What CAN'T Bryce Harper do

[RL24]

Beat me to it, Eric.

Even if you consider his words/posts on here as "trolling", offensive, inconsiderate, or whatever else, his generosity can not be disputed.

At least you do acknowledge that he is also quite generous when doling out insults and belittling comments.

Although Will, I have to hand it to you, the posts of yours I have read lately seem more positive and constructive. I'm not saying you didn't sneak some past me, but... keep up the good work!

 

[Sjrmn91]

At least you do acknowledge that he is also quite generous when doling out insults and belittling comments.

Although Will, I have to hand it to you, the posts of yours I have read lately seem more positive and constructive. I'm not saying you didn't sneak some past me, but... keep up the good work!

I had to use the word "you" in that post because the crap he says typically makes me laugh pretty hard.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

There is a huge difference in saying you believe the market for a particular player or niche in the hobby is inflated and saying that you hope and want it to deflate. Why on earth would any good salesperson/businessperson hope and actively root for what they make a living on to depreciate in value.

Seems apparent that someone who doesn't care about short-term value would.

Certainly investors would leave a market that has collapsed, a hobby over-saturated with short-term investors would clearly benefit from short-term investors leaving, especially in the long-term.

 

[csmtampa]

Good god there are a bunch of idiots on this forum. LOL

 

[sportscardtheory]

Seems apparent that someone who doesn't care about short-term value would.

Certainly investors would leave a market that has collapsed, a hobby over-saturated with short-term investors would clearly benefit from short-term investors leaving, especially in the long-term.

Your buyers lose money, they will have less to spend with you in the future or might not spend again at all. Everybody loses. I would not root for my buyers to lose money on what they bought from me because it's senseless and could potentially hurt my future sales as well. It seems like common sense to me.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Your buyers lose money, they will have less to spend with you in the future or might not spend again at all. Everybody loses. I would not root for my buyers to lose money on what they bought from me because it's senseless and could potentially hurt my future sales as well. It seems like common sense to me.

You're not reading what I posted, or maybe econ isn't your thing.

 

[sportscardtheory]

You're not reading what I posted, or maybe econ isn't your thing.

Not everyone who buys a trading card is an investor. When COLLECTORS lose money, they could stop collecting and spending into the system. I don't see how that could ever be a good thing for sellers. The less money there is in the hobby, the less everyone will be able to make. This isn't Wall Street. People buy things to keep, and if what they are buying loses value, that's not a positive. You don't ever want buyers out of the market.

 

[G $MONEY$]

i also want harper to fail, but its more about seeing stupid people paying 5 figures for baseball cards
getting screwed over. the difference between a hall off famer and an out of baseball scrubb is as simple as 5 hits per 100
at bats over an entire season, 25 hits a year, thats it. so why would a harper card demand up to
10-20K? is he going to be a 400 career hitter? hit 800 home runs? pretty good chance he will fall somewhere between
the 0-5 hits per 100 at bats, which means people buying at those prices and driving case prices and pack ripping
up are f**king morons, and i love to see those people get screwed.

Its bad for the Hobby when a big prospect like Harper fails. Since you make your living off of the hobby im surprised you want him to fail.

 

[miguelcabrera]

Says the guy with the username - miguelcabrera

or the guy with the username miguelcabrera, whose favorite player became miggy after he beat the suckees in 03 and has become slightly less of a favorite as he has become one of the best in the game over the past few years although still my favorite. but nice try

 

[scotty216brs]

I think I have you beat in that department.

Jealousy gets you nowhere..

 

[RL24]

Good god there are a bunch of idiots on this forum. LOL

Yeah... but... what are you referring to in this particular thread?


One thing that everybody should keep in mind... boomo is just some guy. Just because he hopes Harper will fail, does not mean Harper will fail. It will not affect Harper in any way, nor will it have any effect on the people who invested in Harper. I know this all seems rather self evident, but from the way everybody is roasting boomo... I thought maybe somebody should explain it.

Although I do agree it is counterintuitive to hope that your customers lose money on items they purchased from you.

I had to use the word "you" in that post because the crap he says typically makes me laugh pretty hard.

I thought you were using the general "you" to refer to the board as a whole. He's a lot like Eastbound and Down... sometimes funny, but most of the time just immature. And almost always mean. Never really to me or anything... I just sometimes think FCB should be nicer to one another...

