Aitx (BG Co.) listed fake Harper autograph

[Bob Loblaw]

Guys... I was notified by eBay that this item was removed. Now that I have seen it with my own eyes, I agree the card sucks..


I buy MASSIVE amounts of cards on the market.. When we submit to Beckett, they return any rookies that do not make minimum grade (on chrome, that's 9)..

We then sell these on eBay as they do not to our products' parameters...

We bought this card as it presently sits.. We never saw the previous incarnation.. Do you really think I would waste time and get ripped off on person buying a $200 card?

The card is being destroyed (ill post a picture of the torn card today)...

Now, with that being said, I am thoroughly disgusted by the title of this thread. It is libelous, defamatory and basically a total dick move to post that I am faking autographs.

I know many advanced collectors who have bought and resold cards within issues without knowing... Should we call all of those guys fakers when they were in fact victims.

Bottom line, I am disappointed we bought a bad card and I am more disappointed we missed that the autograph issue when it was returned.

I am most disappointed at the "lynch mob" and irresponsible attacks on my honesty.

I merely ask that people use some intelligence not make false statements without checking out the facts first. Harm can be done by this sort of bull and there can be serious consequences for this sort of irresponsible attack.

BG

Gotta love the threats of litigation. Every single time, threats of litigation. Biting the hand that feeds you, and causing fear to speak negatively in an open forum.

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[Bob Loblaw]

If you dont come on here after I prove it to you, I will charge you with being a weasel.
BG

I suspect those won't stick.....

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I don't even fill out submission forms..

I hand them boxes with 1000-3000 cards..

I don't even have a detailed list of what I give them!

Yes, I bought this stupid card and it was submitted... I didnt catch signature issue (damn, no longer perfect) ...,It didn't make 9, so we sold it..my guys probably didn't read white slip to see why it didn't make..

Consider your question answered.
BG

Was this the same employee who sent the Leaf Purple cards to the "retailer"?

Just curious.

 

[allstars]

If you dont come on here after I prove it to you, I will charge you with being a weasel.
BG

I'll not only come here Brian, I'll come here & apologize. I may be alot of things BG, but I'm no weasel.

Show the proof.

 

[Jaypers]

Dont waste your breath, but remember the blind hatred is worse than the blind followers because they say so. You are wrong they are right every time.

I guess this means everyone is blind, then. No middle ground whatsoever.

 

[matchpenalty]

So basically, Brian is right... You were just shooting your big mouth off. Stir up trouble as best you can and the back down when you get called out. You might be better served by standing in front of the white house with big signs and a megaphone. This from someone who has never bought a Leaf or Razor product in his life. Just so tired of all the stupid bash Brian Grey threads. Jesus, I mean seriously, there doesn't seem like a harder working guy in the industry! Brian, props from me for working your tail off and sorry to hear you have to deal with this sort of ridiculousness.

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Well said Bill. Leaf is offering a nice variety and unique products to the hobby. Nobody is making anyone buy them. But man some people here just want nothing more than to see them fail. Any little mistake made by them is some grand conspiracy to doom the card world. You would think BG is some guy on FBI most wanted list. Just small guy fighting to make it in card world going against companies 10X his size and fairing very well.

 

[cmnkb8]

BTW, is that Leaf Metal BB announcement still happening today?

 

[matchpenalty]

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As you can see, I have done what previous scumbag sellers should have done the first time this card changed hands after its renovation.
Ive said all that needs to be said.
BG

Props for doing this.

 

[allstars]

I'll not only come here Brian, I'll come here & apologize. I may be alot of things BG, but I'm no weasel.

Show the proof.

I'm a full time dealer that cares about the hobby. I've never screwed a single customer in 22 years of business. I despise unlicensed cards, scammers, & those that threaten my industry in any way. I hate seeing collectors getting screwed. I'm also a BGS Grading Dealer. And I ain't scared of you BG.

 

[hofmichael]

Gilmo needs to find out who started this thread with original title. Has to be someone using a second id? is that legal on FCB for someone to have two id's? Do some ip address research. Find out if it is someone using a second id because they didn't have the balls to do it with real id.

Why?What does it matter who started it?It was a legit concern and it has been addressed.

 

[Leaf]

Was this the same employee who sent the Leaf Purple cards to the "retailer"?

Just curious.

Do you really want to start up again?
Your word is worthless obviously.
Go chase an ambulance.
BG

 

[Jaypers]

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As you can see, I have done what previous scumbag sellers should have done the first time this card changed hands after its renovation.
Ive said all that needs to be said.
BG

But you forgot to provide video of you destroying the card! Unacceptable! That could be any card....we want proof!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Do you really want to start up again?
Your word is worthless obviously.
BG

I was curious.

Was it?

 

[Leaf]

I'll not only come here Brian, I'll come here & apologize. I may be alot of things BG, but I'm no weasel.

Show the proof.

I sent you a PM, please send me your email address and Joe Clemeons form Beckett will send you a letter to this effect.
BG

 

[Leaf]

BTW, is that Leaf Metal BB announcement still happening today?

yes

 

[sneekc]

I don't gamble Brian, and it's not my arse on the line here. Just show us the proof & your arse will be off the hook. Not by email Brian, in public, right here.

That's the biggest ***** move I've seen on FCB in a long time. "I dont gamble"....wow.
You've got a lot of talk but nothing to back it up. You're so damn sure of your stance until it comes to actually putting up something real for it.

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[matchpenalty]

Why?What does it matter who started it?It was a legit concern and it has been addressed.

Is it ok then to have two screen names on FCB? one you can go around making slanderous titles and slamming people. Then just go away quietly and no one knows who it was. Gilmore I'm sure has a lot more respect for the site than allowing people to have multiple id's to use. I'm sure I'm not only one who wants to know who started this thread with the original title. I'd guess 99% chance it is someone using a second id. Who comes and makes first post on here slamming BG and Leaf out of the blue.

 

[jbhofmann]

I don't gamble. I own and sell sportscards.

Ironic.

 

[A_Pharis]

Double or nothing BG - I'm looking for proof BGS ever had the card, will Jeromy or Joe confirm that? I'm betting you won't provide such proof...yes, please have them email me.

Can we please have this enforced? He just put up $2000 against BG. If BG agrees, I say we get this done formally.

 

[hoopster3977]

I don't even fill out submission forms..
I hand them boxes with 1000-3000 cards..

I don't even have a detailed list of what I give them!

Yes, I bought this stupid card and it was submitted... I didnt catch signature issue (damn, no longer perfect) ...,It didn't make 9, so we sold it..my guys probably didn't read white slip to see why it didn't make..

Consider your question answered.
BG

Brian, I have stood next to you at the Beckett booth at the National and saw you filling out submission forms.