Anyone know bigboydsportscards3 on eBay? SHILL alert?

[Jack Straw]

If this card wasn't shilled I will eat my shirt. 10 15 tops no way this card gets 50+......
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290700606815?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

If this card wasn't shilled I will eat my shirt. 10 15 tops no way this card gets 50+......
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290700606815?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649

Hope you're hungry Looking at the bid activity of the bidders this auction seems fine.

 

[bigboydsportscards3]

Wow, it's amazing how many misconceptions and false rumors/accusations are out there about us. I don't have the time to currently address everything in this thread, but I will note a few things.. The user with 97% bid history is swagcards. He has stated this before on BO forums. If you are not familiar with him, he is the #1 seller on COMC. I don't know him personally, I just know he buys a lot of stuff from us. He has purchased approx 3,000 items from us in the last 12 months or so. He pays for everything he wins through paypal. I don't know if he uses another name to bid on other stuff, but we have never had an issue with him and he is a good customer.

In my opinion, bid history is a horrible way in itself to judge shill bidding. If shill bidding is going on, the seller would be re-listing the same items over and over again. The only accusation we have never got from shill bidding has to do with bid history. We have loyal customers. That is what happens when you run 2,000+ auctions every week for years. If anyone else ran the type of volume we did for the amount of time we have, they would see the same bid history trends with their items. It's unavoidable. We are continually punished with accusations because we have a loyal customer base. I would think anyone that shill bids auction is smart enough to keep the bid history on their account low. If we were shill bidding items, do you really think we would use an account with 50%+ bid history to do so? I'm sure most of the people that actually do shill bid items are very good at it and no one would ever know.. Also, no matter what you think, ebay is very strict on shill bidding. We once had an old part time employee win an item from us a year after he stopped working. Ebay immediately gave us a warning for shill bidding because of this. I had to call our ebay rep and explain it was an old employee and it took about a week's time to get that taken care of. Ebay gives no special perks to no one, I have many complaints with ebay and how they run things but that is for another thread..

As for other stuff.. I haven't been to a card show in about 10 years, so no one has bought anything from us at a show or even seen me at a show.. We had a retail location in the year 2000 for a few months, but decided retail wasn't the best fit for me. I have never pack searched anything.. We did have an issue with some re-sealed boxes 6-7 years ago. Obviously we stopped drop-shipping wax after that. We rarely sell wax now, but anything we do sell is owned and shipped by us. I don't hang around a group of people.. I've had one full time employee for the last 7-8 years, and a few part time guys her and there..

If anyone has any questions, feel free to email me at [email protected] or give me a call at 513-833-5158. Or you can post to this thread and I will do my best to answer any questions. To clarify - We don't shill bid auctions. We have never shill bid auctions. We never will shill bid auctions. Put it this way.. I guarantee on my kids that I don't shill bid auctions. I don't know how I can get much clearer than that.

Terry

 

[CAROLINA BOSOX]

I just purchased 2 Jackie Bradley cards from BigBoyd and was very pleased. I put my max bid in and won both auctions at prices I was comfortable paying. Had the auctions gone higher, I would have looked elsewhere, so no problems with Boyds for me.

 

[G $MONEY$]

Also, no matter what you think, ebay is very strict on shill bidding. We once had an old part time employee win an item from us a year after he stopped working. Ebay immediately gave us a warning for shill bidding because of this. I had to call our ebay rep and explain it was an old employee and it took about a week's time to get that taken care of. Ebay gives no special perks to no one, I have many complaints with ebay and how they run things but that is for another thread..

Im curious.... this Ex-Part time employee, who hadn't worked for you in a year, bid and won an item from you. How the hell would Ebay have any idea that this guy was connected with you???

 

[hoopster3977]

There are too many instances of zany bidding on numerous auctions by bigboyd. So many that I will not bid on any of his items.

 

[bigboydsportscards3]

Im curious.... this Ex-Part time employee, who hadn't worked for you in a year, bid and won an item from you. How the hell would Ebay have any idea that this guy was connected with you???

IP address. There was activity from both accounts at the same IP address.

 

[LazerShow15]

Good explanation Terry, so we will all take you at your word, BUT shill bidders do not want to win the card, they just jack up the price at somewhere of a happy medium as they know what cards go for. There are too many people on here with experiences so it is hard to not listen to them. Do you know Chad? That is the question.

 

[hoopster3977]

Terry, I would like to ask you this:

How come you have an identical card for auction as I do, I have one bid of $.99 running the auction for 7 days. You have your identical item on a 10 day auction with 8 days left and your item has been bid up to $44?

