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Hallsgator said:Meh one of our guys threw 160 in one of his starts. If you're strong with solid mechanics, you can handle it.
Wouldnt go that far. Doing it once is one thing but over and over again like Bauer won't end well.poppudaimadochi said:Hallsgator said:Meh one of our guys threw 160 in one of his starts. If you're strong with solid mechanics, you can handle it.
I'm Trevor Bauer and I approve this message
shayscards79 said:I believe Nolan Ryan threw 160 pitches in a game before.
bigpapiMA32 said:shayscards79 said:I believe Nolan Ryan threw 160 pitches in a game before.
It was 254 in a 13 inning effort in 1974.
Wakefield topped 170 back in 1993.
aminors said:132? Good, that shows he's slightly less pussified than the rest of MLB's pitchers.
Yeah, I'm gonna get bashed for saying that if the right people see it, but come on. Pitchers of old threw that or more every 3 days. Nowadays it's "ZOMG, poor baby! Why did you have to throw more than 90 pitches? Go see the trainer right away! Do you need an extra week to rest? That's soo many pitches!"
You know what, I hope Trevor Bauer pitches 150+ every time out in the big leagues then gets on TV and says "Hey pitch counters, suck my ball sack."
and for the record, I think he will (remain in good physical health while throwing 150-160+ pitches/game).
Just like Lincecum...wait, that guy has 2 Cy Youngs and a WS Ring, WTF!?!?!??!Hallsgator said:Wouldnt go that far. Doing it once is one thing but over and over again like Bauer won't end well.poppudaimadochi said:Hallsgator said:Meh one of our guys threw 160 in one of his starts. If you're strong with solid mechanics, you can handle it.
I'm Trevor Bauer and I approve this message
aminors said:132? Good, that shows he's slightly less pussified than the rest of MLB's pitchers.
Yeah, I'm gonna get bashed for saying that if the right people see it, but come on. Pitchers of old threw that or more every 3 days. Nowadays it's "ZOMG, poor baby! Why did you have to throw more than 90 pitches? Go see the trainer right away! Do you need an extra week to rest? That's soo many pitches!"
You know what, I hope Trevor Bauer pitches 150+ every time out in the big leagues then gets on TV and says "Hey pitch counters, suck my ball sack."
and for the record, I think he will (remain in good physical health while throwing 150-160+ pitches/game).
No two pitchers are the same when it comes to their arms. If Bauer is special, he could handle it, but for every Lincecum, there's hundreds of pitchers that have had arm and pitching problems due to over use in college.GiantsSuperCollector said:Just like Lincecum...wait, that guy has 2 Cy Youngs and a WS Ring, WTF!?!?!??!Hallsgator said:Wouldnt go that far. Doing it once is one thing but over and over again like Bauer won't end well.poppudaimadochi said:Hallsgator said:Meh one of our guys threw 160 in one of his starts. If you're strong with solid mechanics, you can handle it.
I'm Trevor Bauer and I approve this message
Randy Shields said:aminors said:132? Good, that shows he's slightly less pussified than the rest of MLB's pitchers.
Yeah, I'm gonna get bashed for saying that if the right people see it, but come on. Pitchers of old threw that or more every 3 days. Nowadays it's "ZOMG, poor baby! Why did you have to throw more than 90 pitches? Go see the trainer right away! Do you need an extra week to rest? That's soo many pitches!"
You know what, I hope Trevor Bauer pitches 150+ every time out in the big leagues then gets on TV and says "Hey pitch counters, suck my ball sack."
and for the record, I think he will (remain in good physical health while throwing 150-160+ pitches/game).
Not going to get bashed by me. I grew up watching baseball where there was not set-up guy and no closer. A lot of guys pitched 9 innings.
Having said that I don't think it's a pitcher thing, I think it's an owner, GM, manager thing along with the way things have pregressed or digressed depending on how you look at it over the last say 20 years or so. These guys are getting payed millions of $$ so the need to protect them by the above said is extremely high. Yes it makes them look like a bunch of sissies in my book but what are you going to do. I think the pitchers themselves would want to throw more innings and pitch more complete games if they could but it's obviously out of they're control
I used to go to games with my Dad and get really good seats for $5-$8. Same seats today are more like $50-$60 at an "average" park. That's because these guys are being paid what they are and of course costs get passed on to the consumer so to speak.
It's just not the same game today and never will be like it or not. So when I see Verlander throw 132 or Bauer 160 I say Great, knowing full well though that likelyhood of this happening will be extremely sparatic at best.
And Verlander, 100 mph on his 132 pitch? This is just a telltale sign of what he and other pitchers "could" do if we went back in time and weren't in today's state of the art protection program.
jeremy said:why didnt they bring in al alburqurque?
Thanked.Vagrant said:Cavemen need to move out of the dark ages. In the dead ball era it was routine for pitchers to pitch complete games. Does that mean the bar has now been set?
All pitchers now throw as hard as they can velocity wise and that is too much to be throwing 100 times per game. Cutters, sliders, curves.... all that torque on the elbow and shoulder. Guys in Ryan's time used to grove it on the first strike to certain batters and throw balls out of the zone on others on a wing and a prayer. Pitching isn't the same game anymore. Those that fail to adjust, like Dusty Baker, have RUINED some great young arms. And there are people here calling for that? Shame on you.
Vagrant said:Cavemen need to move out of the dark ages. In the dead ball era it was routine for pitchers to pitch complete games. Does that mean the bar has now been set?
All pitchers now throw as hard as they can velocity wise and that is too much to be throwing 100 times per game. Cutters, sliders, curves.... all that torque on the elbow and shoulder. Guys in Ryan's time used to grove it on the first strike to certain batters and throw balls out of the zone on others on a wing and a prayer. Pitching isn't the same game anymore. Those that fail to adjust, like Dusty Baker, have RUINED some great young arms. And there are people here calling for that? Shame on you.