lbhockeyplayer said:
Anyone have an idea of MSRP and "guaranteed" box breakdown?

I believe SRP is $100. It should be the same as UD's was.

Seven autographs per box and three relics, I believe.

I opened two sets and got five on-card autographs and two auto/relics in one box and four on-card autos, two auto/relics and one auto patch in the other.

200lbhockeyplayer · Dec 20, 2010

Crash Davis said:
200lbhockeyplayer said:

Anyone have an idea of MSRP and "guaranteed" box breakdown?

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I believe SRP is $100. It should be the same as UD's was.

Seven autographs per box and three relics, I believe.

I opened two sets and got five on-card autographs and two auto/relics in one box and four on-card autos, two auto/relics and one auto patch in the other.

Clearly I've missed the a full break somewhere, have a scan of the break? Base cards?

Jaypers · Dec 20, 2010

200lbhockeyplayer said:
Crash Davis said:

200lbhockeyplayer said:

Anyone have an idea of MSRP and "guaranteed" box breakdown?

Click to expand...

I believe SRP is $100. It should be the same as UD's was.

Seven autographs per box and three relics, I believe.

I opened two sets and got five on-card autographs and two auto/relics in one box and four on-card autos, two auto/relics and one auto patch in the other.

Click to expand...

Clearly I've missed the a full break somewhere, have a scan of the break? Base cards?

He hasn't posted it yet; probably because the live date isn't until this week.

I'd be curious to see the results as well.

NECpilgrims8 · Dec 20, 2010

Crash Davis said:
Jaypers said:

Aww, crap. In other words, they cranked up the presses to no end. Not digging that at all. At least UD knew how to set limits.

Click to expand...

While the red and green parallels are serial-numbered higher this year, it is my understanding that there are no autograph sub-sets as has been the staple for UD releases in years past.

In other words, there are base, red and green autos (maybe 1/1s though the outside of the box doesn't have odds), auto relics and auto patches and that's it.

No "Big Sigs" or "Q&A" or any of the other useless subsets that UD used to put out.

Plus the autograph checklist is 63 deep.

Plus in the two sets that I have opened, there were two red parallel autos in one set and one in the other.

While the market right now doesn't show it, those sub-set autos actually represent value in the breaks. While the base sets were a focus in the past, the other autos were a draw to the breaker. Variety creates a feeling of getting more to the consumer, plus many of those Big Sigs, Q&A, IHOW, etc sold well for the first few months. The market has clearly lowered as the new products shift attention.

The hand numbering is just unacceptable on a set that was planned so far back. If chrome releases can be serial numbered (and there are far more cards to stamp in those sets), these can easily be stamped. Hand numbering just makes the product look extremely rushed.

There were never 1/1 base autos in the UD product. Always Base (2008 were /175, 2009 were unnumbered), red /25, and Green /2.

Crash Davis · Dec 20, 2010

Jaypers said:
200lbhockeyplayer said:

Crash Davis said:

200lbhockeyplayer said:

Anyone have an idea of MSRP and "guaranteed" box breakdown?

Click to expand...

I believe SRP is $100. It should be the same as UD's was.

Seven autographs per box and three relics, I believe.

I opened two sets and got five on-card autographs and two auto/relics in one box and four on-card autos, two auto/relics and one auto patch in the other.

Click to expand...

Clearly I've missed the a full break somewhere, have a scan of the break? Base cards?

Click to expand...

He hasn't posted it yet; probably because the live date isn't until this week.

I'd be curious to see the results as well.

I don't usually post breaks. I am trying to be somewhat helpful right now and share with you my two set break. I'm not a big fan of the base autos, though they are on-card. The auto/relics and auto/patch cards are very nice. If you recall the last year of Topps basketball they had triple relics. The auto relics are designed to resemble those.

I just checked eBay and I've noticed that somebody posted base autos for sale. Hopefully the guy will list some auto/relics so you can see them. They are really much nicer than the base autos. They are all auto triple relics #/219. The auto patches are #/50 and have the 3-jersey window with a full patch underneath.

Now if only some of the base autos weren't laminated. They look like the cards you had made of yourself as a little leaguer back in the 1980s.

Crash Davis · Dec 20, 2010

NECpilgrims8 said:
Crash Davis said:

Jaypers said:

Aww, crap. In other words, they cranked up the presses to no end. Not digging that at all. At least UD knew how to set limits.

Click to expand...

While the red and green parallels are serial-numbered higher this year, it is my understanding that there are no autograph sub-sets as has been the staple for UD releases in years past.

In other words, there are base, red and green autos (maybe 1/1s though the outside of the box doesn't have odds), auto relics and auto patches and that's it.

No "Big Sigs" or "Q&A" or any of the other useless subsets that UD used to put out.

Plus the autograph checklist is 63 deep.

Plus in the two sets that I have opened, there were two red parallel autos in one set and one in the other.

Click to expand...

While the market right now doesn't show it, those sub-set autos actually represent value in the breaks. While the base sets were a focus in the past, the other autos were a draw to the breaker. Variety creates a feeling of getting more to the consumer, plus many of those Big Sigs, Q&A, IHOW, etc sold well for the first few months. The market has clearly lowered as the new products shift attention.

The hand numbering is just unacceptable on a set that was planned so far back. If chrome releases can be serial numbered (and there are far more cards to stamp in those sets), these can easily be stamped. Hand numbering just makes the product look extremely rushed.

There were never 1/1 base autos in the UD product. Always Base (2008 were /175, 2009 were unnumbered), red /25, and Green /2.

I agree the hand-numbering is weak. It seems to me that it would've taken less effort to machine-number them.

The auto/relics are machine-numbered though. Thank goodness for that.

I hated the subsets BUT that's just me.

It will be interesting to see how these do.

drewdaddy42 · Dec 20, 2010

Anyone of have a link to a finalized checklist? Couldn't open blowouts. So if there are /219 Auto Triple Jersey cards and 65 signers that is a total of 14235 Auto Triple Jersey and falling two per box that comes out to a 7117 boxes or approximately 1186 cases. How does that stack against previous production? If I remember correctly UD kept it to 5,000 boxes?

Of course that is all assuming there are no parallel Auto Triple Jersey cards.

sdsportsfan1214 · Dec 20, 2010

They remind me of Aflacs

Crash Davis · Dec 20, 2010

drewdaddy42 said:
Anyone of have a link to a finalized checklist? Couldn't open blowouts. So if there are /219 Auto Triple Jersey cards and 65 signers that is a total of 14235 Auto Triple Jersey and falling two per box that comes out to a 7117 boxes or approximately 1186 cases. How does that stack against previous production? If I remember correctly UD kept it to 5,000 boxes?

Of course that is all assuming there are no parallel Auto Triple Jersey cards.

It's 63 signers on the base checklist, and I believe 63 on the auto relics. There are parallels to 50 as auto patches. I'm not sure if all players have auto patches.

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