THE GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL-TIME TEAM - by position - Centerfield

[scotty216brs]

Ron, that is not a knock on Mays at all. Hell, I would be honored to bat behind Williams, Gehrig, and Ruth! You know those guys are going to get on base so Mays would be the guy to drive them in.

 

[ronfromfresno]

I see it differently, but that's the greatness of the baseball.

Wagner
Hornsby
Mays
Ruth
Williams
Gehrig
Schmidt
Bench
Pitcher

Mays had too much speed to be put behind Ruth, Williams and Gehrig....they'd clog the bases eliminating Mays speed, plus Mays had the same or better power potential than both Williams and Gehrig, with each needing over 140 hr to reach Mays' total.

 

[homerun28aa]

I mentioned earlier that I voted for Cobb and like I said this is the only thread I didn't vote for anyone else because 2nd place was just too close. After reading this thread I'm glad some people agreed with me and on the other hand, I do agree with sportscardstheorys comment about Cobb not winning a world series. However, when you look at teams like the Athletics who were absolutely stacked with pitching and hitting, the Red Sox who were pretty stacked as well, then you had the cubs with Evers Tinker and Chance. So although Cobb made three consecutive appearances without winning one, I think on pure talent and ability he should be regarded as the best CF of all time.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I mentioned earlier that I voted for Cobb and like I said this is the only thread I didn't vote for anyone else because 2nd place was just too close. After reading this thread I'm glad some people agreed with me and on the other hand, I do agree with sportscardstheorys comment about Cobb not winning a world series. However, when you look at teams like the Athletics who were absolutely stacked with pitching and hitting, the Red Sox who were pretty stacked as well, then you had the cubs with Evers Tinker and Chance. So although Cobb made three consecutive appearances without winning one, I think on pure talent and ability he should be regarded as the best CF of all time.

Doesn't really matter, but I think someone else mentioned that.

I voted Cobb and Mays.

 

[jbhofmann]

I mentioned earlier that I voted for Cobb and like I said this is the only thread I didn't vote for anyone else because 2nd place was just too close. After reading this thread I'm glad some people agreed with me and on the other hand, I do agree with sportscardstheorys comment about Cobb not winning a world series. However, when you look at teams like the Athletics who were absolutely stacked with pitching and hitting, the Red Sox who were pretty stacked as well, then you had the cubs with Evers Tinker and Chance. So although Cobb made three consecutive appearances without winning one, I think on pure talent and ability he should be regarded as the best CF of all time.

My feelings on deadball....

Would you vote George Mikan as the greatest Center of all time?

 

[homerun28aa]

My feelings on deadball....

Would you vote George Mikan as the greatest Center of all time?

That's different IMO, although some would agree it's the same thing. Personally, I can't compare Chamberlain when it comes to an all-time greats argument because no one at the time was nearly as tall or strong as him whereas today many are. I'm not sure how he would have matched up against someone like Shaq or Dwight Howard physically. However with baseball, I think hitters can at least somewhat be compared, with pitchers it's hard since they pitched on was less rest. Cobb's numbers were like no one elses at the time for the stretch that he played. I think if he was a good guy and not a ****** he would be higher regarded today than he already is.

Another thing is, when I look at this list I see a lot of similar players like Mantle, Mays, Dimaggio, even Griffey was the same type of player as those guys. I think when you want a team of greatest players all-time they have to be unique, can't just be HR power hitters

 

[jbhofmann]

It all comes down to this for me:

If Cobb played today, would he be seen as an All-Time great? I just don't think so.

 

[elmalo]

That's different IMO, although some would agree it's the same thing. Personally, I can't compare Chamberlain when it comes to an all-time greats argument because no one at the time was nearly as tall or strong as him whereas today many are. I'm not sure how he would have matched up against someone like Shaq or Dwight Howard physically. However with baseball, I think hitters can at least somewhat be compared, with pitchers it's hard since they pitched on was less rest. Cobb's numbers were like no one elses at the time for the stretch that he played. I think if he was a good guy and not a ****** he would be higher regarded today than he already is.

Another thing is, when I look at this list I see a lot of similar players like Mantle, Mays, Dimaggio, even Griffey was the same type of player as those guys. I think when you want a team of greatest players all-time they have to be unique, can't just be HR power hitters

There were guys in Cobbs era with similar numbers, Wagner, Speaker, Hornsby, Lajoie, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Eddie Collins, Ruth, etc.

 

[RL24]

Lets assemble the greatest team ever

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? How the hell did Cobb NOT win this poll? Better yet, how does MANTLE have more votes than Cobb? Ugh, facepalms all around.


If I was making an all time team, it would be CENTERED around Tyrus Raymond Cobb. Hands down.

You would? I think that's a bad move. To ask the question you asked earlier...

I'm curious as to the rest of your lineup....

I hope your team doesn't have any black people on it!

If I am building a team of all time greats, I wouldn't even ask Lofton to be the team's bat boy.

Right? Because Ty Cobb would probably quit your team if you had a black bat boy.

We're building a team here. We want good people like the Mick who will bring beer to the game, we don't want racist ******** on our team. I voted for Mays and DiMaggio. I just didn't like how few votes he had. He's in that awesome song and everything....


About the Lofton thing, while I do think it's funny he got 3 votes, I don't think it's very important who is in the 9th spot in these polls. Only the top few really have a chance of winning. If Duke Snider was up there, and he got Kenny's 3 votes... what would that change?

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

 

[elmalo]

You would? I think that's a bad move. To ask the question you asked earlier...




I hope your team doesn't have any black people on it!




Right? Because Ty Cobb would probably quit your team if you had a black bat boy.

We're building a team here. We want good people like the Mick who will bring beer to the game, we don't want racist ******** on our team. I voted for Mays and DiMaggio. I just didn't like how few votes he had. He's in that awesome song and everything....


About the Lofton thing, while I do think it's funny he got 3 votes, I don't think it's very important who is in the 9th spot in these polls. Only the top few really have a chance of winning. If Duke Snider was up there, and he got Kenny's 3 votes... what would that change?

Well, that shows how little you know about Ty Cobb, bc Cobb had a black bat boy as his personal bat boy and Ty Cobb took care of after his playing career was over.

 

[homerun28aa]

There were guys in Cobbs era with similar numbers, Wagner, Speaker, Hornsby, Lajoie, Shoeless Joe Jackson, Eddie Collins, Ruth, etc.

Lajoie, Wagner, Collins, guys like that put up similar numbers for some seasons but career wise I think Cobb's is almost unanimously better. I don't think a single person agrees that any of those guys were overall better than him. As for Ruth, the prime of his career was certainly after the prime of Cobb's career