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It's got to be this guy:
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How else would he have been able to do all those crazy flips??
 

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Love the hate on Rickey.

He must still be juicing then, because he is in great shape. Not like these other retired players who let their bodies go to crap, so he must be a user. Canseco played with him and never mentioned him in his book as a user, and said he was a physical freak. If he was using, I'm pretty sure his numbers wouldn't have declined as they did in his latter years.

Pretty sure this player coming out isn't going to be an earth shattering name.


I don't know if Rickey used or not but it would be easy to see why people would think that. Peoples bodies don't get to the point of Rickeys or Ron Gants or Gabe Kaplers without a mass enhancing substance like Anadrol, Sustanon, Winstrol, Dianabol
 

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I don't know if Rickey used or not but it would be easy to see why people would think that. Peoples bodies don't get to the point of Rickeys or Ron Gants or Gabe Kaplers without a mass enhancing substance like Anadrol, Sustanon, Winstrol, Dianabol

Not completely true.. Rickey is not "bulky" his is just shreaded and you'd be better with testosterone than the bulking steroids to achieve this. Most lifters I know opt for the things you mentioned to gain large amounts of body mass and then cycle test to bleed out the water they leave behind and help their lean muscle mass. Without making this into a black/white thing black athletes seem to have much better physical genetics especially in the area of lean muscle mass and the darker skin also makes them appear larger and more cut than most white athletes. There's alot to be said about discipline as well.. Hershal Walker was mentioned above and is a perfect example. Type A personality which is literally 1% of all people in the world.
 

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Not completely true.. Rickey is not "bulky" his is just shreaded and you'd be better with testosterone than the bulking steroids to achieve this. Most lifters I know opt for the things you mentioned to gain large amounts of body mass and then cycle test to bleed out the water they leave behind and help their lean muscle mass. Without making this into a black/white thing black athletes seem to have much better physical genetics especially in the area of lean muscle mass and the darker skin also makes them appear larger and more cut than most white athletes. There's alot to be said about discipline as well.. Hershal Walker was mentioned above and is a perfect example. Type A personality which is literally 1% of all people in the world.


I've only used D-Bol and Anadrol so I don't personally have any experience with those but it's not hard to get rid of the water weight caused by these anabolics. If you look at pictures of Rickey, he looks pretty fit, lean yet sculpted while with the A's...however look at the pictures of him in a Padres, Yankees, or Mets uniform and his shoulders look much, much bigger. A man's shoulders don't grow that much when you're in your late 30s or 40's from when you were mid to late 20's without help. I usually look at the shoulders when somebody mentions someone being natural or not....as big as Herschel Walker is/was his shoulders are comparatively small to the rest of his body, Rickey's were huge. That's why I have always pegged him as a user...don't take offense people, that's just my personal opinion.
 

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No, not holy'er than hell and over-rated Cal Ripken!

How is Cal Ripken Jr. "overrated". He is one of the best shortstops in baseball history and broke new ground for offensive production from that position. 3,000+ hits. The record streak. Wasn't a complete a-hole. He's popular and why wouldn't he be.
 

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How is Cal Ripken Jr. "overrated". He is one of the best shortstops in baseball history and broke new ground for offensive production from that position. 3,000+ hits. The record streak. Wasn't a complete a-hole. He's popular and why wouldn't he be.
That's your opinion, and I could give a rat's azz what your think.
 

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[h=1]Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken: Arrogant Boys of Summer[/h]
The most obvious symptom of the trend is the hateful Mr. Ripken. I get to say that because Baltimore’s my team. Three years ago, Mr. Ripken could be proud of a stunning achievement, passing Lou Gehrig at 2,100 and whatever games. He was the greatest thing happening to a strike-stricken game. Now he is the greatest embarrassment to the game, a blue-eyed arrogant symbol of the white athlete’s hard-working ethic who holds himself above other players, can no longer pull a fastball and, as my friend the writer James North says, “has the range of the Tin Woodman before he got oil in his joints.”
Almost every day, you hear broadcasters say that it is Mr. Ripken’s decision whether he sits down or not. Joe Morgan said it during the All-Star game. Excuse me, but this is preposterous. When is it ever an athlete’s decision whether he starts a game? Can anyone imagine such arrogance during the World Cup, with its autocratic coaches and interdependent players? What was Ronaldo without Romario? Hapless.
The nuttiness of the belief that it is Mr. Ripken’s choice is outdone only by the fact that it seems to be factually the case. The 37-year-old really does seem to have more power than manager Ray Miller, even majority owner Peter Angelos (who declined to respond to my faxed request for an interview). The Orioles, who looked great in the All-Star game, are the big mystery losers of 1998. They have the highest payroll in baseball ($74 million) and were supposed to be fighting it out with the Yankees. They’re 30 games out in the loss column, and Mike Flanagan says in The Washington Post that he’s never seen such a “passive-aggressive” clubhouse in all his life.
I’ve never heard of a passive-aggressive baseball team before. But there’s an obvious cause for it. Any workplace where a substandard performer is given a privileged position is poisoned for others. During the stretch run last fall, Baltimore stars Brady Anderson and Rafael Palmeiro were benched just so they could get rest for the playoffs. The game demanded it. But meanwhile, Queen Ripken played on, letting balls go under his glove at third so he could pad a statistic. It was an insult to the game.
When Lou Gehrig ended his streak after eight games in 1939, he recognized that his powers were failing. He had lately finished his first year under .300 in 13 years–batting .295. Mr. Ripken bats .257 and, more importantly, has little run production. The blue eyes go icy when interviewers question him about sitting down.

Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken: Arrogant Boys of Summer | Observer

 

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Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken: Arrogant Boys of Summer

The most obvious symptom of the trend is the hateful Mr. Ripken. I get to say that because Baltimore’s my team. Three years ago, Mr. Ripken could be proud of a stunning achievement, passing Lou Gehrig at 2,100 and whatever games. He was the greatest thing happening to a strike-stricken game. Now he is the greatest embarrassment to the game, a blue-eyed arrogant symbol of the white athlete’s hard-working ethic who holds himself above other players, can no longer pull a fastball and, as my friend the writer James North says, “has the range of the Tin Woodman before he got oil in his joints.”
Almost every day, you hear broadcasters say that it is Mr. Ripken’s decision whether he sits down or not. Joe Morgan said it during the All-Star game. Excuse me, but this is preposterous. When is it ever an athlete’s decision whether he starts a game? Can anyone imagine such arrogance during the World Cup, with its autocratic coaches and interdependent players? What was Ronaldo without Romario? Hapless.
The nuttiness of the belief that it is Mr. Ripken’s choice is outdone only by the fact that it seems to be factually the case. The 37-year-old really does seem to have more power than manager Ray Miller, even majority owner Peter Angelos (who declined to respond to my faxed request for an interview). The Orioles, who looked great in the All-Star game, are the big mystery losers of 1998. They have the highest payroll in baseball ($74 million) and were supposed to be fighting it out with the Yankees. They’re 30 games out in the loss column, and Mike Flanagan says in The Washington Post that he’s never seen such a “passive-aggressive” clubhouse in all his life.
I’ve never heard of a passive-aggressive baseball team before. But there’s an obvious cause for it. Any workplace where a substandard performer is given a privileged position is poisoned for others. During the stretch run last fall, Baltimore stars Brady Anderson and Rafael Palmeiro were benched just so they could get rest for the playoffs. The game demanded it. But meanwhile, Queen Ripken played on, letting balls go under his glove at third so he could pad a statistic. It was an insult to the game.
When Lou Gehrig ended his streak after eight games in 1939, he recognized that his powers were failing. He had lately finished his first year under .300 in 13 years–batting .295. Mr. Ripken bats .257 and, more importantly, has little run production. The blue eyes go icy when interviewers question him about sitting down.

Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken: Arrogant Boys of Summer | Observer


What the hell is this guy talking about? Who were they going to turn to? Jeff Reboulet?
Baltimore Orioles Leaderboards » 1998 » Third Basemen » Dashboard | FanGraphs Baseball
 

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Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken: Arrogant Boys of Summer

The most obvious symptom of the trend is the hateful Mr. Ripken. I get to say that because Baltimore’s my team. Three years ago, Mr. Ripken could be proud of a stunning achievement, passing Lou Gehrig at 2,100 and whatever games. He was the greatest thing happening to a strike-stricken game. Now he is the greatest embarrassment to the game, a blue-eyed arrogant symbol of the white athlete’s hard-working ethic who holds himself above other players, can no longer pull a fastball and, as my friend the writer James North says, “has the range of the Tin Woodman before he got oil in his joints.”
Almost every day, you hear broadcasters say that it is Mr. Ripken’s decision whether he sits down or not. Joe Morgan said it during the All-Star game. Excuse me, but this is preposterous. When is it ever an athlete’s decision whether he starts a game? Can anyone imagine such arrogance during the World Cup, with its autocratic coaches and interdependent players? What was Ronaldo without Romario? Hapless.
The nuttiness of the belief that it is Mr. Ripken’s choice is outdone only by the fact that it seems to be factually the case. The 37-year-old really does seem to have more power than manager Ray Miller, even majority owner Peter Angelos (who declined to respond to my faxed request for an interview). The Orioles, who looked great in the All-Star game, are the big mystery losers of 1998. They have the highest payroll in baseball ($74 million) and were supposed to be fighting it out with the Yankees. They’re 30 games out in the loss column, and Mike Flanagan says in The Washington Post that he’s never seen such a “passive-aggressive” clubhouse in all his life.
I’ve never heard of a passive-aggressive baseball team before. But there’s an obvious cause for it. Any workplace where a substandard performer is given a privileged position is poisoned for others. During the stretch run last fall, Baltimore stars Brady Anderson and Rafael Palmeiro were benched just so they could get rest for the playoffs. The game demanded it. But meanwhile, Queen Ripken played on, letting balls go under his glove at third so he could pad a statistic. It was an insult to the game.
When Lou Gehrig ended his streak after eight games in 1939, he recognized that his powers were failing. He had lately finished his first year under .300 in 13 years–batting .295. Mr. Ripken bats .257 and, more importantly, has little run production. The blue eyes go icy when interviewers question him about sitting down.

Mark McGwire, Cal Ripken: Arrogant Boys of Summer | Observer


Wow what an awful article. It's just a mean-spirited opinion piece. Garbage.

"Oh no, an all-time great of the game gets treated like an all-time great of the game. FOR SHAME!"

lol
 

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I've only used D-Bol and Anadrol so I don't personally have any experience with those but it's not hard to get rid of the water weight caused by these anabolics. If you look at pictures of Rickey, he looks pretty fit, lean yet sculpted while with the A's...however look at the pictures of him in a Padres, Yankees, or Mets uniform and his shoulders look much, much bigger. A man's shoulders don't grow that much when you're in your late 30s or 40's from when you were mid to late 20's without help. I usually look at the shoulders when somebody mentions someone being natural or not....as big as Herschel Walker is/was his shoulders are comparatively small to the rest of his body, Rickey's were huge. That's why I have always pegged him as a user...don't take offense people, that's just my personal opinion.

Like LeBron. Dudes got cannonball shoulders.
 

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Someone of HOF stature in the game will eventually be outed, but until then, fick off.
 

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