 

[archiebunkerjr]

Interesting thread. I would like to steer the thread back toward its subject - What can't Harper do. Last night was my first time I saw him besides his first hit. I missed the steal of home. But did you guys see him stretch that blooper just over the shortstop's glove into a double? WOW!!! I've never seen that in the majors before. He tucked his head down immediately out of the box and he got to second base easy. What's not to like about a play like that? I wish I could find that video online so I can show my 8 year old son why he needs to run out of the batter's box instead of watching the ball.

I don't understand where all the hate is coming from. I'm looking forward to watching him play for years to come.

 

[boomo]

" Ok, youve convinced me, give me my dollar back "

 

[jbhofmann]

or the guy with the username miguelcabrera, whose favorite player became miggy after he beat the suckees in 03 and has become slightly less of a favorite as he has become one of the best in the game over the past few years although still my favorite. but nice try

You mean the same Miguel Cabrera that hit .167 in that same World Series and had 1 run with 7Ks? That Miguel Cabrera?

 

[jbrown]

Good god there are a bunch of idiots on this forum. LOL

^This

 

[dp33]

What impressed you about Trout last year? I didn't see him play at all last year so it's an honest question. His stats seemed pretty sub-par.

Sorry - should I have clarified I meant "in the minor leagues". Don't see a lot of Angels games here in the midwest, but Trout has not been too impressive yet in the major leagues.

Except Harper had higher wOBA, SLG, OBP, wRC+ and a lower K% in his minor league career than Stubbs in 2010. But yes, clearly the same even though their skills sets are entirely different. Comparing him the Pagan? lololol

That is not "equivalent."

Is the 2007-version of Corey Hart "equivalent" enough for you?

wOBA - .380
SLG - .539
OBP - .353
wRC+ - 128
K% - 17.5%

whee, I can look up stats on FanGraphs too...

 

[Hallsgator]

Sorry - should I have clarified I meant "in the minor leagues". Don't see a lot of Angels games here in the midwest, but Trout has not been too impressive yet in the major leagues.



Is the 2007-version of Corey Hart "equivalent" enough for you?

wOBA - .380
SLG - .539
OBP - .353
wRC+ - 128
K% - 17.5%

whee, I can look up stats on FanGraphs too...

Yes, because that is clearly Harper's ceiling, the numbers he put up as a teenager in the minors. Please, go on.

 

[Hallsgator]

People rely wayyyyy too much on MiLB numbers. Jo Jo Reyes threw a three hitter last night, he isn't gonna come up and be ace. Brandon Wood crushed the minors and sucked in the Majors. John Smoltz struggled before being traded to the Braves, turned into an ace.

You can try all you want, but minor league numbers just aren't that good of a predictor. There's a lot more that goes into player evaluation and development than numbers and that's something a lot fans forget with all this access to numbers.

 

[flagshipchromecollector]

People rely wayyyyy too much on MiLB numbers. Jo Jo Reyes threw a three hitter last night, he isn't gonna come up and be ace. Brandon Wood crushed the minors and sucked in the Majors. John Smoltz struggled before being traded to the Braves, turned into an ace.

You can try all you want, but minor league numbers just aren't that good of a predictor. There's a lot more that goes into player evaluation and development than numbers and that's something a lot fans forget with all this access to numbers.

It's akin to predicting how good of a football player a guy will be based on his college stats.

 

[dp33]

Except Harper had higher wOBA, SLG, OBP, wRC+ and a lower K% in his minor league career than Stubbs in 2010. But yes, clearly the same even though their skills sets are entirely different. Comparing him the Pagan? lololol

That is not "equivalent."

Yes, because that is clearly Harper's ceiling, the numbers he put up as a teenager in the minors. Please, go on.

Nowhere did I ever state or imply that was his ceiling. I am well aware that he was only 18 and the average pitcher was 24 and his stats at AA were pretty much those of the average hitter (also age 24), and blah blah blah. I was simply responding to the assertion that Harper "crushed others" in the minors last year. If you agree and think that Corey Hart "crushed others" in 2007, that's fine with me. But since it just seems like you're trying to start internets wars, you'll have to find someone else to battle.