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Bringing Back Old Favorites
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- #22
- Aug 7, 2008
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Thzt would be awesome.
To the other point I would like to see tek too, not so sure about pristine that just seems like refractor overload like finest.
ThoseBackPages
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bring back the XXXXing gum!
schmidtfan20
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- Aug 24, 2008
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yeah you do have to wonder why topps hasn't done a tribute back to 93 finest. I would love to see a silver sticker pasted on the front an Angel Pagan
refractor card!
refractor card!
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- #27
- Aug 7, 2008
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Lol that is well played....
ThoseBackPages
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next year would make sense
BowmanChromeAddict
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Can someone please explain this to me? How does an insert card /150 from a brand new product with no autograph sell for over $3000? I don't understand.
alexs64
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According to some, people love to collect players in the college(scratch that) high school jerseys!
Exactly right. This is the biggest no-brainer of all time.
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- #33
- Aug 7, 2008
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Two things:
1. you really can't compare basketball card sales prices to other sports, they have literally no ceiling.
2. One thing you can compare is brand recognition and precious metal gems are the mother of them all...see here [phil]130729134558[/phil]
uniquebaseballcards
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- Nov 12, 2008
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Although I generally agree, this Jordan card never sold - actually the seller continues to put it up but whomever winds up winning it never pays!
I with you Jim, I just dont see how these can ever hold value. Its just not the same of the originals.
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Even if it sells for half that, it makes my point.
Joe - although I agree to an extent on the retreads of the old inserts - there is so much demand for rare stuff of guys like Jordan (as evidenced by ludicrous '90s insert prices) that they'll have to do a whole lot of reprinting for values to really decline I think.
JoshHamilton
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- Aug 7, 2008
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Not every card needs an autograph or a 10 color patch to be valuable. Oh, and blues are /50, not /150
As Phil said, nostalgia. PMG's are THE premier 90's basketball insert line, and basketball collectors are insane.
http://www.freedomcardboard.com/for...-Leaf-PMetal-Gems-sells-for-41-000-in-Auction
$41k. Confirmed sale.
If Panini ever got their license back and put out another Crusade set that mimicked the original in terms of design and and p/r, you better bet your ass they'd sell for a TON. A red Crusade would outsell a BC orange refractor by a margin of 10/1, if not more.
Additionally, UD brought back the 97-98 style Jambalayas in 2003-4 and 2006-07. They still sell for a ton (MJ is a $1000+ card) and have held their value and increased over the years. Same with the 2008-09 Skybox PMG'S. Those continue to sell well, despite being released a decade later than the originals.
Never underestimate nostalgia.
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- Aug 7, 2008
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I get the perceived rarity part of it, they were a part of a much larger print run back in the day and thus much harder to pull but 50 cards is 50 cards and simple economics still wins the day.
The total # of PMGs available out of this product would be 210 (blue, red, green) and the number desiring to purchase is immense (it's not perhaps as big as the 90s). However, the number of potential buyers only matters when you stratify those buyers across what their max bids would be. I.e. 10,000 buyers at $50 each doesn't matter but 1,000 buyers at $1000 each matters a whole lot. My guess would be that there are less total buyers out there than in the '90s with the originals but many more buyers on the high end (nostalgia factor in play here). So of course what happens is the card price climbs until the potential suitors drop to be equivalent to the number of cards on the market place and thus the price point is determined.
The perceived rarity is going to come into play simply within the variable of what any given bidders high bid is. If they think there will be an opportunity to attain these easily in the future, they decreased bid, if they think these are going to dry up and they'll never see them again, the bid increases.