This was an instance that occurred this week.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUBBA-STARL...0702292761?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43af34f719

Edit: My auction for the same identical card is bid up to $19 with just over a day left, while yours has 5 days left.

 

[bigboydsportscards3]

Good explanation Terry, so we will all take you at your word, BUT shill bidders do not want to win the card, they just jack up the price at somewhere of a happy medium as they know what cards go for. There are too many people on here with experiences so it is hard to not listen to them. Do you know Chad? That is the question.

What are their experiences? That someone has high bid activity? Yes, I know Chad and I buy a lot of stuff from him. I do a lot of business with many different people.

Terry, I would like to ask you this:

How come you have an identical card for auction as I do, I have one bid of $.99 running the auction for 7 days. You have your identical item on a 10 day auction with 8 days left and your item has been bid up to $44?

This was an instance that occurred this week.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUBBA-STARLING-MINT-BOWMAN-CHROME-ROOKIE-AUTO-RC-2011-ON-CARD-AUTOGRAPH-ROYALS-/290702292761?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43af34f719

Edit: My auction for the same identical card is bid up to $19 with just over a day left, while yours has 5 days left.

I'm not really sure what kind of explanation you are looking for. To honestly answer your question I would say I do not know why. It's possible we have a bigger following than you so we get more bids, I don't know. Is their something suspicious about the bidding on this item? I don't see anything, it doesn't look like any of the bidders are regular customers.

 

[nyc3]

http://www.traderretreat.com/forum/...s/103735-beware-these-shady-ebay-sellers.html

 

[hoopster3977]

Originally Posted by hoopster3977
Terry, I would like to ask you this:

How come you have an identical card for auction as I do, I have one bid of $.99 running the auction for 7 days. You have your identical item on a 10 day auction with 8 days left and your item has been bid up to $44?

This was an instance that occurred this week.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUBBA-STARLING-MINT-BOWMAN-CHROME-ROOKIE-AUTO-RC-2011-ON-CARD-AUTOGRAPH-ROYALS-/290702292761?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43af34f719

Edit: My auction for the same identical card is bid up to $19 with just over a day left, while yours has 5 days left.

I'm not really sure what kind of explanation you are looking for. To honestly answer your question I would say I do not know why. It's possible we have a bigger following than you so we get more bids, I don't know. Is their something suspicious about the bidding on this item? I don't see anything, it doesn't look like any of the bidders are regular customers

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My account has a rating of a "Powerseller, and Highest Rated Seller" for over 2 consective years. Per Ebay, my auctions should have a higher visibility search than yours. Why would anyone bid on a 10 day auction with higher amounts than an auction with less time to go? I have numerous return customers also. Your auctions just don't seem vaild.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Terry, I would like to ask you this:

How come you have an identical card for auction as I do, I have one bid of $.99 running the auction for 7 days. You have your identical item on a 10 day auction with 8 days left and your item has been bid up to $44?

This was an instance that occurred this week.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BUBBA-STARLING-MINT-BOWMAN-CHROME-ROOKIE-AUTO-RC-2011-ON-CARD-AUTOGRAPH-ROYALS-/290702292761?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item43af34f719

Edit: My auction for the same identical card is bid up to $19 with just over a day left, while yours has 5 days left.

Not trying to sound like an advocate, but none of the top bidders for this card have a high % of bid history with Boyd's though.

 

[bigboydsportscards3]

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My account has a rating of a "Powerseller, and Highest Rated Seller" for over 2 consective years. Per Ebay, my auctions should have a higher visibility search than yours. Why would anyone bid on a 10 day auction with higher amounts than an auction with less time to go? I have numerous return customers also. Your auctions just don't seem vaild.

You do realize we run on average more auctions per day than you do in an entire year? So we have people constantly check our items daily. I'm not trying to create an argument, just trying to state the facts. I believe your reasoning is flawed, there is nothing suspicious about that item. I don't think you understand the massive operation and time it would take to run thousands of non "valid" ebay auctions per week. I don't even follow what items are selling for while they are running. We barely have time to buy, list, and sell the items. I don't really pay attention to them while they are running.

 

[bigboydsportscards3]

http://www.traderretreat.com/forum/...s/103735-beware-these-shady-ebay-sellers.html

This post is a complete lie. I had no affiliation whatsoever with wolverine24 while that name was active. I've already made my statement on shill bidding and it's validity. Obviously all the items quoted are old, but I don't believe any of them were sold by us. I'm pretty sure this was the time period when Burge was putting all the fake autos out in circulation so there was more of an abundance in the marketplace back then. Made it very difficult to be sure of authenticity on some items when buying.

