BUXTON-- HOLD OR SELL? (CHECK OUT THE HIT)

[joeya2001]

He's no Trout.

Or a bass

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[Pinbreaker]

I see a raw one sold for $760 yesterday..

 

[bmp1971]

He's no Trout.

But he doesn't need to be. He's the next big thing. That is enough.

 

[Dmscards]

Or a bass

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Don't worry I noticed


Gotta keep your head on a swivel out here!

 

[bmp1971]

recent walk-off grand salami by Buxton:

CR Kernels Byron Buxton Walk Off Grand Slam vs. Burlington Bees 5/16/13 - YouTube

Another nice home run off Michael Ynoa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL6ExnC-7Us

 

[moxacaine]

so you decided to hold and pimp?

 

[bmp1971]

so you decided to hold and pimp?

why do you say that, because I posted some cool vids of him mashing?

I don't mind holding the card. It's a beautiful card and with color hits so rare in this product, it makes it even more special.

 

[padremurph]

But he doesn't need to be. He's the next big thing. That is enough.

So were Hosmer and Lawrie. You clearly want to hold so you should but odds are your will maximize any profits by selling now.

 

[olerud363]

Regardless of how you feel Beckett treats their customers, you are leaving a significant amount of cash on the table if you decide not to get this card graded. If I had to make it guess, I would say probably at minimum $200-$300. Do not sell without getting graded. I'm actually submitting some cards next week (taking advantage of the free upgrade for the month, going to do 10 days the 20 day price), if you would like I could submit it for you.

I agree with Syd. Whether you like BGS or not the fact is that 9.5 or 10 grades sell for significantly more than raw. If your looking to maximize profit now, get it graded.

I know very little about prospecting so I can't answer whether you should sell now or wait.

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[bmp1971]

So were Hosmer and Lawrie. You clearly want to hold so you should but odds are your will maximize any profits by selling now.

Some guys do pan out, however, and we need to keep that in mind. Moreover, all it takes is a short hot streak (ala Jackie Bradley Jr this spring) to see prices double (or more) on cards.

The Lawrie-Hosmer 2011 BC mega-inflated prices were due more to the scarcity of the autos than the talent of the players. Everyone with more than a few ethnocentric brain cells knew Lawrie was supremely overrated, and Hosmer was not far behind. When you mix in the SSP factor with the mega-overratedness, you are due for major letdown on card values if investing. I think Hosmer could still develop his hit tool, but card values won't get to where they were when the hype was peaking.

All that said, are you saying Buxton's hype is unsubstantiated and his card values will most likely only fall?

Buxton is hitting 97 mph gas over the fence at A ball and has plus speed and defense. I personally like his swing and style, so I'm leaning towards holding unless an offer makes me happy. The card looks really nice, and I'm still in shock I hit it, not even hitting a single base au, ref au, or blue au, now in four cases worth of boxes.

 

[Jenkinssssss]

gotta love this thread. starts out with ALL CAPS OMG LOOK AT ME then asks for advice then starts the standard BMP arguing with advice givers with his endless drivel that no one will read.

maybe pair the Buxton with the PRISTINE TEHERAN for the ULTIMATE LOT!!!$@##$#%^$^%$.

 

[bmp1971]

gotta love this thread. starts out with ALL CAPS OMG LOOK AT ME then asks for advice then starts the standard BMP arguing with advice givers with his endless drivel that no one will read.

maybe pair the Buxton with the PRISTINE TEHERAN for the ULTIMATE LOT!!!$@##$#%^$^%$.

Trollinssssss, you're not part of the Westboro Baptist Church are you? The hate level is the same, so I have to ask.

 

[padremurph]

Some guys do pan out, however, and we need to keep that in mind. Moreover, all it takes is a short hot streak (ala Jackie Bradley Jr this spring) to see prices double (or more) on cards.

The Lawrie-Hosmer 2011 BC mega-inflated prices were due more to the scarcity of the autos than the talent of the players. Everyone with more than a few ethnocentric brain cells knew Lawrie was supremely overrated, and Hosmer was not far behind. When you mix in the SSP factor with the mega-overratedness, you are due for major letdown on card values if investing. I think Hosmer could still develop his hit tool, but card values won't get to where they were when the hype was peaking.

All that said, are you saying Buxton's hype is unsubstantiated and his card values will most likely only fall?

