Junk era question/discussion

sportscardtheory · Feb 2, 2012

Talking 15-30 years into the future, what are some "junk era" products from 1986 to 1993 that you think could become more valuable due the cases/boxes/packs eventually drying-up and people throwing away a ton of it? I know there is a TON of most of it available, but you would think EVENTUALLY some of it could "dry-up" due to mass opening and being tossed. I think 1989, 1990 and 1991 Bowman could be pretty good candidates for a bump in the future with all the rookie cards of HOFers and such. What else do you think could see a spike 15-30 years down the road and why, if any?

sportscardtheory · Feb 2, 2012

I truly think that the 1989 Bowman Ken Griffey Jr. rookie could eventually overtake the Upper Deck rookie card deep into the future as the "one to have" due to existing in such less quantities. It's most likely the most limited true RC of Junior in existence.

1st4040 · Feb 2, 2012

this product will never dry up... there are warehouses upon warehouses full of it still so unless alot of arson takes place they will forever be worthless.

uniquebaseballcards · Feb 2, 2012

1989 Bowman is bigger than a standard card which is a drawback.

If the first thing someone looks at is how much it costs (which is a big shame really) then this era isn't for them. However some truly great cards were produced in this time, especially '87 Topps, '89 Donruss and '91 Topps.

blanning71 · Feb 2, 2012

Man, I thought the title read junk area question /discussion. Thought you were lookin for advice on a rash or swelling.

TBTwinsFan · Feb 2, 2012

blanning71 said:
Man, I thought the title read junk area question /discussion. Thought you were lookin for advice on a rash or swelling.

:lol:

I kinda like the junk era... there's no autos and game used so that's a plus. My only issue is the quantity of the cards. It's nuts how many boxes are still floating around.

I am basically just passing off all of my '80s cards to the thrift store. I've probably given them 6,000 commons (along with selling close to 20,000 over the years) and I am no where near finished.

ThoseBackPages · Feb 2, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
1989 Bowman is bigger than a standard card which is a drawback.

This is the first thing i think of when it comes to '89B

i feel that 1992 is probably the end of the "junk wax" era. Sure there is 1992 Bowman, but those boxes are artificially pumped up imo. plenty out there.

1993 as far as wax has Finest & SP which although not "rare", will always have a high price tag for wax.

1993 wax with Jeter rookies in it will always sell for more then those without it, that's something to keep in mind when you want to rip wax to find guys/inserts you collect.

sportscardtheory · Feb 2, 2012

blanning71 said:
Man, I thought the title read junk area question /discussion. Thought you were lookin for advice on a rash or swelling.

lol My "junk area" is just fine, thankfully.

ThoseBackPages · Feb 2, 2012

as far as which 1986 to 1991 wax items that could be good down the line ...

1987 Leaf
1987 O-Pee-Chee
1989 O-Pee-Chee
1990 Bowman
1990 O-Pee-Chee
1991 Bowman
1991 O-Pee-Chee

sportscardtheory · Feb 2, 2012

ThoseBackPages said:
as far as which 1986 to 1991 wax items that could be good down the line ...

1987 Leaf
1987 O-Pee-Chee
1989 O-Pee-Chee
1990 Bowman
1990 O-Pee-Chee
1991 Bowman
1991 O-Pee-Chee

In regards to 1989 Bowman, I don't think that the oversize matters. 1952 Topps is oversize and it doesn't affect the value one bit. I completely agree on the O-Pee-Chee issues. They are completely underrated. Is there a 1987 Larkin OPC rookie?

ThoseBackPages · Feb 2, 2012

sportscardtheory said:
ThoseBackPages said:

as far as which 1986 to 1991 wax items that could be good down the line ...

1987 Leaf
1987 O-Pee-Chee
1989 O-Pee-Chee
1990 Bowman
1990 O-Pee-Chee
1991 Bowman
1991 O-Pee-Chee

Click to expand...

In regards to 1989 Bowman, I don't think that the oversize matters. 1952 Topps is oversize and it doesn't affect the value one bit. I completely agree on the O-Pee-Chee issues. They are completely underrated. Is there a 1987 Larkin OPC rookie?

now now now, you didnt just try to justify '89B being oversized because '52 - '56 Topps are, did you? :lol:

No, Larkin (and Bo Jackson) is not in '87 O-Pee-Chee

sportscardtheory · Feb 2, 2012

High grade O-Pee-Chee rookies of stars and HOFers are diamonds in the rough.

sportscardtheory · Feb 2, 2012

ThoseBackPages said:
sportscardtheory said:

ThoseBackPages said:

as far as which 1986 to 1991 wax items that could be good down the line ...

1987 Leaf
1987 O-Pee-Chee
1989 O-Pee-Chee
1990 Bowman
1990 O-Pee-Chee
1991 Bowman
1991 O-Pee-Chee

Click to expand...