 

[jflan702]

I have purchased a number of cards from BB. Never any problems on the ones that I bid on. In fact, I just received one that I had expected to finish at 2 to 3 times what I got it for. I haven't seen a copy of this card on the bay since the set was released. I think that I got a good deal. I will buy from BB again.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I think I know what could POSSIBLY be going on here. They may not be shill-bidding their OWN items (ie placing the bids themselves), but they certainly can have people/friends bid on their stuff for them. How easy would it be to have someone you know open a buying account and bid on the stuff you ask them to bid on (the 97% bidder). eBay would have no way of knowing, as the bidder could be anywhere in the world and have no connection whatsoever to the seller. This guy only needs a couple people/friends to do this and he can claim no shill bidding is going on because no one could ever prove it, unless the person doing the bidding came out and admitted it. It's an easy scam to accomplish and eBay and the public would be none the wiser.

 

[katieneack]

Terry, I have bought a lot of items from you in the past without a problem. Maybe your explanation on shill bidding is valid. But I have to say, those listings you have on those Pujols cards (Mentioned above) are ridiculous. No one would list those cards that way unless you are trying to mislead people. I believe that cards books for under $10 and people are paying $50+ thinking they are rookies. Those types of things make these other accusations seem more valid.

 

[metallicalex777]

Found this via google search...not the greatest proof, but some resonating statements made a couple years ago. Sorry for the lack of color in text: http://sportscardsuncensored.blogspot.com/2010/01/is-wolverine24-back-on-ebay-already.html

There is a thread going on FCB about bigboydsportscards, saying that the auctions this seller are running are very close and/or identical to those of banned seller Wolverine24. These two names are stationed very close together per the thread, and the wording used in the item description is very similar.

Please check out this thread, which is trying to unearth the connection. Worst comes to worse, bigboydsportscards was one of the shill bidding accounts that Wolverine24 used on a regular basis to get to those astronomical values his cards usually sold for.


As I have said before, Scammers will do whatever it takes to get back to do scamming. Looks like Wolverine24 has done so.



POSTED BY GELLMAN AT 6:54 AM
LABELS: FAKE AUTOS, FAKE CARDS, FAKERS ARE DUMB PEOPLE



3 COMMENTS:

1. 
   PatsCardsJan 22, 2010 08:39 AM
   Thanks again for the heads up.Reply​
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   mcag10Jan 23, 2010 02:33 PM
   Also check out the seller Footballcardjunky76. His stuff looks fake and his auction descriptions are in the same gray format and text that I remember Wolverine using. Thanks for the info.Reply​
3. 
   agermanlibraFeb 28, 2010 03:47 PM
   As someone who used to be closely involved with Wolverine24 (then I got smart), I can guarantee you that bigboydsportscards is the same company as Wolverine 24. Please beware of this seller and this company!​

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[bigboydsportscards3]

Found this via google search...not the greatest proof, but some resonating statements made a couple years ago. Sorry for the lack of color in text:http://sportscardsuncensored.blogspot.com/2010/01/is-wolverine24-back-on-ebay-already.html

There is a thread going on FCB about bigboydsportscards, saying that the auctions this seller are running are very close and/or identical to those of banned seller Wolverine24. These two names are stationed very close together per the thread, and the wording used in the item description is very similar.

Please check out this thread, which is trying to unearth the connection. Worst comes to worse, bigboydsportscards was one of the shill bidding accounts that Wolverine24 used on a regular basis to get to those astronomical values his cards usually sold for.


As I have said before, Scammers will do whatever it takes to get back to do scamming. Looks like Wolverine24 has done so.

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Another accusation that is just not true. Our ebay ID was never used to shill bid any item on any name. We did purchase some items from Wolverine24 when the name was active as we buy stuff from everyone on ebay. We buy thousands of items and spend hundreds of thousands on ebay per year, so our name is bound to show up for bidding history on everyone. As far as the same items being sold, well like I said we have purchased a lot of items from him especially since he no longer has an ebay name. BTW, we no longer use the selling ID bigboydsportscards, we moved all our selling over to our main ID bigboydsporscards3 over a year ago. The bigboydsportscards ID was used to sell items we had lots of quantity of so we could easily re-list items and we also sold some consignment items under that name. We concluded it was better to just use one ebay ID and we stopped consignments so we now only use the one ebay ID for selling.