This Leaf Pujols Jersey sold WAY too cheap.

[RITM]

A /25 patch has sold for $260.99 and two cards /99 with patches have sold for $241.49 and $198.52. I still say the seller of the /5 did well. Of course we could argue whether the earlier sale of the /5 is determining price on the cards with the higher print runs.

 

[markakis8]

The fact that there is no Scarlett Johansson in this thread is vastly disappointing. Enter E.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

The fact that there is no Scarlett Johansson in this thread is vastly disappointing. Enter E.

oh how i want to do bad things to her

 

[markakis8]

oh how i want to do bad things to her

That's not what I'm looking for!!!

 

[rockholt]

Given the discussion in this thread, what's mine going to sell for when I post it to eBay tomorrow?

Red 2/2

 

[cgilmo]

Given the discussion in this thread, what's mine going to sell for when I post it to eBay tomorrow?

Red 2/2

Eleventy

 

[jrinne]

If I'm a shop owner I could care less if the product is licensed or not. Will it move off my shelf and how fast. At $80 a pop and all of them are autographs I'm going to guess it doesn't sit long. That was my experience when we had a shop in town. Some people have money to burn and all they want to do is rip something no matter what it is.

 

[hofmichael]

At my LCS the prospect products for football and baseball sit on the shelf untouched for the most part.The Leaf cut products,Best of's and mini helmets move quite well there though.

 

[Mario1975]

Just because someone doesn't carry a certain product but is still in business doesn't mean that they are not hurting themselves or they couldn't be doing better. I also think as a shop owner my main focus would be on giving my customers what they want and giving them as many choices I can. I mean I know my shop owner can't stand Panini but he still carries their products, including the unlicensed ones. I just think allstars decision not to carry leaf is based on his own personal feelings and I'm not sure if that's a smart business decision. It's his right and he still can be successful but it doesn't mean he couldn't be doing even better or his customers happier.

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[hofmichael]

Just because someone doesn't carry a certain product but is still in business doesn't mean that they are not hurting themselves or they couldn't be doing better. I also think as a shop owner my main focus would be on giving my customers what they want and giving them as many choices I can. I mean I know my shop owner can't stand Panini but he still carries their products, including the unlicensed ones. I just think allstars decision not to carry leaf is based on his own personal feelings and I'm not sure if that's a smart business decision. It's his right and he still can be successful but it doesn't mean he couldn't be doing even better or his customers happier.

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Would you still give them as many choices if no one was buying the product?

 

[goldenegg1]

I find it hilarious that some of you know better than someone who has been doing this for over twenty years! He obviously knows what will sell, why carry Leaf if he knows it will sit? Is there really that much to be made off a box of Leaf Draft? I really don't know that answer, I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I doubt it is enough to keep the doors open. I can tell you at our local card shows, Leaf sports products sells well when there is nothing else to open. The Pop Century sells well, but for me the resale value is not there. And I can speak from experience, just recently I purchased 4 History of Baseball Cuts and pulled 2 Aparicios out of 4 packs. I split a couple of Basketball boxes and took a beating, even though we pulled an inscriptions /3, and another /10. I either have horrible luck with Leaf, or it just doesn't sell well. If I want a Cubs prospect auto, I'll wait for BC, that's just me.

 

[Mario1975]

Notjomomma, you really think the blasters that Topps put out are treasure troves? And the point is that unlicensed products by leaf offer collectors an opportunity to collect cards of guys they want at a much more affordable price. I mean how much would you have to spend and how many boxes would you have to open of bowman or draft picks to get the same autos in one box of metal draft? Not to mention how many of those topps cards would come out scratched up, off center, bowed, etc. Leaf offers collectors a very nice product at a very good price. When was the last time you could say that about a Topps product? And that is coming from someone who collects Topps.

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[Mario1975]

Obviously someone is buying Leaf if almost all their products are sold out all the time. I can also speak from experience by saying there have been plenty of times I've gone to the hobby shop looking to buy a particular box that isn't there or sometimes intending to just buy supplies and seeing a box of something else and buying it. I'm not saying he has to carry multiple cases of everything but I don't think having a case of metal draft on hand will hurt, in fact the point is it would likely help to increase sales.

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[allstars]

Had a long day paying bills, making up deposits, ect yesterday only to find out the banks & post offices were closed lol. Colombus Day should not be a holiday where life as we know it stops. If the world was flat he would've fallen off & I would've got my bills paid a day earlier...