Buxton is hitting 97 mph gas over the fence at A ball and has plus speed and defense. I personally like his swing and style, so I'm leaning towards holding unless an offer makes me happy. The card looks really nice, and I'm still in shock I hit it, not even hitting a single base au, ref au, or blue au, now in four cases worth of boxes.

All I'm saying is the risk outweighes the reward at this point. What are base Chromes at? $100? Say he keeps it up, they go to maybe $125? $125 for a base chrome is up there with the likes of Stanton and Longoria back in the day. Harvey chromes are at $100 and he's on fire. I don't see Buxton chromes going to $150.

There's risk he gets injured or can't hit a breaking ball in AA. Before you know it, draft will be out and everyone will be chasing those guys. Even if he continues with the same production, money will most likely be on other players as well as Buxton. He could easily get promoted and hit .200 finding autos in the $60-$70 range where someone like Bundy was earlier.

i think the latter is more realistic than the former. Also, I realize you have a gold but its the same idea. If you want to keep it, keep it but I don't think keeping it is the right choice if you're trying to make money. If you enjoy having the card and following Buxton then definitely keep it, it's not always about money.

 

[Waxov]

All I'm saying is the risk outweighes the reward at this point. What are base Chromes at? $100? Say he keeps it up, they go to maybe $125? $125 for a base chrome is up there with the likes of Stanton and Longoria back in the day. Harvey chromes are at $100 and he's on fire. I don't see Buxton chromes going to $150.

There's risk he gets injured or can't hit a breaking ball in AA. Before you know it, draft will be out and everyone will be chasing those guys. Even if he continues with the same production, money will most likely be on other players as well as Buxton. He could easily get promoted and hit .200 finding autos in the $60-$70 range where someone like Bundy was earlier.

i think the latter is more realistic than the former. Also, I realize you have a gold but its the same idea. If you want to keep it, keep it but I don't think keeping it is the right choice if you're trying to make money. If you enjoy having the card and following Buxton then definitely keep it, it's not always about money.

Exactly, sell while he is still very high... all eyes are on him and he just had a nice hot streak a while ago. Last year AB/K was 4/1 this year 3.9ish/1 yet 70 more points of batting average. I wouldn't mess around and just sell.

 

[bmp1971]

All I'm saying is the risk outweighes the reward at this point. What are base Chromes at? $100? Say he keeps it up, they go to maybe $125? $125 for a base chrome is up there with the likes of Stanton and Longoria back in the day. Harvey chromes are at $100 and he's on fire. I don't see Buxton chromes going to $150.

There's risk he gets injured or can't hit a breaking ball in AA. Before you know it, draft will be out and everyone will be chasing those guys. Even if he continues with the same production, money will most likely be on other players as well as Buxton. He could easily get promoted and hit .200 finding autos in the $60-$70 range where someone like Bundy was earlier.

i think the latter is more realistic than the former. Also, I realize you have a gold but its the same idea. If you want to keep it, keep it but I don't think keeping it is the right choice if you're trying to make money. If you enjoy having the card and following Buxton then definitely keep it, it's not always about money.

Points noted.

I get the impression on the forums that most of the guys who have been prospecting for many years have taken enough lumps in this hobby that they are now against taking the gamble that anyone will ultimately become the megastar they hope when the hype-train first comes blowing into town. Therefore, what I'm gathering, is the consensus is just to sell immediately at the first sign of a good sale, rather than hope for anything much later on, because, after all, most guys turn into Hosmers and Lawries, or even Strasburgs. I understand it's a much larger risk to hold the cards like this, but with elite prospects there is also the greatest chance of a higher, and in some cases much higher, return somewhere down the line (when Buxton gets to AAA, for example, or if he should pull a Trout or Harper and get to the Show and tear it up for his first six months up, etc.)

I enjoy the hobby and listening to what reasonable and polite individuals have to say about these things.

Thanks.

Have a nice day.

 

[Crewfan82]

I say sell, the crazy spikes that Trout and Harper saw are honestly once in a lifetime. The hype/prices on Buxton will never be higher. He could end up being a great player or even a superstar, but his superstar status in the card world is now.

 

[bmp1971]

Just sold it. I gave in to the peer pressure!

 

[blanning71]

thank goodness. Now we can close the chapter on this fact filled thread.

 

[cgilmo]

thank goodness. Now we can close the chapter on this fact filled thread.

God yes