In regards to 1989 Bowman, I don't think that the oversize matters. 1952 Topps is oversize and it doesn't affect the value one bit. I completely agree on the O-Pee-Chee issues. They are completely underrated. Is there a 1987 Larkin OPC rookie?

Click to expand...

now now now, you didnt just try to justify '89B being oversized because '52 - '56 Topps are, did you? :lol:

No, Larkin (and Bo Jackson) is not in '87 O-Pee-Chee

Well, yeah. People don't mind that those sets are oversize, why would it matter with any other set.

uniquebaseballcards · Feb 2, 2012

sportscardtheory said:
ThoseBackPages said:

sportscardtheory said:

ThoseBackPages said:

as far as which 1986 to 1991 wax items that could be good down the line ...

1987 Leaf
1987 O-Pee-Chee
1989 O-Pee-Chee
1990 Bowman
1990 O-Pee-Chee
1991 Bowman
1991 O-Pee-Chee

Click to expand...

In regards to 1989 Bowman, I don't think that the oversize matters. 1952 Topps is oversize and it doesn't affect the value one bit. I completely agree on the O-Pee-Chee issues. They are completely underrated. Is there a 1987 Larkin OPC rookie?

Click to expand...

now now now, you didnt just try to justify '89B being oversized because '52 - '56 Topps are, did you? :lol:

No, Larkin (and Bo Jackson) is not in '87 O-Pee-Chee

Click to expand...

Well, yeah. People don't mind that those sets are oversize, why would it matter with any other set.

Its an issue of '89B not being 'standard' for the era.

On that note smaller is easier to 'deal with' and store than bigger in a collection - which is why when it comes to non-standard sized cards people don't mind minis as much.

sportscardtheory · Feb 2, 2012

uniquebaseballcards said:
sportscardtheory said:

ThoseBackPages said:

sportscardtheory said:

ThoseBackPages said:

as far as which 1986 to 1991 wax items that could be good down the line ...

1987 Leaf
1987 O-Pee-Chee
1989 O-Pee-Chee
1990 Bowman
1990 O-Pee-Chee
1991 Bowman
1991 O-Pee-Chee

Click to expand...

In regards to 1989 Bowman, I don't think that the oversize matters. 1952 Topps is oversize and it doesn't affect the value one bit. I completely agree on the O-Pee-Chee issues. They are completely underrated. Is there a 1987 Larkin OPC rookie?

Click to expand...

now now now, you didnt just try to justify '89B being oversized because '52 - '56 Topps are, did you? :lol:

No, Larkin (and Bo Jackson) is not in '87 O-Pee-Chee

Click to expand...

Well, yeah. People don't mind that those sets are oversize, why would it matter with any other set.

Click to expand...

Its an issue of '89B not being 'standard' for the era.

On that note smaller is easier to 'deal with' and store than bigger in a collection - which is why when it comes to non-standard sized cards people don't mind minis as much.

I find them to be unique. Plus it's harder to get a high grade due to the size. Everyone has different tastes though. In regards to the Griffey Jr. RC, I think it's his best looking RC and it's probably the least produced of all his RCs.

clarkfan · Feb 2, 2012

There is still some gems left in the junk era, so I think interest will always be there, but on a very few select items. Seller pulled the listing, but it was well on its way to a crazy sell price.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAL-RIPKEN-...0808209762?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2a19025562

19braves77 · Feb 2, 2012

Wouldn't 1990 Leaf be considered ?

I would think the 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany be better then the 89 Bowman Griffey ?

DaClyde · Feb 2, 2012

I think we're still a decade away from the 1990 Bowman set getting over $12 again. It's every bit as plentiful as 1990 Topps, Fleer or Donruss, and those are all crap sets, too. Bowman has a slight edge in player selection, but more than makes up for that in overwhelming production numbers.

ThoseBackPages · Feb 2, 2012

DaClyde said:
I think we're still a decade away from the 1990 Bowman set getting over $12 again. It's every bit as plentiful as 1990 Topps, Fleer or Donruss, and those are all crap sets, too. Bowman has a slight edge in player selection, but more than makes up for that in overwhelming production numbers.

'91 Bowman has the advantage of no factory sets. But i realize that its like spitting in the ocean lol

ThoseBackPages · Feb 2, 2012

19braves77 said:
Wouldn't 1990 Leaf be considered ?

I would think the 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany be better then the 89 Bowman Griffey ?

1990 Leaf is a great rip at $55 a box as it is now.

as for the Griffeys, if one were to consider his 1989 "Tiffany/Glossy" issues a "Rookie Card" then their High Grade "value" order would be:

Bowman Tiffany
Fleer Glossy
Topps Tiffany

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