Thanks for straightening out the thread guys! I don't mind discussing my business a little here, though I appreciate those that acknowledged that it is indeed my private affair. Card collecting was always my passion. As a child I used to stay up way too late playing with my 77 & 78's lol. In '82 or so it became possible to pull a card worth over $1 from a new pack (you can still get him today in a $30 Walmart blaster, no team logos of course). I loved the cards long before the $1 pull was possible. If you had told me then that my life's career would be buying & selling cards, I'da kicked you in the nutz and called you a liar.

Yes I went through the the Classic & Broder years, as a collector more so than a dealer. My Don Mattingly collection became riddled with them, and at some point I decided to halt acquiring the unlicensed Donnies. I've not been a fan of UCs since then. Could I make a few bucks on them now? Maybe. Enough to get me excited? No way. Do I have customers that would be buying them up? No.

I hated the years when there were 6 licensed companies each pumping out products at will. It was tragic. Now, with the market constricted, and the collector base way smaller, my average collector is way more focused & way more intelligent than in years past. I personally love that.

As I told the guy that ran such a successful small business for a decade that he dropped it like a hot potato when offered a corporate job, you can only give your customers so many choices & your focus should be to keep the bulk of them happy.

There is no regulation in the unlicensed card market, and often the guys that run the companies (nobody in particular) cross what I consider to be ethical lines to survive. Basically they can do as they wish, print what they want, go back on any promises they've made etc without fear of pissing off a "higher power". To a MLB licenses company that licence & protecting it & retaining it are the #1 priority. It's their bread & butter. It's why Topps' products have still (primarily) rocked since getting the exclusive. They still DO have competition, and the licensing agent is always watching to make sure they aren't skimping.

Tiny print runs at tiny companies may sell out. You have to realize that the production of 1 Topps product probably exceeds that of all the tiny company's products together. There's no such thing as a tiny licensed card company. Pacific was as close to that as it gets, and I loved their cards. But that's for another discussion.

My shop does fine without Leaf, Sage (who named that company?), Press Pass, Royal Rookies etc. I think I'll keep doing what I've been doing, I feel good about it.

 

[Brewer Andy]

No it didn't

 

[sportscardtheory]

It's true that people can do what they want with their privately owned businesses. It's also true that decisions they make which affect said businesses can be misguided.

 

[hofmichael]

Had a long day paying bills, making up deposits, ect yesterday only to find out the banks & post offices were closed lol. Colombus Day should not be a holiday where life as we know it stops. If the world was flat he would've fallen off & I would've got my bills paid a day earlier...

Thanks for straightening out the thread guys! I don't mind discussing my business a little here, though I appreciate those that acknowledged that it is indeed my private affair. Card collecting was always my passion. As a child I used to stay up way too late playing with my 77 & 78's lol. In '82 or so it became possible to pull a card worth over $1 from a new pack (you can still get him today in a $30 Walmart blaster, no team logos of course). I loved the cards long before the $1 pull was possible. If you had told me then that my life's career would be buying & selling cards, I'da kicked you in the nutz and called you a liar.

Yes I went through the the Classic & Broder years, as a collector more so than a dealer. My Don Mattingly collection became riddled with them, and at some point I decided to halt acquiring the unlicensed Donnies. I've not been a fan of UCs since then. Could I make a few bucks on them now? Maybe. Enough to get me excited? No way. Do I have customers that would be buying them up? No.

I hated the years when there were 6 licensed companies each pumping out products at will. It was tragic. Now, with the market constricted, and the collector base way smaller, my average collector is way more focused & way more intelligent than in years past. I personally love that.

As I told the guy that ran such a successful small business for a decade that he dropped it like a hot potato when offered a corporate job, you can only give your customers so many choices & your focus should be to keep the bulk of them happy.

There is no regulation in the unlicensed card market, and often the guys that run the companies (nobody in particular) cross what I consider to be ethical lines to survive. Basically they can do as they wish, print what they want, go back on any promises they've made etc without fear of pissing off a "higher power". To a MLB licenses company that licence & protecting it & retaining it are the #1 priority. It's their bread & butter. It's why Topps' products have still (primarily) rocked since getting the exclusive. They still DO have competition, and the licensing agent is always watching to make sure they aren't skimping.

Tiny print runs at tiny companies may sell out. You have to realize that the production of 1 Topps product probably exceeds that of all the tiny company's products together. There's no such thing as a tiny licensed card company. Pacific was as close to that as it gets, and I loved their cards. But that's for another discussion.

My shop does fine without Leaf, Sage (who named that company?), Press Pass, Royal Rookies etc. I think I'll keep doing what I've been doing, I feel good about it.

That was a great response.

 

[cgilmo]

I think it's time to move on and talk about something else.

Everyone has said what they need to say.